Street racers suck

[jlee]

Originally posted by: dighn
street racers need to have their license revoked for at least 5 years. if they are caught again, for life.

IMHO, DUI is much worse. In street racing, chances are people will at least be paying attention to their surroundings..

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

 

[UnixFreak]

Your little counter-argument wasn't really valid...80mph driving should not cause a blowout. Shooting a gun at someone's head..and killing them..is murder.

See the difference?

I've had my car to 110+mph, and no blowouts..the "street racing" did *not* cause the blowout. End of story.

Now..if they weren't racing, they would've been going slower..and probably would've been able to handle the blowout better. However..racing didn't cause the blowout itself.

Edit: For the record..no, I wasn't racing.

and your counter arguement is stupid. Racing didn't cause the blowout, but if it had happened at 35-40, which was the speed limit of the area, this wouldn't have happened, and people wouldn't have been killed. Plain and simple. If you want to be stupid and take your car to 110 on the street, do it where there are no people, so that only you pay for your stupid actions.

Or be a real man, and take it to the racetrack. Thats all I am saying.

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: UnixFreak

Your little counter-argument wasn't really valid...80mph driving should not cause a blowout. Shooting a gun at someone's head..and killing them..is murder.

See the difference?

I've had my car to 110+mph, and no blowouts..the "street racing" did *not* cause the blowout. End of story.

Now..if they weren't racing, they would've been going slower..and probably would've been able to handle the blowout better. However..racing didn't cause the blowout itself.

Edit: For the record..no, I wasn't racing.

and your counter arguement is stupid. Racing didn't cause the blowout, but if it had happened at 35-40, which was the speed limit of the area, this wouldn't have happened, and people wouldn't have been killed. Plain and simple. If you want to be stupid and take your car to 110 on the street, do it where there are no people, so that only you pay for your stupid actions.

Or be a real man, and take it to the racetrack. Thats all I am saying.

and will u please tell me were is there a race track in los angeles that is opened to the public?

 

[silverpig]

A few points:

Okay, racing didn't cause the blowout, but the racing did lead to having less control after the blowout. If he'd have been going the limit, the blowout wouldn't have caused a huge accident like it did.

Racing on open industrial/farm roads when no one else is around and where the only people who could get hurt are the racers themselves is fine in my book. Illegal, but I don't have a problem with it. Racing on commercial streets with intersections every block = st00pid.

 

[psianime]

Cops are asses when it comes to someone who has a fixed up car because of this reason. There are a lot of assh@le people out there without regard of their surroundings (especially other drivers)... stay safe out there everyone.

-psianime

 

[HappyCracker]

They should have their right legs amputated and then be beaten with them. Don't race through an urban area. Go where there's no people. If that means you have to wait until night, put your machismo crap on hold til then. Rub one out if you have to to release some energy. Too bad the kid didn't die. This may sound grim, but punishments for stuff like this are weak. Drive drunk and get a ticket. Yup, that'll learn em a lesson. Please. People forget the energies involved in a moving car. A car is not a toy, and neither is life

 

[mugs]

I was talking to a cop about an accident that happened in my area recently. Apparantly some guys were racing, and one of them lost control of his car... took out two light poles, several signs, and eventually crashed his car into a stone wall. The car wasn't drivable, so he just left it there. They ran his plates and went to his house and picked him up. What an idiot. On top of whatever else he gets, he'll be charged with hit and run because he left the scene. 🙂 Score one for the good guys!

Edit: How long will it be before the first idiot wannabe street racer replies to this and says something to the effect of, "he crashed? must not have skillz"

 

[bob332]

i am not a street racer but i do drive fast - 60-70mph in the city, 80-100mph on the highway, but if i ever get in wreck here in AZ, where i live, i hope some dumb @$$ doesn't send the pics and some video to another idiot who then starts a ridiculous thread in a computer forum.... 🙂

 

[HappyCracker]

Hey that's what they deserve. Do you think the law against murder is there to take up space in a bill somewhere? Those kids were dumb and they deserve to be ridiculed for it, especially by a forum of computer folk. There's no need to go that fast. If people would leave earlier instead of waiting til the last minute, there's no need to drive fast and fly through traffic. Half the time I end up at the same light with them later anyway. Where did all that speeding and stress get them?

 

[isaacmacdonald]

wow, must be an unstable car. I've had a tire blow on my old cutlass ciera going just over 90 and it didn't tear into the median or even push me far out of my lane.

 

[dquan97]

80 on a local road is too fast...especially in the morning!

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed. The car may take longer to slow down, but you have to plan for that. A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving. BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Oh how I would laugh if you got shot in the pecker...

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed. The car may take longer to slow down, but you have to plan for that. A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving. BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

umm... should inertia make a difference? if you're straight lining @ 100mph versus 80mph, isn't more force required to make a turn in the same distance? More force = less stability. That's why I don't usually take hard corners @ 120 in my altima 🙂

 

[JackBurton]

Racing is cool. 🙂

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed. The car may take longer to slow down, but you have to plan for that. A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving. BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

umm... should inertia make a difference? if you're straight lining @ 100mph versus 80mph, isn't more force required to make a turn in the same distance? More force = less stability. That's why I don't usually take hard corners @ 120 in my altima 🙂

You can't read can you? I said the CAR is affected, but the driver isn't. Thank you come again.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed. The car may take longer to slow down, but you have to plan for that. A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving. BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

umm... should inertia make a difference? if you're straight lining @ 100mph versus 80mph, isn't more force required to make a turn in the same distance? More force = less stability. That's why I don't usually take hard corners @ 120 in my altima 🙂

You can't read can you? I said the CAR is affected, but the driver isn't. Thank you come again.

actually you said the car takes longer to slow down, implying that as long as you're planning on maintaining the same speed there's no actual difference.

