Street racers suck

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Millennium


Maybe because I talk to him by PM a good bit and know he is married with kids? That couldn't be why I said that could it?

Well since you said "probably" I figured you weren't sure about his age...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
OK, I realize going 100 on a perfectly straight interstate is not incredibly dangerous. If you do it and get away with it, good for you. If you get a ticket, good for you, you deserved it. If you DO get in an accident, good for you - now peel yourself off the road. Oh wait that would advocate personal responsibility and just about everyone hates that.

But this bothers me because a, most people who drive that fast don't JUST do it on straight, empty interstates. b, people who THINK they are good drivers are not always good drivers. I'm assuming you have a racing license to prove you're such a good driver, right Millennium? Arbitrary self-assessment doesn't make a person a good driver. Having never been in an accident does not make a person a good driver. You don't have to be a great driver to handle a car going 100 mph straight, but I'd hope the people I see weaving in and out of traffic have been driving more than a year or two.

Still being naive aren't you? What kind of "racing license" are you talking about? I don't know of a state that offers one. Maybe you are talking about a license for a regional circuit? Who wants that? I am not a fan of open wheels. Driving 150+ on the interstate is not dangerous either if there is no moron drivers around, and you know how to drive. How do I know I am a good driver? Because I drive extremely fast almost everyday, and don't have any problems. Then there are people like you with their Ford Festivas that feel left out. Pardon me while I go cry you a river. Please, do us all a favor and rescind your life. You are another person spouting an opinion about cars and driving, and you know nothing about either.

Thank You.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Still being naive aren't you? What kind of "racing license" are you talking about? I don't know of a state that offers one. Maybe you are talking about a license for a regional circuit? Who wants that? I am not a fan of open wheels. Driving 150+ on the interstate is not dangerous either if there is no moron drivers around, and you know how to drive. How do I know I am a good driver? Because I drive extremely fast almost everyday, and don't have any problems. Then there are people like you with their Ford Festivas that feel left out. Pardon me while I go cry you a river. Please, do us all a favor and rescind your life. You are another person spouting an opinion about cars and driving, and you know nothing about either.

Thank You.

Ummm... k, the racing license comment was a joke. I don't drive a Ford Festiva... my first college roommate did, it was pretty funny. What a POS. Way to go, making assumptions abotu what I know and don't know... You do realize this thread is about street racers who put other people in danger, right? Then morons like you come in talking about how you can drive as fast as you want and be fine, because you're a good driver. I'm sure the guys who killed the cop and got no prison time thought they were good drivers as well.

 

[atom]

and will u please tell me were is there a race track in los angeles that is opened to the public?

There are quite a few race tracks (both road courses and drag strips) in SoCal. But judging from your posts it dopesn't look like you would care either way.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Millennium

Still being naive aren't you? What kind of "racing license" are you talking about? I don't know of a state that offers one. Maybe you are talking about a license for a regional circuit? Who wants that? I am not a fan of open wheels. Driving 150+ on the interstate is not dangerous either if there is no moron drivers around, and you know how to drive. How do I know I am a good driver? Because I drive extremely fast almost everyday, and don't have any problems. Then there are people like you with their Ford Festivas that feel left out. Pardon me while I go cry you a river. Please, do us all a favor and rescind your life. You are another person spouting an opinion about cars and driving, and you know nothing about either.

Thank You.

Ummm... k, the racing license comment was a joke. I don't drive a Ford Festiva... my first college roommate did, it was pretty funny. What a POS. Way to go, making assumptions abotu what I know and don't know... You do realize this thread is about street racers who put other people in danger, right? Then morons like you come in talking about how you can drive as fast as you want and be fine, because you're a good driver. I'm sure the guys who killed the cop and got no prison time thought they were good drivers as well.

So I can't make assumptions about you(which were more insults than assumptions) yet you can assume things about me? Seems like a great way to get a point across.

