***STRIP CLUB UPDATE***not done...my greed prevails***

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: narzy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Auggie
Strip clubs are one of the most base and classless place a man can walk into.

Sorry to get off-topic. Returning to-topic:

Do you feel bad that you're working for an enterprise that both takes large amounts of money often from men who should be spending that money on other things and exploits women, treating them as sex objects??

thanks for opinion but the sex industry has been around since sex has been around and it has been enjoyed buy most of the most prestigous individuals to ever walk the earth at one point or another.

This club doesnt take money from anybody. We provide a valid service that many people are willing to pay for. Both men and women come to the club. It is not anyones business to tell someone how they should spend there money or when. ITs called personal responsibility. Women are not exploited here. We have girls calling the club all the asking for an audition etc....They are there to make money using something god given (their bodies) we provide safe and comfortable environment for them to do so. no one is being exploited here it is all voluntary. Its not like we are pimping them out and keeping them around through mind control and drugs and abuse. that would be exploitation. We don't treat them as sex objects. They are treated as employees. The fact that they take there shirts off doesnt mean we are allowed to degrade them and treat them poorly. Some clientel may treat them this way but that is something that the girls decided to put up with in exchange for making easy money.

On the flip side, you subject these girls to that abuse you know of the rampant drug use and continue to employ these people, and easily stand by to make an easy buck, you think it's not easy to run a strip joint, cmon, I could turn my garage into a parlor charge the girls I hire 20% of their take and still make a profit. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a strip club, though I have better things to do with my time / money...don't kid yourself, you're no saint.

You are acting like we are pushing drugs on the girls. The majority of the girls don't partake. The ones that do its there business. If they want help and want to get out of living the fast life we will help them. You are forgetting that these girls that do partake had substance abuse issues before they started dancing at the club.

If it is as easy as you think everyone would be doing it.

I don't really care. If a girl wants to strip ... let her. However, I find it interesting that I don't know of another profession where the company knowingly allows a drug addiction in the workplace.

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: narzy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Auggie
Strip clubs are one of the most base and classless place a man can walk into.

Sorry to get off-topic. Returning to-topic:

Do you feel bad that you're working for an enterprise that both takes large amounts of money often from men who should be spending that money on other things and exploits women, treating them as sex objects??

thanks for opinion but the sex industry has been around since sex has been around and it has been enjoyed buy most of the most prestigous individuals to ever walk the earth at one point or another.

This club doesnt take money from anybody. We provide a valid service that many people are willing to pay for. Both men and women come to the club. It is not anyones business to tell someone how they should spend there money or when. ITs called personal responsibility. Women are not exploited here. We have girls calling the club all the asking for an audition etc....They are there to make money using something god given (their bodies) we provide safe and comfortable environment for them to do so. no one is being exploited here it is all voluntary. Its not like we are pimping them out and keeping them around through mind control and drugs and abuse. that would be exploitation. We don't treat them as sex objects. They are treated as employees. The fact that they take there shirts off doesnt mean we are allowed to degrade them and treat them poorly. Some clientel may treat them this way but that is something that the girls decided to put up with in exchange for making easy money.

On the flip side, you subject these girls to that abuse you know of the rampant drug use and continue to employ these people, and easily stand by to make an easy buck, you think it's not easy to run a strip joint, cmon, I could turn my garage into a parlor charge the girls I hire 20% of their take and still make a profit. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a strip club, though I have better things to do with my time / money...don't kid yourself, you're no saint.

You are acting like we are pushing drugs on the girls. The majority of the girls don't partake. The ones that do its there business. If they want help and want to get out of living the fast life we will help them. You are forgetting that these girls that do partake had substance abuse issues before they started dancing at the club.

If it is as easy as you think everyone would be doing it.

I don't really care. If a girl wants to strip ... let her. However, I find it interesting that I don't know of another profession where the company knowingly allows a drug addiction in the workplace.

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

Generalize much?

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
How angry do they get if you bring in your own alcohol? Say a flask of something to mix with your coke.

