Strange find inside Nintendo games from flea market. NOT AN APRIL FOOLS PRANK

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Nashemon

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That's crazy! Are the cops following up with the guy at the flea market to find where he obtained the carts or if there are more of them? Seems like something they might be interested in checking out. I'd be paranoid as heck if I was him. Probably close shop until I could confirm there weren't any more of them. Double checking all trade-ins.

Do the games work? I'll assume the broken one doesn't. Satisfying your curiosity is one thing, but if the game doesn't work, are you getting a refund for it?
 

Ichinisan

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Oct 9, 2002
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That's crazy! Are the cops following up with the guy at the flea market to find where he obtained the carts or if there are more of them? Seems like something they might be interested in checking out. I'd be paranoid as heck if I was him. Probably close shop until I could confirm there weren't any more of them. Double checking all trade-ins.

Do the games work? I'll assume the broken one doesn't. Satisfying your curiosity is one thing, but if the game doesn't work, are you getting a refund for it?
I never got to try the games while I had them. The excitement was worth it though.

The flea market is only open on weekends. The police from that other county / city have not contacted me, so I still have to wonder if they are looking into it.
 

JSt0rm

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If it didnt pass any of their tests then it isnt any of the usual suspects.
 

clamum

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Several people told me to use gloves, so I was very careful not to touch any of the stuff while cutting it open. I carefully put the cut packet into 2 ziploc bags.

Still alive :)

So many people offered to make it disappear and I couldn't be sure if they were even serious. One of them said: "Dude, it's heroin. Call the cops." So I did.

Cops aren't sure what it is. They said it could be a designer drug that's chemically altered so it's not easy to identify. I've heard people say "hash," "heroin," even "fentanyl."

Not sure if I'll ever find out what they determine it to be.
Wow man, that's a crazy find!

LOL at the people who called it hash. Just... SMH.
 

Ichinisan

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Wow man, that's a crazy find!

LOL at the people who called it hash. Just... SMH.
A paramedic on NintendoAge forums says he's 100% sure it's heroin. He sees it almost every other day while dealing with overdose incidents (an epidemic).
 
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CZroe

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As if Nintendo games weren't addictive enough already, sheesh!

You never invite me over to play Nintendo, oniisan. :(
That was before we had enough to share. Come on down!

That's crazy! Are the cops following up with the guy at the flea market to find where he obtained the carts or if there are more of them? Seems like something they might be interested in checking out. I'd be paranoid as heck if I was him. Probably close shop until I could confirm there weren't any more of them. Double checking all trade-ins.

Do the games work? I'll assume the broken one doesn't. Satisfying your curiosity is one thing, but if the game doesn't work, are you getting a refund for it?
That’s exactly why Ichinisan wasn’t supposed to publicly mention calling the cops yet. Cat’s out of the bag here, I guess, but please don’t bring it up yet if you see this in other social media.

The police don’t want anyone there getting wind of the almost-certain visit so we can’t tell him we’ve contacted the police. The thing is, he knows we wouldn’t make it disappear any other way, so he’s either expecting it anyway or thinks we stopped talking about it after April 1st because it was an April Fools joke.

A different department will be investigating and our PD said they’ll likely bring a dog to the shop. Being a flea market vendor, the next business day is Saturday but I wouldn’t doubt it if they paid him or the shop a visit already.

I flipped through all the NES games on the customer-accessible shelves but anything worth $10 or more goes behind the glass. It’s very possible that those two were traded in with some $10+ titles too.

The vendor is a friend and he was the first to know what we found. He knows we shared the find publicly so he’s probably expecting them anyway. I know he was unaware as would anyone who traded it in, so I’m more concerned with disrupting his business. The only reason we didn’t discover it right there in his shop is because searching for his special gamebit screwdriver (required) was causing a disruption (I called the search off).

I never got to try the games while I had them. The excitement was worth it though.

The flea market is only open on weekends. The police from that other county / city have not contacted me, so I still have to wonder if they are looking into it.
They might assume it’s an April Fools joke.

If it didnt pass any of their tests then it isnt any of the usual suspects.
They said it was “clearly synthetic” and that it wouldn’t make sense to even bother putting a synthetic on the field testing kit since they will be chemically engineered to circumvent it. They mentioned synthetic heroin at one point and others who would know have chimed in to confirm for us that it is, indeed, some kind of heroin. Value has been described as “easily five-figures.” One officer described fentanyl/carfentanyl as a being “a synthetic heroin” but he didn’t directly suggest it was one of those.
 

Darwin333

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If it didnt pass any of their tests then it isnt any of the usual suspects.

This. A field test would have shown if it was heroin. You could have put some in a capsule and sent it to DanceSafe and they would have tested it via GC/MS and posted the results online for you.
 

Ichinisan

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This. A field test would have shown if it was heroin. You could have put some in a capsule and sent it to DanceSafe and they would have tested it via GC/MS and posted the results online for you.
I don't know if they field tested it or not. It's possible they might not want us to know what it is. When the second officer arrived, the first one told him to grab a test kit, but I don't think my camera footage shows them doing a test before leaving yesterday, I could still see grains that the officer dropped all over the porch. One was kinda large and I took pictures of it.

OIOjMi1.jpg


https://imgur.com/a/cQnz8

I'll have to check again and see if the grains are still there. Probably gone after the rain we had.
 

BudAshes

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I hope when the cops show up at his store he shouts "April Fools!" and it's just some used kitty litter.
 
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kage69

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Man that's crazy!

Looks like a version of heroin or meth to me. With that carfentanyl around these days, damn, just opening a package like that is risky. It's less a drug and more like a weapon really.
 

