Steam Exploration Sale (Nov 26 - Dec 1 2015)

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Blue_Max

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75% off isn't enough? Shoot now, it's very unlikely to go any lower.

There's a couple other goodies on at 75% off I'm jumping on as spare copies to give the kids at christmas.
 

norseamd

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75% off isn't enough? Shoot now, it's very unlikely to go any lower.

There's a couple other goodies on at 75% off I'm jumping on as spare copies to give the kids at christmas.

Not suggesting it is not enough at all, but if it might be cheaper at Christmas then I might as well wait. Also the real game is not 75% off, only the bait for DLC is 75% off. Not that the base game alone is not good, but I am assuming after this many years that the full edition with all DLC is required for most mods available.
 

Seba

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but I am assuming after this many years that the full edition with all DLC is required for most mods available
This is correct. Do not buy the base game, because most important mods require all DLCs (and to buy the DLCs afterwards will be much more expensive).

In 2013 Summer Sale they discounted Fallout 3 GOTY and Fallout New Vegas Ultimate editions with 75% off, the same percent as the base games. That did not happened since then. 66% off that they have now is not that far from 75% and you risk to not see the same 66% discount during Holiday Sale.
 

ImpulsE69

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If anyone is interested - Transformers Devistation is $18 at GMG. That's a great price on a decent game that just came out not long ago. Saw it over at SD, it doesn't seem to show up in their normal advertisements.
 

futurefields

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Alpha Protocol
Binary Domain
Transformers: War For Cybertron
Penny Arcade's On The Rain Slick Precipice of Darkness Vol. 3 & 4
Breath of Death VII
Cthulhu Saves The World
Killer Is Dead
 

sweenish

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This sale format sucks. I looked at it 5 minutes after going live and have not been back. With the daily and flash sales I would be anxious to open it up several times a day to see what was on sale and would most likely make an impulse buy or two. Not this time, no reason. Hopefully they go back to the old format for the christmas sale.

So you're saying that you're easily manipulated into giving your money away.

I'm fine with this format of sale. I'm just working on my backlog. No point in me buying something unless I plan on playing it right away.
 

adamantine.me

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I haven't bought anything on Steam in ages... As much as I like having a library of games, I'd rather have less new games appear for higher quality games and developers that stick with their creations for more than a year.
 

maevinj

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So you're saying that you're easily manipulated into giving your money away.

I'm fine with this format of sale. I'm just working on my backlog. No point in me buying something unless I plan on playing it right away.

I personally liked the flash and daily sales. Sometimes I would see games I'd never heard of and for cheap. Like the other poster said. I checked out the sale when it first started and haven't been back since.
 

local

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So you're saying that you're easily manipulated into giving your money away.

I'm fine with this format of sale. I'm just working on my backlog. No point in me buying something unless I plan on playing it right away.

No, not exactly. Perhaps "impulse" was the wrong word to use. What I mean is that for this sale I looked at stuff on my wishlist to see if anything hit my buy price and did a quick scan of the front page then I was done. I did not bother sorting through dozens games and looking into all of them.

On a standard sale you get a few games on the greatest discount at a time. That is a small enough number that I will look into something I may not know of and given the correct price I may buy it.

Thus on a standard sale I will actually look into games I do not already know about instead of just walk away. In fact most of my wishlist items got on there from researching items on flash or daily sales that did not meet my price point at the time.

I would guess that the number of overall sales will be down from the average and the number of sales for lesser known games will be much less than usual due to there not being a spotlight on them.

I know they have highlighted deals at the top of the front page but if the price is the same I'm not going to bother logging on and looking because the draw is to find something I already want at the price I want. This sale negates the need to check back in.
 

ControlD

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I'm happy enough. I picked up the Dawnguard DLC for Skyrim on the first day so my gaming time is set for awhile. At $4.99 (compared to the normal price of $19.99) that is quite a decent discount. Trying to play Witcher 3 on and off over the last month made me realize I would rather be playing Skyrim I guess.
 

sweenish

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I personally liked the flash and daily sales. Sometimes I would see games I'd never heard of and for cheap. Like the other poster said. I checked out the sale when it first started and haven't been back since.

No, not exactly. Perhaps "impulse" was the wrong word to use. What I mean is that for this sale I looked at stuff on my wishlist to see if anything hit my buy price and did a quick scan of the front page then I was done. I did not bother sorting through dozens games and looking into all of them.

On a standard sale you get a few games on the greatest discount at a time. That is a small enough number that I will look into something I may not know of and given the correct price I may buy it.

Thus on a standard sale I will actually look into games I do not already know about instead of just walk away. In fact most of my wishlist items got on there from researching items on flash or daily sales that did not meet my price point at the time.

I would guess that the number of overall sales will be down from the average and the number of sales for lesser known games will be much less than usual due to there not being a spotlight on them.

I know they have highlighted deals at the top of the front page but if the price is the same I'm not going to bother logging on and looking because the draw is to find something I already want at the price I want. This sale negates the need to check back in.