I got kicked out of a BYOB place in Philly for having a flask. I honestly didn't realize it was no hard stuff and the bouncer yanked me out of my chair. I convinced him not to bounce me and let me put it in the car. As he's walking me out I'm walking behind him chugging it (I was pretty tore up), he turned around and got really f'n pissed. Threw me out the side door in a torrential rainstorm. My buddies were still inside, he wouldn't let me stand on any of their property to stay dry. Everyone phones were in the car because they were camera phones. I waited outside for like 45 minutes in a late October torrential downpour.......fvck that bouncer.

uuhhhh...Why didn't you just chug it IN YOUR CAR.

 

[halik]

so whats the with the clear heels anyway?

 

[silent tone]

In my experience, decent to upscale joints are only constrained by capacity on the weekends. Does the owner at your club make significant coin?

Also, have you witnessed any interesting drama between the girls, nude catfights, etc.?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

its called show business retard. drugs run rampant in actors, musicians, comedians etc etc etc do not pigeon hole strip clubs as the only place where this goes on. and dont get me started on how coked up wallstreet is and then there is always the food service industry....stoned out chefs as far as the eye can ssee.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: halik
so whats the with the clear heels anyway?

the lights reflect better off them making them more shiny? more shiny = more attention = more money?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: silent tone
In my experience, decent to upscale joints are only constrained by capacity on the weekends. Does the owner at your club make significant coin?

Also, have you witnessed any interesting drama between the girls, nude catfights, etc.?

Yes the owner is making good money.


There is always drama with these girls. they survive on drama. I say "I dont want to even know about it" or "Don't get me involved" all the time. Its a key phrase to learn when dealing with them. Im not sure I've seen anything escalate to fisticuffs yet.

 

[Mellman]

this thread has been most excellent...I don't think I have any questions at the moment... but props to the OP!

 

[Nerva]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: narzy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Auggie
Strip clubs are one of the most base and classless place a man can walk into.

Sorry to get off-topic. Returning to-topic:

Do you feel bad that you're working for an enterprise that both takes large amounts of money often from men who should be spending that money on other things and exploits women, treating them as sex objects??

thanks for opinion but the sex industry has been around since sex has been around and it has been enjoyed buy most of the most prestigous individuals to ever walk the earth at one point or another.

This club doesnt take money from anybody. We provide a valid service that many people are willing to pay for. Both men and women come to the club. It is not anyones business to tell someone how they should spend there money or when. ITs called personal responsibility. Women are not exploited here. We have girls calling the club all the asking for an audition etc....They are there to make money using something god given (their bodies) we provide safe and comfortable environment for them to do so. no one is being exploited here it is all voluntary. Its not like we are pimping them out and keeping them around through mind control and drugs and abuse. that would be exploitation. We don't treat them as sex objects. They are treated as employees. The fact that they take there shirts off doesnt mean we are allowed to degrade them and treat them poorly. Some clientel may treat them this way but that is something that the girls decided to put up with in exchange for making easy money.

On the flip side, you subject these girls to that abuse you know of the rampant drug use and continue to employ these people, and easily stand by to make an easy buck, you think it's not easy to run a strip joint, cmon, I could turn my garage into a parlor charge the girls I hire 20% of their take and still make a profit. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a strip club, though I have better things to do with my time / money...don't kid yourself, you're no saint.

You are acting like we are pushing drugs on the girls. The majority of the girls don't partake. The ones that do its there business. If they want help and want to get out of living the fast life we will help them. You are forgetting that these girls that do partake had substance abuse issues before they started dancing at the club.

If it is as easy as you think everyone would be doing it.

I don't really care. If a girl wants to strip ... let her. However, I find it interesting that I don't know of another profession where the company knowingly allows a drug addiction in the workplace.

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

its called show business retard. drugs run rampant in actors, musicians, comedians etc etc etc do not pigeon hole strip clubs as the only place where this goes on. and dont get me started on how coked up wallstreet is and then there is always the food service industry....stoned out chefs as far as the eye can ssee.

*cough* merrill bankers love their nose candy!

 

[iamme]

does the house encourage the girls to drink to loosen them up and to get saps to buy them for her?

on the flip side, i'd imagine the girls are prone to math errors (undercharging) and maybe going to far while intoxicated.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ElFenix
what % of the girls will perform extra curricular activities for extra $$?

