Strangeness overclocking my Duron 700...

[DesignDawg]

Hey all,

I got my Alpha PAL 6035 today, so I put my arctic silver on, pencil-unlocked my processor, and started overclocking. 800..fine. 900...fine. 950...fine. NO PROBLEMS.

1000...fine...EXCEPT...it SHOWS the processor running at 900. Then when I go intot the BIOS, it is shown as a multiplier of 10. SO, I save it again with a 10 multiplier... "AMD Duron @ 900 (9x100 MHz). So I check it agian in the BIOS, and it is still set at 10. So, I set it to 10.5, and the startup shows it at 950 MHz. So, what the dilly-yo? It doesn't make any sense. Is there a revision of the BIOS that doesn't show the correct processor speed?

Any help would rock.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[Bakwetu]

Benchmark it and compare the diffrent settings. Congrats on your chip btw.

 

[zippy]

Great chip...

What program did you use that showed it at 900 and 950 instead of 100MHz greater than that? What motherboard? KT7 i presume from the bios overclocking...

Maybe try the AMD Utility that tells you the speed...I think there is such a thing. I'm pretty sure there is...check amd.com.

 

[DesignDawg]

Thank you for congratulating me...

I thought about benchmarking....but I don't want to install any stuff on there I don't need, and though I know I could benchmark with Photoshop and rendering test and things liek that, I don't want my BIOS to show a different speed than the CPU is actually running. --It's just a matter of pride, you know?

Also, I was wondering this: By the mere fact that I CAN change the speed AT ALL, we can know for sure that I HAVE fully and successfully unlocked the CPU, right? Like, there's no chance that it is "not unlocked enough" to run at 1 GHz, right? It was my understanding that it's either LOCKED or UNLOCKED. --No in-between. Right?

Oh...I almost forgot.... You know when I set it to 10, it posts at 900, and when I set it to 10.5, it posts at 950, right? Well, when I set it to 11, it doesn't post at all, and then reverts back down to automatic.

Thanks,

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DesignDawg]

<< What program did you use that showed it at 900 and 950 instead of 100MHz greater than that? >>


Just the BIOS at POST.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[zippy]

LOL doh...sorry, i'm so spaced out today...

 

[zippy]

H-Oda's Download's page...download WCPUID and see what that says...

 

[DesignDawg]

I will when I get back home, unless someone can help me out before then....
And yes, I thought I had mentioned it...it is a KT7 RAID.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DesignDawg]

Still haven't made any progress in figuring this out....

But I do know this: My 700 is ROCK SOLID STABLE at 950 MHz at only 1.675V!!! Hehehehe.

Man, that's cool. I have had GOOD luck with OC'ing. My two celeron 366's run solid stable at 550 on DEFAULT voltage.

So, anyone know about this not reporting the speed thing?

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DesignDawg]

***UPDATE***

I just DLed and ran WCPUID. Same thing. When I have the multiplier set to 10, I get 900 at post, and 900 in CPUID. WTF? It's making me kinda ill, because, like I mentioned in the above post, I am getting 950 at a pretty low voltage! .25 volts over default is PRETTY GOOD for a 250 MHz overclock! Now, if I could just MAKE IT go to 1 GHz.

I had a thought....There is an option in the BIOS in Softmenu III that says &quot;Speed Error Hold&quot; It was disabled, and I thought maybe if it were enabled, I wouldn't be getting past POST at all....and it was setting the CPU down to a speed that it COULD run at instead of &quot;holding&quot;. SO, I turned it on, and it didn't affect it. --ANd I found out anyway that that's nto really what that does.

I WOULD say I give up, but I don't WANT TO give up!! I want 1 GHz!! I certainly didn't pay $50.00 for this heatsink and a tube of arctic siler just to stop at 950 @ 1.675V!!

Please helap if you can.

Thanks.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[zippy]

I'm sorry, but I find it humorous that you paid ~$100 for a CPU, then $50 for cooling it. For that $150 you could have gotten a Tbird 750 and gone to 950 or 1GHz. Don't mind me, I'm just playing the devil's advocate.

Check abit's web site for a new bios...maybe?

 

[DesignDawg]

Well, firstly, I didn't pay $50.00 to cool this CPU. I paid 30 plus a tube of arctic silver to cool SEVERAL CPU's. --And had I gotten a TBird 750, I would have gotten the SAME EXACT heatsink and grease, so it would have cost me $50.00 more for no more speed, as you can see from the fact that I am running at 950 right now.

See?

So, anyway...I didn't want to flash my BIOS, as this is the only thing wrong at the moment. Maybe I will though.....

Anyone else?

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DesignDawg]

Bump o' the day.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[DaddyG]

Your problem sounds very much like your pencil job is not good on one of the L1 bridges. I'd invest about $7 in the Loctite rear window defogger repair kit available at Autoshops. You get a small bottle of highly conductive fluid and a little brush. Ya gotta cut the brush a bit and the stuff dries pretty fast but when its complete the connections are way better than graphite.

 

[Remnant2]

I think I agree. Its possible that, if the connection on one of the L1 bridges is not good enough, its causing your problem -- if you go find a diagram of what each bridge is responsible for, you might even be led to which one.

 

[Bakwetu]

yes, why not sharpen up that pencil again and fill in some more lead? worth a try-quick, easy and gratis

 

[DesignDawg]

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!!

It WAS my pencil job. I thought I had done a good job, but I guess not.

I AM NOW POSTING THIS FROM MY DURON 700@1000!!! WOOHOOOO!!!!!!!

Thanks again. Check the main threads list for a topic about this specifically.

Ricky
DesignDawg

 

[Eli]

That's awesome dude. I can't wait to get a Duron or Tbird. Congrats on the success. BTW- What week is your Duron?



*drools at the thought of upgrading my K6-3/450 to 1GHz...*

 

[Maverick2002]

whoa!!!!!!!!!!!! how on EARTH did you get 600 to 1000 using a PENCIL?!?!?!?!?!?! sweeeeeeeeetttttt..........mine is at 750 now (with pencil....duh), and i PRAY i can get it up to 1000

man this is GREAT news LOFL

 

[Eli]

It's a 700@1000 .. and, in order to overclock, if your L1 bridges are broken, you have to reconnect them somehow. A pencil works great, and is about as cheap as you can get.