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A message about StopFCC.Com from Scott
I started StopFCC.com because I'm tired of politicians standing up and talking about "Protecting our Freedom" one day, and then the next day they are pushing the FCC to fine a broadcaster millions of dollars over words that offend a few campaign contributors. A few large media companies and politicians get to decide what I can watch, read and listen to? I guess in this election year "Freedom" only means "Fighting Terrorism" and does not include the First Amendment.

Now the FCC is talking about trying to regulate cable and satellite? When did this country turn Communist? We need to tell the Government that this is NOT acceptable, and the only thing they seem to want to listen to is votes and money- especially in an election year.

The whole idea here is to collect a LOT of legitimate names, not like some of these other petitions that you see on the net that are more about advertising than making a difference. This is for real, we verify email addresses, and we ask for an "e-signature" (Made possible by legislation passed by President Clinton). When you sign this petition it's like signing a legal document. This is the real deal.

Once we get a lot of names, we plan on sending letters to politicians that say things like "Dear Senator ABC, based on the statistics from the petition at StopFCC.com, there are 12,345 people in your district that have pledged support for free speech and against further censorship. We urge you to reconsider the recent actions of the FCC and pledge your support for free speech. Show the voters you are serious about their first amendment rights." --- We have already had people from different governement servers looking at the petition- the more people that sign the petition the more attention we will get.

Help support the campaign. Sign the Petition and then tell as many people as you can about what we are trying to do.

Thank you for your support!

-Scott
-Email: webmaster -at- stopfcc.com

http://stopfcc.com/
 

Freejack2

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It's a bit of a dilemma for me on this.
While we should have freedom of speech, the argument is that kids can hear these public broadcasts and because of that there should be no swear words, slurs, or sexually suggestive material on these broadcasts. Technically any broadcast that is broadcast over the air (stuff on satellite or cable should be a different story as you have to pay to receive them) shouldn't contain anything that might be offensive or what a child shouldn't hear.
If anything technically the FCC should be far more strict about any material that is broadcast over the airwaves. Larger fines and jail sentences for these things.

If Howard Stern for example who broadcasts on public airwaves starts talking about sex on his show he should be taken off the air permanently, fined, and possibly sentenced to jail for it. Basically when it's public airwaves if Disney wouldn't show it then it shouldn't be on the public airwaves, cable and satellite only.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Dufman
Originally posted by: brxndxn
signed it

same.
fvck conservitives

Though I am conservative on economic issues this FCC crap is fvckin ridiculous. I'm ready to vote against Bush just because of it.
 

Freejack2

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So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?
 

Coquito

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
If Howard Stern for example who broadcasts on public airwaves starts talking about sex on his show he should be taken off the air permanently, fined, and possibly sentenced to jail for it. Basically when it's public airwaves if Disney wouldn't show it then it shouldn't be on the public airwaves, cable and satellite only.

He's been doing that for 20yrs. Hundreds of copycats since then. All of a sudden it's our nations #1 concern.

Signed it. I'll probably be blacklisted for something by the government.
 

NutBucket

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?

Change the fvckin' station:disgust: For the record, I started listening to Stern in 8th grade.
 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?

I neither expect nor want the government to be telling me or my kids (if I ever have them) what I can/can't see or hear. That's my job to do, not theirs.
 

hdeck

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unfotunately, the majority of the people in this country are for government invervention in which programs can be aired.
 

Coquito

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Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: Freejack2
So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?

I neither expect nor want the government to be telling me or my kids (if I ever have them) what I can/can't see or hear. That's my job to do, not theirs.

Bravo :beer::D
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: hdeck
unfotunately, the majority of the people in this country are for government invervention in which programs can be aired.

Not entirely true. The more accurate answer is that those that government listens to are against it (also happens to be the same group that votes).
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?

I hope you are planning on home schooling your kids.
The FCC is out of control. Not just with censorship, but with licensing the airwaves and a host of other maladies.
 

iwearnosox

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Trisha Blunier from Ft. Worth, TX (March 11th at 12:57AM)
Amamnda Hugnkiss from Springfield, IL (March 11th at 12:57AM) ??
Robert Schaefer from Cherry Hill, NJ (March 11th at 12:57AM)
Keilan Battles from Dallas, TX (March 11th at 12:57AM)
Scott McKnight from Gresham, OR (March 11th at 12:57AM)
 

Freejack2

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I as an adult like to listen to shows with more content that disney but on the same hand in this day and age it has for better or usually worse become the governments job to handle morality. So because of this it's now the FCC's job to make sure that anything that a kid could hear has been sanitized to disney levels. I may not agree with this but the people with power in this country have decided this and that is how it shall be. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't change it.

Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Freejack2
So basically you are saying that you want children to see and hear things that they shouldn't be exposed to?