 

[Lithium381]

wow look at all the MEN here....piss piss piss piss.....i'm tempted to join in

take it to the track if you want to race, or as mentioned, find a safe legal place to do it
leave earlier so you don't have to try and be jeff gordon to get somewhere on time, once again, mentioned above, i'll probably see you at the next light anyways

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
wow look at all the MEN here....piss piss piss piss.....i'm tempted to join in

take it to the track if you want to race, or as mentioned, find a safe legal place to do it
leave earlier so you don't have to try and be jeff gordon to get somewhere on time, once again, mentioned above, i'll probably see you at the next light anyways

but if u leave earlier and dont' speed its not fun driving. Going fast and waving in and out of traffic is fun

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: Lithium381
wow look at all the MEN here....piss piss piss piss.....i'm tempted to join in

take it to the track if you want to race, or as mentioned, find a safe legal place to do it
leave earlier so you don't have to try and be jeff gordon to get somewhere on time, once again, mentioned above, i'll probably see you at the next light anyways

but if u leave earlier and dont' speed its not fun driving. Going fast and waving in and out of traffic is fun

You're not funny.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: Lithium381
wow look at all the MEN here....piss piss piss piss.....i'm tempted to join in

take it to the track if you want to race, or as mentioned, find a safe legal place to do it
leave earlier so you don't have to try and be jeff gordon to get somewhere on time, once again, mentioned above, i'll probably see you at the next light anyways

but if u leave earlier and dont' speed its not fun driving. Going fast and waving in and out of traffic is fun

You're not funny.

He isn't. Driving fast is ok, but weaving out of traffic is decidedly moronic and life-threatening.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
OK, I realize going 100 on a perfectly straight interstate is not incredibly dangerous. If you do it and get away with it, good for you. If you get a ticket, good for you, you deserved it. If you DO get in an accident, good for you - now peel yourself off the road. Oh wait that would advocate personal responsibility and just about everyone hates that.

But this bothers me because a, most people who drive that fast don't JUST do it on straight, empty interstates. b, people who THINK they are good drivers are not always good drivers. I'm assuming you have a racing license to prove you're such a good driver, right Millennium? Arbitrary self-assessment doesn't make a person a good driver. Having never been in an accident does not make a person a good driver. You don't have to be a great driver to handle a car going 100 mph straight, but I'd hope the people I see weaving in and out of traffic have been driving more than a year or two.

Well, since my comment brought this on, I will speak for myself, once for clarification.

My car is a 2001.5 Passat wagon. This is a car found all over Europe. The autobahn is chock full of them, and they are going 100+. Funny thing is that the people there get where they are going alive. Why? Well it is NOT because their roads provide some magic protection. It is because people drive with their brains and eyes engaged. Quick, which is more dangerous, someone driving in my car on a relatively empty straight interstate in good conditions in daylight at 100 MPH or someone in an old Escort in need of an alignment following 12 inches behind an 18 wheeler at 50? How about some jerk cutting people off at 65? Millennium is right, you have no idea about me, who I am, and what I do or have done, and you never will. However you should pay attention to the first and last line of my post

He never should have been going that fast in that area.
If you know anything about motorcycles, you know mine is pretty damn fast, and yes I have gone a great deal over 100. Now I will not debate that it is faster than allowed by law, but if I get caught I will take my lumps. What I will never do is ride that way in less than excellent conditions, and in an area where I could possibly endanger anyone else. I will not zoom past cars moving 70 MPH, doing a hundred faster. No. In fact, I am a more reserved rider than a lot of guys in Civics on the same road. All this to say, that the driver who caused an accident was driving in a way that was endangering others. He was reckless with no regard to people in his vicinity.

If you are going to go fast, at least make sure you can without wiping someone out.
I am not sure how the meaning of this escapes understanding. Driving too fast for conditions (snow, rain, dark) is bad. Doing it where someone else can get hurt is worse. Oh by the way, I admit to using the cutsie "skilz"
"teh" and other colloquialisms of the IntArWeb as it suits my mood. Why should I not? One more thing. I have been to more track days than I can count. They require that mystical license. Been quite a few years, but yeah I won more than my share.

Now you know as much as I care to reveal, but just don't try to read more into a post than there is. BTW, I do not think anyone is advocating racing in public streets, or weaving or cutting out vehicles. If they are, I have missed that.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: dighn
street racers need to have their license revoked for at least 5 years. if they are caught again, for life.

IMHO, DUI is much worse. In street racing, chances are people will at least be paying attention to their surroundings..

i'd say the same about speeding suv drivers.


and if your truck or suv is raised so high that your bumper is at kill level for most drivers, you should have your license revoked for life regardless as your just a jackass.