CZroe

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I don't know if they field tested it or not. It's possible they might not want us to know what it is. When the second officer arrived, the first one told him to grab a test kit, but I don't think my camera footage shows them doing a test before leaving yesterday
They didn’t. I’ve reviewed all of the footage. Early on the second officer says it’s “clearly synthetic.” The first officer does ask the second if he has a kit and he does confirm it’s in the car before stepping away to his car. He returns but does not test anything. He later says that it doesn’t make any sense to “put a kit on it” because it is synthetic. Presumably, synthetics are chemically engineered to defeat most field testing.
 

ViRGE

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It's a shame the cops couldn't (or wouldn't) say what it is. But I'm glad everyone is okay. And now you have a timeless story to tell friends and family for years to come.

Come on over and we'll play Nintendo.
For some reason playing Nintendo with Ichinisan and CZroe sounds like a lot of fun. That's definitely going on the bucket list.:D
 

lxskllr

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I don't know if they field tested it or not. It's possible they might not want us to know what it is. When the second officer arrived, the first one told him to grab a test kit, but I don't think my camera footage shows them doing a test before leaving yesterday, I could still see grains that the officer dropped all over the porch. One was kinda large and I took pictures of it.

OIOjMi1.jpg


https://imgur.com/a/cQnz8

I'll have to check again and see if the grains are still there. Probably gone after the rain we had.
That picture looks more like meth than heroin. I don't think heroin will ever get that crystalline(Used that word a couple times this week. More than I have the last ten years :^D ) look, but I'm not a pro.
 

CZroe

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That picture looks more like meth than heroin. I don't think heroin will ever get that crystalline(Used that word a couple times this week. More than I have the last ten years :^D ) look, but I'm not a pro.
That’s what I was thinking too but given the rest of what I know I still think it’s heroin. Meth generally goes the other way. I recall a particular case where a small energy shot bottle contained some kind of liquid meth and someone in the UK dropped dead after drinking it.

The majority of it was like a particularly-coarse sand. Only a couple pebble-like pieces looked crystalline. The police said “clearly synthetic” a couple times and said that they weren’t going to use the field test kit for that reason (synths are chemically engineered to defeat them). Of course, it may just be that they didn’t want us to know. Other people with good explanations for why they would expertly know immediately contacted us to identify it as heroin, so I’m reasonably confident that it’s some kind of heroin. The chunk on the floor is insanely macro’d but it’s really barely bigger than a large grain of salt.
 
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Presumably, synthetics are chemically engineered to defeat most field testing
Those field test kits are known to be utter garbage and are as likely to show a false positive as they are to show a real positive result.
 

BoomerD

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Judging solely from the size of the crystals shown in the above picture, that is NOT heroin.

I had the privilege of destroying thousands of kilos of the stuff in Vietnam, all of it was more than 90% pure...and it was ALL fine powder, not chunky crystals like that.

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meth...maybe, cocaine...possibly, synthetic garbage...also a possibility.
 

Ichinisan

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Still no word from police. I don't know what it was or how much it was worth. Does anyone know if there's a mandatory federal report or something where this would show up?
 

sdifox

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Still no word from police. I don't know what it was or how much it was worth. Does anyone know if there's a mandatory federal report or something where this would show up?


Why would this involve feds?
 

zinfamous

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Value has been described as “easily five-figures.” One officer described fentanyl/carfentanyl as a being “a synthetic heroin” but he didn’t directly suggest it was one of those.

5 figures, huh? I'm disappointed that you guys didn't try to call Tuco first--maybe get some nice cash out of the lucky find. :(
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Judging solely from the size of the crystals shown in the above picture, that is NOT heroin.

I had the privilege of destroying thousands of kilos of the stuff in Vietnam, all of it was more than 90% pure...and it was ALL fine powder, not chunky crystals like that.

_79313321_spl_powder.jpg


meth...maybe, cocaine...possibly, synthetic garbage...also a possibility.
That picture was taken the next day after wind and rain and may have nothing to do with it. It looked like an off-white, almost brown or tan substance with a coarse granular structure. When poking around the police managed to find a larger piece that was like a small cloudy pebble that I assumed looked like meth but it wasn’t representative of the rest at all.

Even if that was left behind from the packets, we also have no sense of scale from the image. I saw it in person so I know just how small it was. The largest piece is barely bigger than a single grain of salt from a salt shaker. The rest are smaller. That’s using the macro camera settings.

When dealing with synthetic heroin it can be several orders of magnitude more potent than 90% heroin. Fentanyl can be hundreds of times stronger with carfentanyl being thousands of times stronger than that. If it can be chemically engineered to defeat field testing and remain as dense/potent then I expect that it will look significantly different in many ways from, say, 90% heroin derived from opium.

Regardless, multiple independent experts have reached out to us to tell us that they know exactly what it is. They’ve convincingly explained how/why they know (professionally). Until someone with similar credentials tells me otherwise, I’m trusting them, and they tell me it’s heroin.

Why would this involve feds?
He’s talking about reporting. You know, like how police have to report traffic accidents to the feds for national statistics.

5 figures, huh? I'm disappointed that you guys didn't try to call Tuco first--maybe get some nice cash out of the lucky find. :(
Some DEA agent got him almost a decade ago. :( Had a shoot-out in the middle of a desert. They weren’t even looking for him... just chanced on him while looking for some missing person much like we chanced on these drugs while looking for collectible video games.
 

sdifox

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I'm just thinking federal agencies probably want numbers to track trends or something. For all I know there could be some value threshold that triggers federal attention.


Only if it crosses state lines