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[Poulsonator]

Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

If you can't tell when someone is high, then maybe you should check the accusations of naivete at the door. So you either know they do it and allow it to continue or you suck at monitoring your girls. Which is it?

An addict can be "high" but that doesn't mean they are flying around like bats outta hell. Getting "high" could just be bringing them from a crashed out low up to "normal" . I said if it is apparent someone is all mangled something will be done. But then again if a girl has been drinking all night who are we to accuse them that they are on drugs because they are acting tipsy? there are various states of influence one can be under. Some drugs are uppers others are downers. It is not our place to expertly exam each girl each night multiple times per night. Thats insane. They don't even do that for jobs that do require operating heavy machinery.

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

I realize that. However, I think that a person working at JP Morgan that is doing rails in the bathroom will be fired if/when management finds out.

 

[dudeman007]

Here's a question. How much are you "allowed" to touch? Does it differ from girl to girl or place to place?

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


An addict can be "high" but that doesn't mean they are flying around like bats outta hell. Getting "high" could just be bringing them from a crashed out low up to "normal" . I said if it is apparent someone is all mangled something will be done. But then again if a girl has been drinking all night who are we to accuse them that they are on drugs because they are acting tipsy? there are various states of influence one can be under. Some drugs are uppers others are downers. It is not our place to expertly exam each girl each night multiple times per night. Thats insane. They don't even do that for jobs that do require operating heavy machinery.

You're also not allowed to get drunk at those jobs either

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

I realize that. However, I think that a person working at JP Morgan that is doing rails in the bathroom will be fired if/when management finds out.

speculation. Don't be so sure of yourself. Whats that ex-cowboy football player that got caught smoking crack multiple times and he still does commentary football games for ESPN.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


An addict can be "high" but that doesn't mean they are flying around like bats outta hell. Getting "high" could just be bringing them from a crashed out low up to "normal" . I said if it is apparent someone is all mangled something will be done. But then again if a girl has been drinking all night who are we to accuse them that they are on drugs because they are acting tipsy? there are various states of influence one can be under. Some drugs are uppers others are downers. It is not our place to expertly exam each girl each night multiple times per night. Thats insane. They don't even do that for jobs that do require operating heavy machinery.

You're also not allowed to get drunk at those jobs either

anything else captain obvious?

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

I realize that. However, I think that a person working at JP Morgan that is doing rails in the bathroom will be fired if/when management finds out.

speculation. Don't be so sure of yourself. Whats that ex-cowboy football player that got caught smoking crack multiple times and he still does commentary football games for ESPN.

Doesn't that fall under your "TV stars are exempt from the rules" policy?

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


An addict can be "high" but that doesn't mean they are flying around like bats outta hell. Getting "high" could just be bringing them from a crashed out low up to "normal" . I said if it is apparent someone is all mangled something will be done. But then again if a girl has been drinking all night who are we to accuse them that they are on drugs because they are acting tipsy? there are various states of influence one can be under. Some drugs are uppers others are downers. It is not our place to expertly exam each girl each night multiple times per night. Thats insane. They don't even do that for jobs that do require operating heavy machinery.

You're also not allowed to get drunk at those jobs either

anything else captain obvious?

They why bring it up. Do you just randomly throw in comments that have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Stay on topic please.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

I realize that. However, I think that a person working at JP Morgan that is doing rails in the bathroom will be fired if/when management finds out.

speculation. Don't be so sure of yourself. Whats that ex-cowboy football player that got caught smoking crack multiple times and he still does commentary football games for ESPN.

Doesn't that fall under your "TV stars are exempt from the rules" policy?

its more in line with how wealthy the person is and how valuable they are to the business at hand and how big of a scandal it is. Top broker certainly will not be fired. In fact most large corps its often policy to keep it quiet and pay for the person to get help with their addiction.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


An addict can be "high" but that doesn't mean they are flying around like bats outta hell. Getting "high" could just be bringing them from a crashed out low up to "normal" . I said if it is apparent someone is all mangled something will be done. But then again if a girl has been drinking all night who are we to accuse them that they are on drugs because they are acting tipsy? there are various states of influence one can be under. Some drugs are uppers others are downers. It is not our place to expertly exam each girl each night multiple times per night. Thats insane. They don't even do that for jobs that do require operating heavy machinery.

You're also not allowed to get drunk at those jobs either

anything else captain obvious?

They why bring it up. Do you just randomly throw in comments that have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Stay on topic please.

The point here is we aren't going to monitor our employees in a more strict fashion than say someone operating a bus or a train.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Drugs are drugs. Why only a select few are illegal is something I don't understand, especially since one of them (marijuana) is less harmful than aspirin.

