Stevia + fresh strawberries

SP33Demon

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FTMFW. Try it.

While I don't normally put sugar on my fruit, stevia + fresh fruit that is usually tart = win.
 

destrekor

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mmm does sound pretty tasty

which brand of stevia are you using? each one seems to have some difference in what they use alongside the reb-a.
 

SP33Demon

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mmm does sound pretty tasty

which brand of stevia are you using? each one seems to have some difference in what they use alongside the reb-a.

Extract in the Raw brand.
http://www.steviaextractintheraw.com/

They sell it at the local supermarket. I figured since it's not any extra calories, why not. It really adds another dimension to fruit that's tart, much like ground pepper to foods. Going to try it in my iced tea tonight, so far stevia > any sweetener on the market IMO.
 

gorcorps

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Strawberries aren't supposed to be tart... where the hell are you buying these things?
 

lxskllr

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ugh just eat them plain

^^^

People expect too much out of food. The better living through chemistry of the 50s and 60s ruined everybody's tastebuds. Everybody expects the flavor explosion of KoolAid, and is disappointed when something natural and delicious doesn't deliver that.
 

SP33Demon

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^^^

People expect too much out of food. The better living through chemistry of the 50s and 60s ruined everybody's tastebuds. Everybody expects the flavor explosion of KoolAid, and is disappointed when something natural and delicious doesn't deliver that.

So you don't put pepper on anything either? Sugar and sweeteners are just about as ubiquitous as pepper when you go out to eat. The difference is that places don't carry stevia (yet) and strictly that chemical nutrasweet crap. I'm already jealous of our grandkids who will have stevia at every table and live to be 120 years old.
 

destrekor

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why stevia

Why not?

I've been doing some learning, and really figuring out just how terrible sugar is for the human body. There is, almost quite literally, sugar in everything. Our body is not designed to consume that much sugar.

Next problem: most diet foods in the U.S. use other zero-calorie sweeteners that are just plain terrible. For a moment, let's pretend they all still tasted just like sugar, 100% the same. They do some crazy shit in the body that makes the body still produce insulin as if it were getting sugar. Most false sugars play havoc with our body's chemistry. And that's ignoring any potential harmful effects of the chemicals themselves. Still really unknown, and the cancer claims of saccharin (?) are exaggerated since the human kidneys don't have the same chemical environment within as the animals that developed tumors in testing many years ago. But I still don't buy they are entirely safe, yet to me that doesn't matter since the chemicals still mess with the body in the same ways sugar does - so it's zero calorie, but still just as bad in the long run.

Stevia is like nothing else out there - a good extract and with the right blends, it doesn't do a thing inside the body. It's "sweetness" trigger doesn't send the body into insulin production, somehow someway.. but that has been tested and completely confirmed.
That's enough for me.
And by not tricking the body to react the same way as sugar (or would that be the definition of tricking the body? :)), it helps keep the entire biochemistry system in check, which in the long run helps with blood pressure, glucose in-serum, and combined with a good diet is definitely beneficial.

Since it's basically a free treat, there is zero harm in using it. Still, the W.H.O. does suggest no more than 4mg of Reb-A extract per kg of body mass, which is really a massive amount since its relative sweetness is so damn strong (and thus why it's mixed with other carbs).

The one we are currently trialing in our household is SweetLeaf, which has 1g of Erythritol (sugar alcohol), and something else. A 2gram packet is equal to about 8 grams of sugar (2tsp), with zero calories.

I absolutely cannot wait until Coca Cola releases a Stevia-sweetened Coke. I cannot stand the taste of diet drinks, but a Coke Zero featuring Stevia? Should taste delicious.
 

Ika

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Strawberries aren't supposed to be tart... where the hell are you buying these things?

only perfect strawberries are only sweet, the rest are somewhat tart to really tart. My mouth is watering just thinking about it :\
 

destrekor

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only perfect strawberries are only sweet, the rest are somewhat tart to really tart. My mouth is watering just thinking about it :\

I actually like a strawberry to have a little bit of tartness. Would seem weird to have zero bite and only pure sweetness.
 