Although I can't say for sure. I'd be willing to bet close to 50%

several have been known to break the contact rules and give h and b jobs in the private dance areas for an extra tip. There are a couple that frequently go home with clients at the end of the night and are full service hookers.

It should be noted there are girls there that just want to make a buck without demeaning themselves beyond showing there tatas and shaking their booty in your face.

Are you sure you work at an SC?

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: narzy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Auggie
Strip clubs are one of the most base and classless place a man can walk into.

Sorry to get off-topic. Returning to-topic:

Do you feel bad that you're working for an enterprise that both takes large amounts of money often from men who should be spending that money on other things and exploits women, treating them as sex objects??

thanks for opinion but the sex industry has been around since sex has been around and it has been enjoyed buy most of the most prestigous individuals to ever walk the earth at one point or another.

This club doesnt take money from anybody. We provide a valid service that many people are willing to pay for. Both men and women come to the club. It is not anyones business to tell someone how they should spend there money or when. ITs called personal responsibility. Women are not exploited here. We have girls calling the club all the asking for an audition etc....They are there to make money using something god given (their bodies) we provide safe and comfortable environment for them to do so. no one is being exploited here it is all voluntary. Its not like we are pimping them out and keeping them around through mind control and drugs and abuse. that would be exploitation. We don't treat them as sex objects. They are treated as employees. The fact that they take there shirts off doesnt mean we are allowed to degrade them and treat them poorly. Some clientel may treat them this way but that is something that the girls decided to put up with in exchange for making easy money.

On the flip side, you subject these girls to that abuse you know of the rampant drug use and continue to employ these people, and easily stand by to make an easy buck, you think it's not easy to run a strip joint, cmon, I could turn my garage into a parlor charge the girls I hire 20% of their take and still make a profit. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a strip club, though I have better things to do with my time / money...don't kid yourself, you're no saint.

You are acting like we are pushing drugs on the girls. The majority of the girls don't partake. The ones that do its there business. If they want help and want to get out of living the fast life we will help them. You are forgetting that these girls that do partake had substance abuse issues before they started dancing at the club.

If it is as easy as you think everyone would be doing it.

I don't really care. If a girl wants to strip ... let her. However, I find it interesting that I don't know of another profession where the company knowingly allows a drug addiction in the workplace.

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

its called show business retard. drugs run rampant in actors, musicians, comedians etc etc etc do not pigeon hole strip clubs as the only place where this goes on. and dont get me started on how coked up wallstreet is and then there is always the food service industry....stoned out chefs as far as the eye can ssee.

First of all, you can take all that retard crap and cram it down your throat.

Second, don't try and play the "all these stars and rich people do it so it must be cool" card. Are you telling me that if a girl or bartender was caught doing coke during a shift that you would take "corrective action"? You know that your employees do drugs and you don't do anything about it. This isn't even about it being a strip club, its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

its called show business retard. drugs run rampant in actors, musicians, comedians etc etc etc do not pigeon hole strip clubs as the only place where this goes on. and dont get me started on how coked up wallstreet is and then there is always the food service industry....stoned out chefs as far as the eye can ssee.

First of all, you can take all that retard crap and cram it down your throat.

Second, don't try and play the "all these stars and rich people do it so it must be cool" card. Are you telling me that if a girl or bartender was caught doing coke during a shift that you would take "corrective action"? You know that your employees do drugs and you don't do anything about it. This isn't even about it being a strip club, its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

1) i claimed you were naive. I provided examples why you were naive

2) I never made any such claim about it being cool so please quote the text where I have. Um we are not allowed to go into the ladies bathrooms for legal reasons. What they do in the toilet is beyond our control. If we can't catch them in the act there is not much ground for us to stand. We employ dancers that want to work and dont descriminate based on what activities they lilke to engage in in their personal life. It is not our job or our business to get involved with what they want to do outside of the club. If they are all ****** up at the club your damn right we'll do something about it. They arent operating heavy machinery so its not they are putting themselves and others at risk. No they get no medical as none of them work full time hours.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: iamme
does the house encourage the girls to drink to loosen them up and to get saps to buy them for her?

on the flip side, i'd imagine the girls are prone to math errors (undercharging) and maybe going to far while intoxicated.

no we don't encourage any type of substance abuse. They do not get discounts on liquor. Though most need a couple too feel comfortable enough to get nekkid. Guys typically go out of their way to by them booze.

