Steam should introduce Crypto mining software into their client - hear me out.

[shortylickens]

 

[DigDog]

you know, i was playing Quake Champions on my RX590 and the ridiculous stuttering that comes from its absolutely nonexistent optimization made think exactly this, "what i need is MORE stuff taking up CPU cycles".

 

[DaaQ]

If it ended up making anything like Nicehash (or if they partnered, but honestly, I don't see that much happening, since Nicehash is a non-US company), NH makes like $0.50-$1.00 / day on a GTX 1650 card. Better cards make more. My 5700XT makes $3-4/day.

Assuming a GTX 1650 card, and 90 days, that would be 90 dollars, if Steam took 30-33% of the cut, that would leave $60 every three months to buy AAA (or any, really) games with. (* Not financial advice, just posing a hypothetical here.)

Granted, you can do this now with Nicehash, just remember to start it when you stop gaming, and vice-versa, and you can get a bag of BTC, cash it out for USD, and stuff it into your Paypal and buy Steam games that way. In fact, I'm sure that some people already do that. But if that could be accomplished entirely within the Steam universe, then so much the better.

I get that the "miner hate" is real, though, but there are probably a good number of gamer/intro miner types, that just want to pay off their (overly-) expensive 30-series GPUs.

What is your energy usage per day? if you don't mind my asking.
Because for me, Friday (which would have been the previous day's usage) was $4.01 for all normal stuff running in my home. The last Sunday was $6.22, obviously washer and dryer had been ran that day.

Using the two examples I gave, Sunday was 9.32 cents per kWh and the Friday one was 8.47 cents per kWh.
The rates change daily, I'm in a co-op there is no other provider. Years ago is when they got me onto their pre-pay program. Which back then was .33 cents a day fee attached to it. And 30% of all money you put in went to the outstanding bill. Once you get the old bill payed off, all goes towards the electric but you still have 33 cents a day fee.

The problem was when I tried to get back to paying monthly.
Yes you need a deposit which is the sum of your last 3 months of usage, and some other catch 22 they had in their to make sure you couldn't or wouldn't. I remember mine was something around 1500 or more to change back to paying monthly.

I wonder if the monthly people can get text messages of their daily usage? That alone had made me more aware of my power usage. And no I do not have a mining rig not even a gaming rig anymore.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I don't pay the electric separately, but if I had to guess, about $10/day to run everything. Thing is, these apts have electric baseboard heat, so if I run the rigs, in theory, the heat shouldn't need to come on, and effectively makes the power cost during the colder months, free.

 

[DaaQ]

I don't pay the electric separately, but if I had to guess, about $10/day to run everything. Thing is, these apts have electric baseboard heat, so if I run the rigs, in theory, the heat shouldn't need to come on, and effectively makes the power cost during the colder months, free.

I really really tried back when the R290x was about to release to talk my wife into letting me make a hot room. IE several gpu rigs.

Shoulda Coulda Woulda, but didn't and wound up with a GTX780, regrets regrets.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I was surprised the other day when my Norton 360 flashed me an ad that said I could run a miner that you can now buy and is integrated in the Anti-Virus 360 Suite and will run in the background. It's called Norton Crypto. Go figure.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I was surprised the other day when my Norton 360 flashed me an ad that said I could run a miner that you can now buy and is integrated in the Anti-Virus 360 Suite and will run in the background. It's called Norton Crypto. Go figure.

Good of you to bring that up, yes, of all things/software, Norton has "integrated" crypto-mining into their ANTI-VIRUS software. Ostensibly to allow for "safe" crypto-mining, because people "trust" Norton. Of course, they're probably making a percentage, fees, etc. It can be very lucrative. Which is one reason why I suggested that Steam integrate it as well.

 

[Shmee]

I don't really think they should have mining on steam, unless maybe as a separate software you could buy that you would know to be safe? Kinda like 3Dmark, for instance. It is not a game, but is included on steam as software. I suppose I would be open to that as a separate product/download.

I would like it if steam accepted BTC or ETH or other crypto, however. The more options for payments, the better.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I don't really think they should have mining on steam, unless maybe as a separate software you could buy that you would know to be safe? Kinda like 3Dmark, for instance. It is not a game, but is included on steam as software. I suppose I would be open to that as a separate product/download.

"The Steam miner".

I would like it if steam accepted BTC or ETH or other crypto, however. The more options for payments, the better.

That would be nice.

Maybe they should go all-out, and have their own SteamCoin, and Steam Wallet, and Steam Miner.

 

[Furious_Styles]

"The Steam miner".

That would be nice.

Maybe they should go all-out, and have their own SteamCoin, and Steam Wallet, and Steam Miner.

I would think so many people would be pissed off about steam encouraging more mining that it wouldn't be worth their time/effort.

I personally wouldn't use it because why would I give Valve more money when it is so easy these days to mine?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Oh for god's sake I come to the gaming forum to get away from Larry and now he's here.

How long before every thread in this forum is about mining too?