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Sounds too sweet, I like a little tartness in my berries.

KT
 

eits

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Why not?

I've been doing some learning, and really figuring out just how terrible sugar is for the human body. There is, almost quite literally, sugar in everything. Our body is not designed to consume that much sugar.

Next problem: most diet foods in the U.S. use other zero-calorie sweeteners that are just plain terrible. For a moment, let's pretend they all still tasted just like sugar, 100% the same. They do some crazy shit in the body that makes the body still produce insulin as if it were getting sugar. Most false sugars play havoc with our body's chemistry. And that's ignoring any potential harmful effects of the chemicals themselves. Still really unknown, and the cancer claims of saccharin (?) are exaggerated since the human kidneys don't have the same chemical environment within as the animals that developed tumors in testing many years ago. But I still don't buy they are entirely safe, yet to me that doesn't matter since the chemicals still mess with the body in the same ways sugar does - so it's zero calorie, but still just as bad in the long run.

Stevia is like nothing else out there - a good extract and with the right blends, it doesn't do a thing inside the body. It's "sweetness" trigger doesn't send the body into insulin production, somehow someway.. but that has been tested and completely confirmed.
That's enough for me.
And by not tricking the body to react the same way as sugar (or would that be the definition of tricking the body? :)), it helps keep the entire biochemistry system in check, which in the long run helps with blood pressure, glucose in-serum, and combined with a good diet is definitely beneficial.

Since it's basically a free treat, there is zero harm in using it. Still, the W.H.O. does suggest no more than 4mg of Reb-A extract per kg of body mass, which is really a massive amount since its relative sweetness is so damn strong (and thus why it's mixed with other carbs).

The one we are currently trialing in our household is SweetLeaf, which has 1g of Erythritol (sugar alcohol), and something else. A 2gram packet is equal to about 8 grams of sugar (2tsp), with zero calories.

I absolutely cannot wait until Coca Cola releases a Stevia-sweetened Coke. I cannot stand the taste of diet drinks, but a Coke Zero featuring Stevia? Should taste delicious.

there's already zevia out on the market... why don't you just buy that?
 

destrekor

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there's already zevia out on the market... why don't you just buy that?

I know it's out there, but I've never seen it. Might have to look at the Organic/Whole Foods section at the nearby Kroger to see if they have it there.

But in the end, it still comes down to the actual base product.
The only "cola" I like is Coke. I despise Pepsi. I dislike other colas.

And hell, Truvia is the consumer brand name for the Coca-Cola- and Cargill- produced Rebiana (tradename). PureVia is PepsiCo's brand of consumer sweetener.

So in short, both companies already have the sweetener at the ready, and they have both put the sweetener in some products iirc. They just haven't pushed out their main colas with the sweetener yet, and I have no idea what they are waiting for.
Probably investing in some crazy marketing plan.

When it comes to cola, I am picky. The way I see it, there is only Coke, and there are many imitations. ;)
I like some PepsiCo pops, but cannot stand their cola.
 

Squisher

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I like Stevita spoonable Stevia. It is more concentrated. I can do 1.5 gal. of ice tea with a level dinner spoon. If you get 2 through Amazon the shipping is free.
 

eits

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I know it's out there, but I've never seen it. Might have to look at the Organic/Whole Foods section at the nearby Kroger to see if they have it there.

But in the end, it still comes down to the actual base product.
The only "cola" I like is Coke. I despise Pepsi. I dislike other colas.

And hell, Truvia is the consumer brand name for the Coca-Cola- and Cargill- produced Rebiana (tradename). PureVia is PepsiCo's brand of consumer sweetener.

So in short, both companies already have the sweetener at the ready, and they have both put the sweetener in some products iirc. They just haven't pushed out their main colas with the sweetener yet, and I have no idea what they are waiting for.
Probably investing in some crazy marketing plan.

When it comes to cola, I am picky. The way I see it, there is only Coke, and there are many imitations. ;)
I like some PepsiCo pops, but cannot stand their cola.

just go to the organic isle at the grocery store... they'll have it.
 

evident

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Why not?