We do deliberately try to get patrons buzzed though just like any bar so they will have a better time and spend more money. We don't hesitate to cut people off that are visibly intoxicated.

REgarding math errors....the girls dont have that much responsibility. We clock all the dances for them and collect money when they are done with a dance. We'd be stupid to leave it up to them to be honest.

and there are bouncers watching all the dances to regulate if things are "going to far"

 

[edro]

Does your club give out only $2 bills as change?
I went to a club a while back for a bachelor party and the only change they gave was $2 bills.
(So you had to tip with $2 instead of $1)

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: edro
Does your club give out only $2 bills as change?
I went to a club a while back for a bachelor party and the only change they gave was $2 bills.
(So you had to tip with $2 instead of $1)

no way. But we have had them circulating around lately. The older men sometimes like to bring them in to show off or something. Some sort of wow cool factor. I had one in my drawer last night when when i was doing the money count.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718...its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

Turn on the T.V....let me know how many ads you see for drugs. While watching TWO shows in the tube last night, I saw commercials for:

Aspirin
Nyquil
Viagra
Crestor
Diet pills/weight loss
Numerous beer commercials

Let's not forget our magazines that are stuffed with ads for cigarettes and other forms of penis enlargement/erectile disfunction/weight loss/etc.

We are a country FILLED to the brim with drug addicts. Unfortunately, because it's legal, most people don't think twice about everything I mentioned above. They only focus on the drugs we waste money on trying to fight against.

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: Billzie7718...its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

Turn on the T.V....let me know how many ads you see for drugs. While watching TWO shows in the tube last night, I saw commercials for:

Aspirin
Nyquil
Viagra
Crestor
Diet pills/weight loss
Numerous beer commercials

Let's not forget our magazines that are stuffed with ads for cigarettes and other forms of penis enlargement/erectile disfunction/weight loss/etc.

We are a country FILLED to the brim with drug addicts. Unfortunately, because it's legal, most people don't think twice about everything I mentioned above. They only focus on the drugs we waste money on trying to fight against.

Wait ... so are you saying we should make them all LEGAL or all ILLEGAL?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718


Wait ... so are you saying we should make them all LEGAL or all ILLEGAL?

he wasnt making either statement. stay on topic or leave.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: Billzie7718...its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

Turn on the T.V....let me know how many ads you see for drugs. While watching TWO shows in the tube last night, I saw commercials for:

Aspirin
Nyquil
Viagra
Crestor
Diet pills/weight loss
Numerous beer commercials

Let's not forget our magazines that are stuffed with ads for cigarettes and other forms of penis enlargement/erectile disfunction/weight loss/etc.

We are a country FILLED to the brim with drug addicts. Unfortunately, because it's legal, most people don't think twice about everything I mentioned above. They only focus on the drugs we waste money on trying to fight against.

Wait ... so are you saying we should make them all LEGAL or all ILLEGAL?

Obv all legal.

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: Billzie7718...its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

Turn on the T.V....let me know how many ads you see for drugs. While watching TWO shows in the tube last night, I saw commercials for:

Aspirin
Nyquil
Viagra
Crestor
Diet pills/weight loss
Numerous beer commercials

Let's not forget our magazines that are stuffed with ads for cigarettes and other forms of penis enlargement/erectile disfunction/weight loss/etc.

We are a country FILLED to the brim with drug addicts. Unfortunately, because it's legal, most people don't think twice about everything I mentioned above. They only focus on the drugs we waste money on trying to fight against.

Wait ... so are you saying we should make them all LEGAL or all ILLEGAL?

he wasnt making either statement. stay on topic or leave.