My point was that every company in America employs drug addicts.

I realize that. However, I think that a person working at JP Morgan that is doing rails in the bathroom will be fired if/when management finds out.

That I can't argue with. The same could be said if the same person was popping Viagra in the bathrooms and walking around the office with a raging hard boner all day.

However, you're comparing JP Morgan to a strip club. While there are rules, each company enforces them much differently. It's definitely not black and white.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718
They why bring it up. Do you just randomly throw in comments that have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Stay on topic please.

You obviously have issues with strip clubs and the people who work there. That's fine. Please leave this thread since you don't have anything worthwile to contribute. Take your issues with drugs and stripclubs and start your own thread in P&N.

 

[Zolty]

Billzie7718 stop trolling on IcebergSlim, he doesn't make the rules of the world nor can he control the actions of his "Co-workers". What does it matter if some strippers do drugs, if they have been using for a longer period of time they know how to hide it. You are implying that they walk up to him, bend him over and do a line right off his ass, which I am sure is not the case. Case in point, one of my co-workers is constantly under the influence of pot while working, he passed his original drug test and it doesn't affect his performance enough to warrant another one, my employer doesn't care. I work for a mid sized ISP with customers in 30 states, so it is by no means a small company.

 

[Billzie7718]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: Billzie7718
They why bring it up. Do you just randomly throw in comments that have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Stay on topic please.

You obviously have issues with strip clubs and the people who work there. That's fine. Please leave this thread since you don't have anything worthwile to contribute. Take your issues with drugs and stripclubs and start your own thread in P&N.

Ok, lets get this straight. I have no problem with strip clubs or drugs. I used to frequent SC's every couple weeks or so for after hours parties ( 1:30am - 6:00am) here in Dallas. I have no problem with Slim, but he talks like he doesn't know it's happening. This is a forum where people are supposed to be able to talk freely, but he is dancing around the question left and right, "well, they're drunk so we can't tell", "we can't go in the bathrooms", etc. Anyone that has spent any time in a strip club knows how easy it is to find. I was simply expecting him to say "Yes, it happens and I don't work to hard to stop it because it's good for business."

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Billzie7718

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: Billzie7718
They why bring it up. Do you just randomly throw in comments that have absolutely no bearing on the discussion? Stay on topic please.

You obviously have issues with strip clubs and the people who work there. That's fine. Please leave this thread since you don't have anything worthwile to contribute. Take your issues with drugs and stripclubs and start your own thread in P&N.

Ok, lets get this straight. I have no problem with strip clubs or drugs. I used to frequent SC's every couple weeks or so for after hours parties ( 1:30am - 6:00am) here in Dallas. I have no problem with Slim, but he talks like he doesn't know it's happening. This is a forum where people are supposed to be able to talk freely, but he is dancing around the question left and right, "well, they're drunk so we can't tell", "we can't go in the bathrooms", etc. Anyone that has spent any time in a strip club knows how easy it is to find. I was simply expecting him to say "Yes, it happens and I don't work to hard to stop it because it's good for business."

Patrons certainly are not doing drugs on the premises. Thats a fact. They would be tossed out instantly in a very uncomfortable fashion. WE KNOW SOME GIRLS ARE USING. WE CANNOT and WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNLESS we catch them in the act or they have put themselves or someone else in immediate danger. And for you to think I don't stop it because its good for business is preposterous. I'm not seeing any profit sharing money. I make peanuts at this place and it doesn't do me any better if the club makes 1 dollar or 100k.

 

[5to1baby1in5]

Originally posted by: thraashman

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Zee

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Aharami
this is one of the best threads in quite a while. last time i went to a strip club, two dancers got up on stage and started getting it on. started off with petting and feeling. moved on to frenching and fingering, and ended up in a 69. The entire crowd swarmed the sitting area (closer to the dance floor). Any stuff like that goes on in the club you work in?

no we do have mock hooking up though. no actual tonguing or fingering. alot of ass grabbing, erotic touching etc.... lower class clubs will look the other way on these things and let the girls go nuts. also this is 21+ club where alchohhol is served so the bottoms have to stay on.

bottoms stay on? this is a topless club only?

In CT you can only have full nude if it is a no liquor club.

That is one thing I love about Georgia. I don't know of a single club here that isn't full nude, and I only know of one that doesn't serve liquor and is thus 18+ instead of 21+, and that one blows.

I thought that was a Federal law (no hard liquor at botomless bars).

Federal laws don't apply to Wash. DC since it is not a state though.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5

Originally posted by: thraashman


That is one thing I love about Georgia. I don't know of a single club here that isn't full nude, and I only know of one that doesn't serve liquor and is thus 18+ instead of 21+, and that one blows.

I thought that was a Federal law (no hard liquor at botomless bars).

Federal laws don't apply to Wash. DC since it is not a state though.

Such laws are jurisdiction dependent. (city/county - not usually state)

 

[Sukhoi]

Billzie7718, STFU and keep the thread on topic, thanks. It was rather interesting before you starting going off on drugs.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5

Originally posted by: thraashman

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Zee

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Aharami
this is one of the best threads in quite a while. last time i went to a strip club, two dancers got up on stage and started getting it on. started off with petting and feeling. moved on to frenching and fingering, and ended up in a 69. The entire crowd swarmed the sitting area (closer to the dance floor). Any stuff like that goes on in the club you work in?

no we do have mock hooking up though. no actual tonguing or fingering. alot of ass grabbing, erotic touching etc.... lower class clubs will look the other way on these things and let the girls go nuts. also this is 21+ club where alchohhol is served so the bottoms have to stay on.

bottoms stay on? this is a topless club only?

In CT you can only have full nude if it is a no liquor club.

That is one thing I love about Georgia. I don't know of a single club here that isn't full nude, and I only know of one that doesn't serve liquor and is thus 18+ instead of 21+, and that one blows.

I thought that was a Federal law (no hard liquor at botomless bars).

Federal laws don't apply to Wash. DC since it is not a state though.

Eh? I thought that D.C. has no exclusive rights as an independant body; that is, the federal government can make local laws in D.C. Don't federal laws apply to everyone in the United States?

 

[SaoFeng]

 

[onemo]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Here's a question. How much are you "allowed" to touch? Does it differ from girl to girl or place to place?

Just wanted to chime in on this since I haven't seen an answer from OP, I by no means am a professional butt nekkid club goer (but I can dream).

I live in central TX, and a club here, "The Dollhouse", touching the girls is a big no no. They can touch you all they want, but touch them and you could get bounced with extreme prejudice.
My buddies took me to Austin for my birthday, and I can't remember the name of the club (could have been the Yellow Rose, I was kinda hammered), but the girls there tell you where you CAN touch. Generally the boobies, butt and crotch region is the no-fly area, some even demonstrate it like a flight attendant on a plane with the seat belt thingy.

Girls that don't touch, or won't let you touch would be at a disadvantage to girls that do. So I would assume the "allowance" is place to place, and county to county (I seem to remember a club in Colorado Springs where the girls stayed about 2 ft away from you while dancing, and only touched your upperbody every once in a while). Somebody should make a centralized database.

 

[courtjester123]

onemo, there was a web site bigdog.net or something similar, with reviews of clubs as well as entertainers. I think it was shut down though (cant check now since nsfw.) I'm not all that familiar but my sense is it got too popular / too big in terms of covering the entire U.S. as well as allowing classified ads, which is where it prolly got into trouble for promoting prostitution or whatnot.

I've been somewhat successful googling the names of clubs and browsing around, even though some of the reviews were old and you never can tell, with places changing their practices, cover charges, drink prices etc, over time. I guess word-of-mouth is probably your best shot.

I think you're right in terms of clubs being generally governed by local/state laws, with each having their own policies where they skate the line and push whatever they can until there is a crackdown.

it's funny there is a club around chicago billed as a bikini bar but they go topless because they keep a small string around their midsection. it must be that the local laws dont specify nipplage coverage/uncoverage and they laughingly consider the string to be a piece of clothing

they apparently have also been avoiding local sales and/or real estate taxation laws for a long time...they were originally established as a small place and have since done a lot of expanding and remodeling. but they purposely leave the place in a constant state of construction, since once they are done I'm sure the place will be re-zoned or whatever.

I'm sure most of what happens when it comes to clubs is truly a reflection of which wheels are being greased and how heavy the grease is being applied

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
as you know from this thread

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1926061&enterthread=y

I have had a part time gig at this strip club for about 6 weeks now. with increasing responsibilities.

if you would like to ask me anything abou tthe experience i will open the floor to your questions at this time.


proceed.

updates?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
as you know from this thread

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1926061&enterthread=y

I have had a part time gig at this strip club for about 6 weeks now. with increasing responsibilities.

if you would like to ask me anything abou tthe experience i will open the floor to your questions at this time.


proceed.

updates?

ummm......well what do you want to hear. Still working there 3-4 nights.....im a seasoned vet at this point.