He's more infectious then the damn Delta variant

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448713803680473089

lmao

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448713803680473089

lmao

Well, Steam just consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. RIP.

Blockchain is the future of the internet/web, and if Steam truely wants to be an "internet gaming service", then they should embrace blockchain technology, and not reject it.

The internet is evolving, and Steam is no longer evolving with it.

 

[UsandThem]

Well, Steam just consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. RIP.

Blockchain is the future of the internet/web, and if Steam truely wants to be an "internet gaming service", then they should embrace blockchain technology, and not reject it.

The internet is evolving, and Steam is no longer evolving with it.

Strange, as that makes me like Steam a little bit more.

 

[quikah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1448713803680473089

lmao

First off, holy sh*t it took forever to figure this out. Why are all these crypto "games" so convoluted...

So this is a single player game with a bunch of microtranactions to get missions and items. Game is in beta, which is free, but it says the finished game will cost $, but doesn't divulge how much. I am going to guess that the game is never released. So you can buy a mission for ~80 - 700 ENJ (seems like multiple different sellers). Go through several sites I finally found on coinbase that an ENJ is $1.71. So to get 1 mission you need to pay $130 - $1K. There are 8 missions in the game currently plus 2 special missions where you can get BTC (those sell for much more). Basically what I am saying is, nothing was lost.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ubisoft to embrace crypto, NFTs, in future games.

 

[Stg-Flame]

Hey look, yet another reason to not use UPlay.

 

[ultimatebob]

The new version of Nicehash apparently detects that you have a Steam game running and pauses the miner automatically.

That's a nice feature, but that's about all of the "Steam integration" I'd be interested in seeing. The world really doesn't need millions more crypto miners added to the mining pools. Not only are they wasting electricity, they would be driving up mining difficulty and lowering profits for everyone else.

 

[nakedfrog]

No, no, a thousand times no.

NFTs can go away too.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Just heard about salad.io , another sort of background mining software, where you earn towards giftcards (Yes, they have Steam, as well as Roblox, and Amazon).

 

[GodisanAtheist]

No, no, a thousand times no.

NFTs can go away too.

-Funny thing about that meme is that the "jump to conclusions" mat ends up actually being a huge success. So in a way, you're telling Larry/Steam to go for it...

I mean, if Steam did this and focused all of the computing power on the platform towards one crypto, a couple things would happen:

A) power grids around the world would fail overnight, a catastrophe that might actually force government hands in limiting crypto.

B) the difficulty curve on whatever crypto steam targets would go hyperbolic overnight as well, hugely devaluing the currency, mining the currency would be unprofitable right away (and perhaps impossible with the failed grids), and there would be a huge run on the currency as everyone tried to get out at once.

So maybe it's not a *bad* idea for a whole different set of reasons....

 

[nakedfrog]

-Funny thing about that meme is that the "jump to conclusions" mat ends up actually being a huge success. So in a way, you're telling Larry/Steam to go for it...

Hm, I don't remember that part, I remember the guy getting a bunch of money from his car accident, and finally designing the mat...

 

[VirtualLarry]

The Truth About Norton 360’s Crypto Miner | The Fintech Times

Norton: VPNs, LifeLock, Cloud backup and parental controls. But a crypto miner? Something's not quite right.

thefintechtimes.com

Norton Crypto, a bit of a hit piece.

LTT rails against Norton Crypto!

 

[AdamK47]

Gaben's thoughts of NFT/Cryptocurrencies on his platform.

Gabe Newell explains why Steam banned NFTs

Amidst bumper acquisitions and a multitude of mega new releases, NFTs have garnered many headlines across the industry …

www.eurogamer.net

"The things that were being done were super sketchy," Newell told Eurogamer. "And there was some illegal shit that was going on behind the scenes, and you're just like, yeah, this is bad. Blockchains as a technology are a great technology, that the ways in which has been utilised are currently are all pretty sketchy. And you sort of want to stay away from that.

"We have the same problem when we're accepting cryptocurrencies, 50 percent of the cryptocurrency paid for transactions were fraudulent, right? You look at that and you're like, well, that's bad. And then cryptocurrency volatility meant that people had no idea what price that they were actually paying. Yes, they were anchored to a cryptocurrency, but most people's wages are not in cryptocurrencies.

"So they're like, how come I just paid $498 US dollars for this product? And if the answer is, you know, that's what happens when you have a highly volatile currency that you're paying for. That's like, today, you paid 99 cents for it tomorrow, you're going to pay $498 for and people that make people super cranky. So it just wasn't a good method. The people who are currently active in that space are not usually good actors."

 

[AdamK47]

The Truth About Norton 360’s Crypto Miner | The Fintech Times

Norton: VPNs, LifeLock, Cloud backup and parental controls. But a crypto miner? Something's not quite right.

thefintechtimes.com

Norton Crypto, a bit of a hit piece.

LTT rails against Norton Crypto!

Norton has been cozy with dark patterns in terms of monitizing their software for years. Their crypto mining implementation shenanigans isn't something outside of their playbook.