I've been doing some learning, and really figuring out just how terrible sugar is for the human body. There is, almost quite literally, sugar in everything. Our body is not designed to consume that much sugar.

Next problem: most diet foods in the U.S. use other zero-calorie sweeteners that are just plain terrible. For a moment, let's pretend they all still tasted just like sugar, 100% the same. They do some crazy shit in the body that makes the body still produce insulin as if it were getting sugar. Most false sugars play havoc with our body's chemistry. And that's ignoring any potential harmful effects of the chemicals themselves. Still really unknown, and the cancer claims of saccharin (?) are exaggerated since the human kidneys don't have the same chemical environment within as the animals that developed tumors in testing many years ago. But I still don't buy they are entirely safe, yet to me that doesn't matter since the chemicals still mess with the body in the same ways sugar does - so it's zero calorie, but still just as bad in the long run.

Stevia is like nothing else out there - a good extract and with the right blends, it doesn't do a thing inside the body. It's "sweetness" trigger doesn't send the body into insulin production, somehow someway.. but that has been tested and completely confirmed.
That's enough for me.
And by not tricking the body to react the same way as sugar (or would that be the definition of tricking the body? :)), it helps keep the entire biochemistry system in check, which in the long run helps with blood pressure, glucose in-serum, and combined with a good diet is definitely beneficial.

Since it's basically a free treat, there is zero harm in using it. Still, the W.H.O. does suggest no more than 4mg of Reb-A extract per kg of body mass, which is really a massive amount since its relative sweetness is so damn strong (and thus why it's mixed with other carbs).

The one we are currently trialing in our household is SweetLeaf, which has 1g of Erythritol (sugar alcohol), and something else. A 2gram packet is equal to about 8 grams of sugar (2tsp), with zero calories.

I absolutely cannot wait until Coca Cola releases a Stevia-sweetened Coke. I cannot stand the taste of diet drinks, but a Coke Zero featuring Stevia? Should taste delicious.

stevia is still an artificial sweetener isn't it? i'd rather just not have any at all. strawberies are already good as is!
 

SP33Demon

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stevia is still an artificial sweetener isn't it? i'd rather just not have any at all. strawberies are already good as is!

No, stevia is a natural sweetener. They've been using it in Japan for the past 40 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia
Stevia is a genus of about 240 species of herbs and shrubs in the sunflower family (Asteraceae), native to subtropical and tropical regions from western North America to South America. The species Stevia rebaudiana, commonly known as sweetleaf, sweet leaf, sugarleaf, or simply stevia, is widely grown for its sweet leaves. As a sweetener and sugar substitute, stevia's taste has a slower onset and longer duration than that of sugar, although some of its extracts may have a bitter or licorice-like aftertaste at high concentrations.

With its extracts having up to 300 times the sweetness of sugar, stevia has garnered attention with the rise in demand for low-carbohydrate, low-sugar food alternatives. Medical research has also shown possible benefits of stevia in treating obesity and high blood pressure. Because stevia has a negligible effect on blood glucose, it is attractive as a natural sweetener to people on carbohydrate-controlled diets.

The FDA had banned it in 1991 because of allegedly falsified claims of cancer by the artificial sweetener industry (saccharin, nutrasweet). Of course now that Pepsi and Coke have seen demand for it, it has suddenly attained GRAS by the FDA.
 

SP33Demon

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I like Stevita spoonable Stevia. It is more concentrated. I can do 1.5 gal. of ice tea with a level dinner spoon. If you get 2 through Amazon the shipping is free.

I'm going to have to check that out and compare prices vs what I got at the supermarket, thanks for the info.
 

destrekor

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No, stevia is a natural sweetener. They've been using it in Japan for the past 40 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia


The FDA had banned it in 1991 because of allegedly falsified claims of cancer by the artificial sweetener industry (saccharin, nutrasweet). Of course now that Pepsi and Coke have seen demand for it, it has suddenly attained GRAS by the FDA.


And what's really funny, is almost all of the Stevia products that are sold as sweeteners have some kind of simple carbohydrate, from corn, as a filler.
The Corn people, I swear, have the craziest, most mob-like lobby in this country.