Stop using the word "gay"

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wuliheron

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How about something politically correct like, "Sexually Challenged". After all, they are a small minority and many are apparently desperate to get laid.
 

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How about something politically correct like, "Sexually Challenged". After all, they are a small minority and many are apparently desperate to get laid.

That implies there is some sort of difficulty about being gay... something that would make it a challenge. Also the "desperate to get laid" thing is just a crap stereotype. IMO Straight men are more desperate in that respect.
 

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Fair enough, it's just that in my experience everyone has the capacity to be attracted to attractive people regardless of sex, I just think that "straight" people or "gay" people repress it. In my experience both gay and straight men will admit they have a preference for what makes either a man or woman attractive.

I was attracted to men since I was like 5 years old. Literally.

Women can be beautiful in many ways, stunning even. But to get a physical bodily reaction from me... impossible.
 

wuliheron

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That implies there is some sort of difficulty about being gay... something that would make it a challenge. Also the "desperate to get laid" thing is just a crap stereotype. IMO Straight men are more desperate in that respect.

OK then, how about "Legally Sexually Challenged"? I know its a mouthful and personally I prefer gay to homosexual myself just because its short and sweet. Still, it helps get the point across.
 

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That implies there is some sort of difficulty about being gay... something that would make it a challenge. Also the "desperate to get laid" thing is just a crap stereotype. IMO Straight men are more desperate in that respect.

It's pretty easy to get laid as a gay man, but that is only if you don't care who you sleep with.

It is definitely more difficult being gay than being straight, I think that's pretty simple. We are ostracized, viewed as secondary citizens, do not have the same civil rights, and more likely to face bodily harm from extremists, aside from the usual verbal assault you'll get from strangers if you are out of the closet.
 

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That is pretty standard view for someone who is bi I could see. As someone who is hetero myself? Nah.



That is pretty standard view for someone who is bi I could see. As someone who is hetero myself? Nah.

Are you sure about that? Growing up in a poor neighborhood I seen young males perform homosexual acts for a dollar . None of these men are homosexuals or even Bi for that matter .

As for what research shows thats laughable. Do the research in harlem and see the facts change. Research facts that is .

We here were all taught that our sun was a single gas giant . But now many in scientific are not so sure about that anymore . accepting we are a binary system now. As you will shortly see what goes around comes around and its coming around and it actually makes alot of sense in so far as theology is concerned. Not long now and this debate will be laid to rest . May you recieve what you have sowed.
 

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I was attracted to men since I was like 5 years old. Literally.

Women can be beautiful in many ways, stunning even. But to get a physical bodily reaction from me... impossible.

Nothings impossible.

It's pretty easy to get laid as a gay man, but that is only if you don't care who you sleep with.

It is definitely more difficult being gay than being straight, I think that's pretty simple. We are ostracized, viewed as secondary citizens, do not have the same civil rights, and more likely to face bodily harm from extremists, aside from the usual verbal assault you'll get from strangers if you are out of the closet.

Maybe it's a cultural thing then, because that isn't really the case over here anymore.

While I agree it's definitely easier to get laid as a gay guy, that's purely because men are very sexual and so when it's man + man it's a lot easier than man + woman, that's why IMO straight men are far more "desperate" for it than gay / bi guys.
 
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OK then, how about "Legally Sexually Challenged"? I know its a mouthful and personally I prefer gay to homosexual myself just because its short and sweet. Still, it helps get the point across.

I don't really understand what's wrong with gay. It works, it's simple. As for legally sexually challenged, that's very dependant on geography, it's really not the case over here. You could argue that given the wrong political climate women fall into that category.
 
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The biggest question here is always why ?

Although it is not a fact that is true for all homosexuals, some male homosexuals share some behavior characteristics with females.

The same also applies when looking at female homosexuals.
Some "Butch" type lesbians exist. Some are extremely feminine.

The main differences in a male brain and a female brain can be found in the hypothalamus.

What is the really only characteristic difference between males and females when it comes to mating behavior is the preoptic hypothalamus.

The preoptic hypothalamus plays a role in the mating behavior exhibited by humans and other animals. It has 2 times the amount of cells in a male brain when compared to a female brain. This could have something to do with the increased sexual drive of males. But that is not all there is to know.
There is also a part that controls the biological clock.

The Suprachiasmatic nucleus. According to some researchers, this part is a piece of the puzzle when it comes to sexual orientation and perhaps what humans and other animals find sexual attractive.

Then there is the sexually dimorphic nucleus.
With heterosexual males this part of the hypothalamus is much larger than when compared to heterosexual females. The theory is that with homosexual males however, this part seems to be smaller as well.