 

[HokieESM]

UnixFreak --> dead on. Street racers should definitely bring it to the track.... or, believe it or not, its definitely NOT hard to contact a local area mall to use their parking lot after closing hours. I've seen several groups who've blocked off areas of the mall parking lot after closing... even getting permission from the local PD to do so. Keeps everyone nice and safe (except for the drivers, of course... and its more safe for them as well). Plus, in most areas of the country, track time isn't that expensive if you find the right outlet (most places have amateur races on a regular basis for a small fee....). I used to do so.... I had a modified Honda Civic (with no stickers!) that I used to race from '98-'00 only on the track (in fact, by '00, it wasn't street legal... no cats).

Street racing (particularly in urban areas) and other risky motor-vehicle crimes (like DUI) need to be enforced better... and the punishments need to fit the crime. Suspension/revocation of license, etc. If you want to indulge in "fun" behavior, you should do it safely.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed.

Of course there's no difference in reaction time, but the distance you travel during that reaction time is obviously longer if you are driving faster. The distance you can see at night does not increase if you are driving faster. And the results of swerving to avoid debris are more significant at 100 MPH than at 80 MPH.

A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving.

Yeah, and even race car drivers get in accidents, right?

BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

What are you basing that on? I guess I assumed someone over 40 wouldn't say "skilz," but I suppose I could be wrong. Since when does not driving more than 10-15 over the speed limit on public roads make someone naive and paranoid? If you want to drive 100 miles an hour, do what other people have said - take it to a race track.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Anyone who loses control of a car at 100 MPH on an interstate either has less than no skilz or has a rat trap for a car or both. I have found myself going that fast on the interstates, and it was like "yawn"

Oh how I'd laugh if you ever got in an accident...

Assuming the road is empty, how is 100mph any less safe than 80mph? If the car is built to handle it, I don't see the problem..

It's much easier to lose control at 100 than at 80. If you're doing this at night, who knows what could be on the road - like a blown out tire from a truck. You're right, you probably won't have an accident going 100 mph on a wide-open freeway... I just said I'd laugh if you did (or got pulled over). Then maybe you'd rethink your mad skilz.

Personally, I outgrew driving like a maniac a long time ago.

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed. The car may take longer to slow down, but you have to plan for that. A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving. BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

umm... should inertia make a difference? if you're straight lining @ 100mph versus 80mph, isn't more force required to make a turn in the same distance? More force = less stability. That's why I don't usually take hard corners @ 120 in my altima 🙂

You can't read can you? I said the CAR is affected, but the driver isn't. Thank you come again.

actually you said the car takes longer to slow down, implying that as long as you're planning on maintaining the same speed there's no actual difference.

Not that is NOT what my statement implies. My statement implies that the faster you go, the longer it takes for a car to slow down. A driver has to be aware of that and act accordingly. Evidently, your reading comprehension DOES suck.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Millennium

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed.

Of course they're no difference in reaction time, but the distance you travel during that reaction time is obviously longer if you are driving faster. The distance you can see at night does not increase if you are driving faster. And the results of swerving to avoid debris are more significant at 100 MPH than at 70 MPH.

A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving.

Yeah, and even race car drivers get in accidents, right?

BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

What are you basing that on? I guess I assumed someone over 40 wouldn't say "skilz," but I suppose I could be wrong. Since when does not driving more than 10-15 over the speed limit on public roads make someone naive and paranoid? If you want to drive 100 miles an hour, do what other people have said - take it to a race track.

100 isn't that fast... I dunno about you but I can control my car fine at that speed, and see no problem with going 100+ on a straight highway with no one around. I don't speed much since that 116mph ticket though.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: Millennium

Not really. If you know how to drive, speed only makes you pay more attention to the road. There is no difference in reaction time for a driver due to speed.

Of course there's no difference in reaction time, but the distance you travel during that reaction time is obviously longer if you are driving faster. The distance you can see at night does not increase if you are driving faster. And the results of swerving to avoid debris are more significant at 100 MPH than at 80 MPH.

A sh!tty driver, is a sh!tty driver regardless of what speed they are driving. Good drivers are good drivers regardless of what speed they are driving.

Yeah, and even race car drivers get in accidents, right?

BTW, Hayabusa is probably twice your age and is married with kids. I don't think he needs to outgrow anything. Not everyone is naive and paranoid like you are.

What are you basing that on? I guess I assumed someone over 40 wouldn't say "skilz," but I suppose I could be wrong. Since when does not driving more than 10-15 over the speed limit on public roads make someone naive and paranoid? If you want to drive 100 miles an hour, do what other people have said - take it to a race track.

Maybe because I talk to him by PM a good bit and know he is married with kids? That couldn't be why I said that could it?

 

[mugs]

OK, I realize going 100 on a perfectly straight interstate is not incredibly dangerous. If you do it and get away with it, good for you. If you get a ticket, good for you, you deserved it. If you DO get in an accident, good for you - now peel yourself off the road. Oh wait that would advocate personal responsibility and just about everyone hates that.

But this bothers me because a, most people who drive that fast don't JUST do it on straight, empty interstates. b, people who THINK they are good drivers are not always good drivers. I'm assuming you have a racing license to prove you're such a good driver, right Millennium? 😉 Arbitrary self-assessment doesn't make a person a good driver. Having never been in an accident does not make a person a good driver. You don't have to be a great driver to handle a car going 100 mph straight, but I'd hope the people I see weaving in and out of traffic have been driving more than a year or two.