He WAS making such a comment by comparing the afore mentioned drugs to cocaine, meth, heroin. He was saying "we see other drugs advertised everyday so what's wrong with the illegal ones?" I was simply unclear as to if he was saying that is good or bad.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718


He WAS making such a comment by comparing the afore mentioned drugs to cocaine, meth, heroin. He was saying "we see other drugs advertised everyday so what's wrong with the illegal ones?" I was simply unclear as to if he was saying that is good or bad.

I am well aware what you were trying to do. His point was that their are drug addicts everywhere. Not that all drugs should be legal. now please stay on topic.

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: narzy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Auggie
Strip clubs are one of the most base and classless place a man can walk into.

Sorry to get off-topic. Returning to-topic:

Do you feel bad that you're working for an enterprise that both takes large amounts of money often from men who should be spending that money on other things and exploits women, treating them as sex objects??

thanks for opinion but the sex industry has been around since sex has been around and it has been enjoyed buy most of the most prestigous individuals to ever walk the earth at one point or another.

This club doesnt take money from anybody. We provide a valid service that many people are willing to pay for. Both men and women come to the club. It is not anyones business to tell someone how they should spend there money or when. ITs called personal responsibility. Women are not exploited here. We have girls calling the club all the asking for an audition etc....They are there to make money using something god given (their bodies) we provide safe and comfortable environment for them to do so. no one is being exploited here it is all voluntary. Its not like we are pimping them out and keeping them around through mind control and drugs and abuse. that would be exploitation. We don't treat them as sex objects. They are treated as employees. The fact that they take there shirts off doesnt mean we are allowed to degrade them and treat them poorly. Some clientel may treat them this way but that is something that the girls decided to put up with in exchange for making easy money.

On the flip side, you subject these girls to that abuse you know of the rampant drug use and continue to employ these people, and easily stand by to make an easy buck, you think it's not easy to run a strip joint, cmon, I could turn my garage into a parlor charge the girls I hire 20% of their take and still make a profit. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a strip club, though I have better things to do with my time / money...don't kid yourself, you're no saint.

You are acting like we are pushing drugs on the girls. The majority of the girls don't partake. The ones that do its there business. If they want help and want to get out of living the fast life we will help them. You are forgetting that these girls that do partake had substance abuse issues before they started dancing at the club.

If it is as easy as you think everyone would be doing it.

I don't really care. If a girl wants to strip ... let her. However, I find it interesting that I don't know of another profession where the company knowingly allows a drug addiction in the workplace.

u are a very naive person then.

I'm sorry, but in most PROFESSIONS (not just a place where you get paid ... that would be a JOB) if an employer discovers a drug problem, and ever more-so drug usage while working, that employee is gone.

Perhaps I'm not naive, but rather, you're immersed in a drug rich environment. There are jobs where drug use is not accepted or condoned.

its called show business retard. drugs run rampant in actors, musicians, comedians etc etc etc do not pigeon hole strip clubs as the only place where this goes on. and dont get me started on how coked up wallstreet is and then there is always the food service industry....stoned out chefs as far as the eye can ssee.

First of all, you can take all that retard crap and cram it down your throat.

Second, don't try and play the "all these stars and rich people do it so it must be cool" card. Are you telling me that if a girl or bartender was caught doing coke during a shift that you would take "corrective action"? You know that your employees do drugs and you don't do anything about it. This isn't even about it being a strip club, its's about the fact that you knowingly employ drug addicts. I hope they get good medical.

Am I the only one that sees the flaw in this?

1) i claimed you were naive. I provided examples why you were naive

2) I never made any such claim about it being cool so please quote the text where I have. Um we are not allowed to go into the ladies bathrooms for legal reasons. What they do in the toilet is beyond our control. If we can't catch them in the act there is not much ground for us to stand. We employ dancers that want to work and dont descriminate based on what activities they lilke to engage in in their personal life. It is not our job or our business to get involved with what they want to do outside of the club. If they are all ****** up at the club your damn right we'll do something about it. They arent operating heavy machinery so its not they are putting themselves and others at risk. No they get no medical as none of them work full time hours.

If you can't tell when someone is high, then maybe you should check the accusations of naivete at the door. So you either know they do it and allow it to continue or you suck at monitoring your girls. Which is it?

 

[tomywishbone]

To the op:thumbsup::beer: