stress is consuming me

[lxskllr]

Then you should ask for double or triple pay.

I could definitely get more money, but the company isn't doing fantastic, and I'm happy with what I've got. I like the company, and it's the only one I want to do this work for. Pulling a union move, and shutting down your livelihood cause you have them over a barrel isn't my style.

I don't give many shits about cash anymore. I have enough to pay my bills, and have a bunch banked. I'm only doing this crap cause I guess I should be doing something, and it's 100% at my pleasure. I can walk away any time, and money can't buy that kind of freedom ;^)

 

[Mixolydian]

Stress? Welcome to adulthood.

 

[purbeast0]

Pretty much any job where you sit at a desk can be automated. The ones that are harder to automate can just be outsourced.

lolwut?

 

[Red Squirrel]

lolwut?

Not sure what's so hard to understand that is pretty much a known fact at this point.

Most jobs can be replaced by a machine or a computer program. The more complex ones ones can just be replaced by cheap foreign labor or TFWs. We already see that a lot today, though mostly the outsourcing part, but automation is a real looming threat.

The safer jobs are physical ones like construction, but even those will eventually be automated/outsourced via prefab. Things arn't looking good for the future unless we can change the whole idea of how society operates, with everyone having to work full time just to make ends meet.

 

[Chaotic42]

Not sure what's so hard to understand that is pretty much a known fact at this point.

Most jobs can be replaced by a machine or a computer program. The more complex ones ones can just be replaced by cheap foreign labor or TFWs. We already see that a lot today, though mostly the outsourcing part, but automation is a real looming threat.

The safer jobs are physical ones like construction, but even those will eventually be automated/outsourced via prefab. Things arn't looking good for the future unless we can change the whole idea of how society operates, with everyone having to work full time just to make ends meet.

You can outsource things like simple programming, data entry, and other lower level desk jobs. You *can* outsource project management, systems and software engineering, design, etc, but there's a reason that people who are good at those things can demand a premium. They're hard, require experience and training, and often take a special kind of person. If you're working on a $200M systems contract, paying a systems engineer $150K is totally worth it. Employers often get better return on their dollar as wages increase. A great engineer can command that $150K, but you couldn't replace them with three $50K engineers, and certainly not with 10 $15K engineers.

 

[brianmanahan]

Stress? Welcome to adulthood.

tbh i think i'd enjoy picking up boxes more

i could be wrong though

 

[purbeast0]

Not sure what's so hard to understand that is pretty much a known fact at this point.

Most jobs can be replaced by a machine or a computer program. The more complex ones ones can just be replaced by cheap foreign labor or TFWs. We already see that a lot today, though mostly the outsourcing part, but automation is a real looming threat.

The safer jobs are physical ones like construction, but even those will eventually be automated/outsourced via prefab. Things arn't looking good for the future unless we can change the whole idea of how society operates, with everyone having to work full time just to make ends meet.

You do know that EVERY software development job is a "desk job" right? So you're telling me you can automate software development?

Sales jobs are also primarily "desk jobs" too with sales people sitting at desks. You are going to automate those?

I think you just live in some small bubble and don't know how the real world actually works.

 

[Red Squirrel]

You do know that EVERY software development job is a "desk job" right? So you're telling me you can automate software development?

Sales jobs are also primarily "desk jobs" too with sales people sitting at desks. You are going to automate those.

Sorta, not really automate it, but use premade programs instead, outsource the management/implementation part. Heck pretty much all the places I worked at where they have custom code they outsource programming. Companies don't care about quality they just care about cost. If stuff stops working they'll just throw more money at the outsourcing company to get it to work. Still cheaper than hiring dedicated programmers.

I'd say an exception would be major software companies like Microsoft as they actually make software that they sell, but trying to make it into that is like a new hockey player trying to make the NHL. Also would not be surprised if internal development is still outsourced. There's different reasons for that, not only cost, but liability. If they get someone else to do it they have someone to blame. Stupid mentality but it's how things work. A lot of stuff actually gets outsourced for that reason alone.

You could easily automate sales - that already happens with online shopping carts. There will always be some sales people for niche stuff like car dealerships or companies that want to keep a more human touch, but it can fairly easily be automated if they really want to.

 

[purbeast0]

Sorta, not really automate it, but use premade programs instead, outsource the management/implementation part. Heck pretty much all the places I worked at where they have custom code they outsource programming. Companies don't care about quality they just care about cost. If stuff stops working they'll just throw more money at the outsourcing company to get it to work. Still cheaper than hiring dedicated programmers.

I'd say an exception would be major software companies like Microsoft as they actually make software that they sell, but trying to make it into that is like a new hockey player trying to make the NHL. Also would not be surprised if internal development is still outsourced. There's different reasons for that, not only cost, but liability. If they get someone else to do it they have someone to blame. Stupid mentality but it's how things work. A lot of stuff actually gets outsourced for that reason alone.

You could easily automate sales - that already happens with online shopping carts. There will always be some sales people for niche stuff like car dealerships or companies that want to keep a more human touch, but it can fairly easily be automated if they really want to.

Are you really comparing sales teams for enterprise companies to online shopping carts? How do you think these "premade programs" are created, by robots? Or what about the shopping cart software you are talking about them using - you think those are made/maintained/supported by robots?

If I recall you live in the middle of nowhere, of course they have to outsource work because no one wants to live there and work there. Outsourcing is far and few between with "real" companies other than contract work. But you do realize, "outsourcing" work is actual real people doing the work, not automated robots, so again, not sure why you brought that up trying to back up your claim that any desk job can be automated.

You clearly have never stepped foot out of your little bubble.

 

[zinfamous]

I've always thought you could use more weed in your life, OP.

 

[brianmanahan]

I've always thought you could use more weed in your life, OP.

the only time i've ever tried the stuff was when walking through a smoker's cloud in downtown areas, but i didn't inhale

ohio actually has it legal for medial use now (even though nobody can get it supposedly), but i doubt it will be legal for rec use until the year 2100

i just got done reviewing code for work for the past few hours and could really use a way to destress... but the only option i have is ATOT.

at the very least i suppose i can start planning for my next vacation, provided they don't make me work through that one too...