 

[mugs]

Millennium is right, you have no idea about me, who I am, and what I do or have done, and you never will. However you should pay attention to the first and last line of my post

Yeah, I never really cared who you are, what you do, or what you have done. Millennium brought that up. The reason I responded to you the way I did was because two posts above yours, someone mentioned how he hated it when cars pass him at 100 mph. Then you responded with your comment about people who lose control at 100 mph not having skilz. Given the nature of the post you seemed to be responding to, I took that to mean you would drive that fast around other cars. But as a motorcycle rider, you are probably more aware than most people that you are not in control of how other people drive, so you are probably sensible enough not to drive 100 mph when there are other cars on the road. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Some people have posted some pretty ignorant comments in this thread - read back through what Ylen13 has said. Your comment sounded a lot like one of his, which is probably why I overreacted.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Millennium is right, you have no idea about me, who I am, and what I do or have done, and you never will. However you should pay attention to the first and last line of my post

Yeah, I never really cared who you are, what you do, or what you have done. Millennium brought that up. The reason I responded to you the way I did was because two posts above yours, someone mentioned how he hated it when cars pass him at 100 mph. Then you responded with your comment about people who lose control at 100 mph not having skilz. Given the nature of the post you seemed to be responding to, I took that to mean you would drive that fast around other cars. But as a motorcycle rider, you are probably more aware than most people that you are not in control of how other people drive, so you are probably sensible enough not to drive 100 mph when there are other cars on the road. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Some people have posted some pretty ignorant comments in this thread - read back through what Ylen13 has said. Your comment sounded a lot like one of his, which is probably why I overreacted.

No prob. Misunderstandings can be resolved, which they have. The 100 mph comment was based on Decalo's post about 3 guys racing each other. Perhaps I ought to clarify my point. Three cars going down a highway OUGHT to be able to do it without crashing. If they cannot, something is seriously wrong. Now, they SHOULD NOT be goofing around out of control zipping past people and endangering them. I suppose in my mind, part of the skill of driving is assessing the nature of your environment and driving appropriately. Obviously our three Speed Racers failed that test.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: UnixFreak

Your little counter-argument wasn't really valid...80mph driving should not cause a blowout. Shooting a gun at someone's head..and killing them..is murder.

See the difference?

I've had my car to 110+mph, and no blowouts..the "street racing" did *not* cause the blowout. End of story.

Now..if they weren't racing, they would've been going slower..and probably would've been able to handle the blowout better. However..racing didn't cause the blowout itself.

Edit: For the record..no, I wasn't racing.

and your counter arguement is stupid. Racing didn't cause the blowout, but if it had happened at 35-40, which was the speed limit of the area, this wouldn't have happened, and people wouldn't have been killed. Plain and simple. If you want to be stupid and take your car to 110 on the street, do it where there are no people, so that only you pay for your stupid actions.

Or be a real man, and take it to the racetrack. Thats all I am saying.

All I said was that 80mph did not cause the blowout. I wasn't justifying 80mph..and I don't know the speed limit in that area.

I was on the Florida Turnpike at 1am...are you going to lecture me about driving in traffic? I know my car better than you know me..

 

[Mamoose]

:disgust: What can you expect from the Vin Diesel wannabes that buy into the HollyWood Hype?

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Last month in front of a hotel where Camaro/Firebird owners had gathered for an annual meet. 2 cars got in a street race. No idea of the speeds involved, but a Camaro lost control. hit a curm and launched itself through the air. In taking out a light post and whatnot. the 2 rear seat passengers where ejected and killed while the driver suffered from minor injures IIRC.

Street racing is just plain dumb and I D 10 Ts that do it need to spend a week in a coffin as their victims get that privledge forever.

 

[EXman]

80? That's it? I would say racing had nothing to do with a blowout..people go 80-90 on I75 all the time. It's routine..

90 routine to you but wise nope... looked like a city street to me.

 

[EXman]

Ylen13 your posts are fvcked up you think those 2 ricers who killed a ladies desrve no more than 2 years house arrest??? whatever and the other post by you are pretty screwed up and sounds like you support street racing.

 

[compslckr]

one word, "pwn3d" and yeah, he deserved that, look at that fuckin fart cannon on that ricemobile

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

So you're saying the fast make you furious?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
So you're saying the fast make you furious?

LOL...

 

[compslckr]

its quote mania up in this hizouse!