I hope you are planning on home schooling your kids.
The FCC is out of control. Not just with censorship, but with licensing the airwaves and a host of other maladies.

 

79Blazer

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
It's a bit of a dilemma for me on this.
While we should have freedom of speech, the argument is that kids can hear these public broadcasts and because of that there should be no swear words, slurs, or sexually suggestive material on these broadcasts. Technically any broadcast that is broadcast over the air (stuff on satellite or cable should be a different story as you have to pay to receive them) shouldn't contain anything that might be offensive or what a child shouldn't hear.
If anything technically the FCC should be far more strict about any material that is broadcast over the airwaves. Larger fines and jail sentences for these things.

If Howard Stern for example who broadcasts on public airwaves starts talking about sex on his show he should be taken off the air permanently, fined, and possibly sentenced to jail for it. Basically when it's public airwaves if Disney wouldn't show it then it shouldn't be on the public airwaves, cable and satellite only.

EDIT: Nevermind. I think I mis-read what you were saying.
rolleye.gif
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Coquito
Originally posted by: Freejack2
If Howard Stern for example who broadcasts on public airwaves starts talking about sex on his show he should be taken off the air permanently, fined, and possibly sentenced to jail for it. Basically when it's public airwaves if Disney wouldn't show it then it shouldn't be on the public airwaves, cable and satellite only.

He's been doing that for 20yrs. Hundreds of copycats since then. All of a sudden it's our nations #1 concern.

Signed it. I'll probably be blacklisted for something by the government.

And the stations he broadcasts on have been fined previously for the same thing to the tune of $600,000.00 dollars. In the process of that he was able to make a nice chunk of cash by box setting the broadcasts in CD and tape format and selling the package with the title of "Crucified By The FCC".

Edit: Actually Infinity Broadcasting paid 1.7 million in fines in 1995 for various offenses accumulated against Stern over the years. The point of all of this is that he has not been broadcasting the same material for 20 years and all of a sudden the FCC decides to act. They have repeatedly taken actions to try to force Infinity to hold the line. And in fact anyone that has listened to the show over this long period of time knows that Infinity has put in place numerous people with delay buttons to try and prevent actionable material from going out over the air.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
I as an adult like to listen to shows with more content that disney but on the same hand in this day and age it has for better or usually worse become the governments job to handle morality.
It has not been and still is not the government's job to handle morality. Lazy morons have allowed certain entities to believe that is the case, but there is no constitutional mandate that says the government has to protect the children from the crap they are going to hear from the 5th graders when they are in first grade regardless of whether Howard Stern or any other radio DJ is saying it over the airwaves.

Protecting children is a parent's job.

So because of this it's now the FCC's job to make sure that anything that a kid could hear has been sanitized to disney levels. I may not agree with this but the people with power in this country have decided this and that is how it shall be. If you don't like it then too bad, you can't change it.

Do you live in America?
No one ever said it can change overnight or easily, but it can change.
 

Viper GTS

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I see only two options:

1) Completely eliminate government control of the airwaves. Anybody & everybody will be able to broadcast on any channel they want. Whoever can afford the most powerful transmitter wins.

2) Continue holding broadcasters to a standard that reflects public sentiment.

You're free to say & do whatever you want when it doesn't infringe upon others. Start a web site, hold meetings, whatever, but keep it off the air.

Cable & satellite obviously are totally different stories.

Viper GTS
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I see only two options:

1) Completely eliminate government control of the airwaves. Anybody & everybody will be able to broadcast on any channel they want. Whoever can afford the most powerful transmitter wins.

2) Continue holding broadcasters to a standard that reflects public sentiment.

You're free to say & do whatever you want when it doesn't infringe upon others. Start a web site, hold meetings, whatever, but keep it off the air.

Cable & satellite obviously are totally different stories.

Viper GTS

Regulating the technical aspects is completely different than dictating the morality of broadcasts. The two can be seperated.

The government should not a babysitter because parents are too worthless to take responsibility for what they have brought into the world. The government cannot dictate the moral standards we should live by. Yes, making murder and stealing illegal is one thing, but telling me what I can say is ridiculous.
 

NTB

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Freejack2
I as an adult like to listen to shows with more content that disney but on the same hand in this day and age it has for better or usually worse become the governments job to handle morality.
It has not been and still is not the government's job to handle morality. Lazy morons have allowed certain entities to believe that is the case, but there is no constitutional mandate that says the government has to protect the children from the crap they are going to hear from the 5th graders when they are in first grade regardless of whether Howard Stern or any other radio DJ is saying it over the airwaves.

Protecting children is a parent's job.

Amen to that. Sometimes I really get sick of the victim mentality that people seem to take; they always like to blame somebody else or lay responsibility elsewhere. It is not the government's job to regulate what your kids watch, it's yours.

EDIT: :beer: for Jzero and n0cmonkey :)

Nate