Transsexuals, and then primary male to female transsexuals, have a smaller uncinate nucleus than when compared with heterosexual males who feel comfortable in their body. Also part of the hypothalamus. This part is smaller in size and neurons when compared.

Primarily, the sexual orientation and awareness is rooted in parts of the hypothalamus. It has to be, because in nature many "gay" animals can be found. And these do not have the neocortex and other parts that create the human conscience.

Being gay is not a conscience choice. Behavior is.

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GAY : A term that explains happiness.
I doubt all gays are naturally happy.
 
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The biggest question here is always why ?

Although it is not a fact that is true for all homosexuals, some male homosexuals share some behavior characteristics with females.

The same also applies when looking at female homosexuals.
Some "Butch" type lesbians exist. Some are extremely feminine.

The main differences in a male brain and a female brain can be found in the hypothalamus.

What is the really only characteristic difference between males and females when it comes to mating behavior is the preoptic hypothalamus.

The preoptic hypothalamus plays a role in the mating behavior exhibited by humans and other animals. It has 2 times the amount of cells in a male brain when compared to a female brain. This could have something to do with the increased sexual drive of males. But that is not all there is to know.
There is also a part that controls the biological clock.

The Suprachiasmatic nucleus. According to some researchers, this part is a piece of the puzzle when it comes to sexual orientation and perhaps what humans and other animals find sexual attractive.

Then there is the sexually dimorphic nucleus.
With heterosexual males this part of the hypothalamus is much larger than when compared to heterosexual females. The theory is that with homosexual males however, this part seems to be smaller as well.

Transsexuals, and then primary male to female transsexuals, have a smaller uncinate nucleus than when compared with heterosexual males who feel comfortable in their body. Also part of the hypothalamus. This part is smaller in size and neurons when compared.

Primarily, the sexual orientation and awareness is rooted in parts of the hypothalamus. It has to be, because in nature many "gay" animals can be found. And these do not have the neocortex and other parts that create the human conscience.

In my personal opinion it is environmental rather than biological. I believe everyone is born with the capacity to be any sexuality, but that things change in the way they perceive others through time. I'm bisexual, I would argue that I carry both male and female stereotypical characteristics, it's certainly an interesting area of query. There may be some causal link between biology and the persons resultant sexuality, but from my own experience / research sexuality is developed, not innate (though in some cases It would seem to be innate more often than not it appears to be developed)
 

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EDIT:
GAY : A term that explains happiness.
I doubt all gays are naturally happy.

That definition is somewhat outdated now, and I don't think any demographic is naturally happy.

Also I believe that behaviour can be an unconscious choice.
 
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That definition is somewhat outdated now, and I don't think any demographic is naturally happy.

Also I believe that behaviour can be an unconscious choice.

Because you write "can be", you are right.

Because behavior is learned. And when you learn something, it sooner or later becomes automatic behavior when repeated often. Thus you could say it is unconscious but not from the start. For example, look at autistic people.
Some repeatedly execute the same action. This causes them to become very good at it to the extreme. With "normal" people this also applies but the urge to "lock up" in a certain behavior pattern is not there.
 
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In my personal opinion it is environmental rather than biological. I believe everyone is born with the capacity to be any sexuality, but that things change in the way they perceive others through time. I'm bisexual, I would argue that I carry both male and female stereotypical characteristics, it's certainly an interesting area of query. There may be some causal link between biology and the persons resultant sexuality, but from my own experience / research sexuality is developed, not innate (though in some cases It would seem to be innate more often than not it appears to be developed)

I think there lies the difference, a heterosexual male can have sex with another male but he will never feel as comfortable as when being with a woman. The same is true for homosexuals .
The same is true for heterosexual and homosexual females.
Having homosexual sex does not mean you are automatically homosexual by nature(born). Just as having heterosexual sex does not mean you are born a heterosexual.
You can learn to except that you can have sex but you never feel truly happy with the person you are with after the "being in love" part is over. Because then it comes to what you really like about that person and how that person makes you feel in every aspect of having feelings.

Because it is the part after the orgasm that is important. It is linked to how being in love is the same as showing obsessive behavior patterns. One cannot stop thinking about the same person over and over again. Parts of the brain being flooded with serotonin in a similar way as drug addicts ( i think it was freebase but i am not sure) experience when they get high.

When you orgasm, your brain mimics also some sort of Pavlov behavior.
This would let you crave for more. It is the comforting and cuddling (the actual real love making) after that, that restores the mental balance and increases the desire to live (increasing energy). Having sex with people you do not care for, for the sake of orgasms only will result in losing the enjoyment of an orgasm and will result in more extreme sexual acts such as needing drugs or other ways.
 
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