You both realize that different games have been featured every day, right? Prices may not be changing, but they're still surfacing other stuff.

And I still fail to see how being manipulated is a plus.

The flip is also that, if Steam has to show you stuff, you probably could have saved some money.
 
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Homerboy

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picked up City Skylines, and two copies of Gary's Mod for my kids to play.
Final bit on CoH2 too.
 

Craig234

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I personally liked the flash and daily sales. Sometimes I would see games I'd never heard of and for cheap. Like the other poster said. I checked out the sale when it first started and haven't been back since.

Like I said earlier, the 'queue' feature is a big help for finding games you didn't know.

My wishlist has gone from a few to dozens. Some are on the front page now.

Like 'The Art of Decadence' and 'Renowned Explorers'.

Others like Kholat (walking simulator/horror lost in Russian mountains), or Sword Coast Legends (Forgotten Realms D&D).
 

norseamd

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You both realize that different games have been featured every day, right? Prices may not be changing, but they're still surfacing other stuff.

And I still fail to see how being manipulated is a plus.

The flip is also that, if Steam has to show you stuff, you probably could have saved some money.

They are all just another version of Cypher, mad because they were made aware of the shadows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axARKd24eHo
 

local

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You both realize that different games have been featured every day, right? Prices may not be changing, but they're still surfacing other stuff.

And I still fail to see how being manipulated is a plus.

The flip is also that, if Steam has to show you stuff, you probably could have saved some money.

If there is no chance of the games I already know I want being cheaper then I have no reason to check in daily. Finding new stuff is a side effect and one of the primary reasons companies create sales in the first place. I do not care enough to check in just to see if any of the new featured stuff I don't know about is interesting.

Before Steam I bought thousands of dollars of games at retail prices. After Steam I bought thousands of dollars of games at Steam sale prices. The only difference is I spent much less money per game than I would have otherwise and found dozens of new games to try out.

Also I am not looking for a life coach here just voicing my opinion on the new sale format. At no point did I complain about prices or spending too much money. But by all means the day I complain about being broke due to a gaming addiction please feel free to bring this thread back up.
 

norseamd

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or Sword Coast Legends (Forgotten Realms D&D).

Do you have the old IE games like BG, ID, and Planescape? And even more important do you have the old NWN games that do the same thing as Sword Coast Legends?

General opinion is that Sword Coast Legends is not that great, and a mere shadow of the old NWN games, which had much more gameplay value, and also much nicer for running multiplayer campaigns with DM tools and such.
 

maevinj

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You both realize that different games have been featured every day, right? Prices may not be changing, but they're still surfacing other stuff.

And I still fail to see how being manipulated is a plus.

The flip is also that, if Steam has to show you stuff, you probably could have saved some money.

My point is, without the flash and daily sales, I have no reason to go check the steam store every so often. Steam is losing out on my impulse buys. So yes I am saving money, but Steam is losing money. It's not being manipulated, if you understand what is going on.
 

Homerboy

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Those complaining and/or saying Steam is stupid for doing it this way...

I assure you their sales and marketing department knows what they are doing and have analyzed every which way to sell people things. Maybe this sale technique doesn't work for YOU personally, but I'm guessing they will still be OK without your purchase.
 

local

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Those complaining and/or saying Steam is stupid for doing it this way...

I assure you their sales and marketing department knows what they are doing and have analyzed every which way to sell people things. Maybe this sale technique doesn't work for YOU personally, but I'm guessing they will still be OK without your purchase.

You are absolutely correct. I am sure the marketing department at Steam is better than me at determining the value of their sale. All I am saying is that for the first sale in years I am not buying anything.

I'm sure they will review the data after the sale is compete and compare it to previous fall sales in both total revenue and total sales. Individual companies will also probably review their results if Steam does not help them with that. I believe that is why they tried a new format during the fall sale which is typically the smaller sale compared to the xmas or summer sales.

If when this is over they decide to move to this format for all sales I guess I will just have to try and adapt but it will probably just mean I buy less small market games.
 

Seba

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All I am saying is that for the first sale in years I am not buying anything.
Maybe it is because the discounts are not big enough for you, not because the discounts do not change every day.
 

local

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Maybe it is because the discounts are not big enough for you, not because the discounts do not change every day.
It's true, of the ~30 games on my wish list only 1 made it to my buy it now price. And it will be there on the xmas sale as well so I will wait.

The point I was making earlier is that if the sales changed every day then I would be looking every day. When looking every day I would probably find a few games that I did not know about, mostly indie type stuff, that I would be interested in and either buy or put on my wish list.

Even now I'm positive there is something that I would buy on sale but I don't know about it and am not going to be bothered to search through almost 10,000 games to find something.
 

maevinj

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It's true, of the ~30 games on my wish list only 1 made it to my buy it now price. And it will be there on the xmas sale as well so I will wait.

The point I was making earlier is that if the sales changed every day then I would be looking every day. When looking every day I would probably find a few games that I did not know about, mostly indie type stuff, that I would be interested in and either buy or put on my wish list.

Even now I'm positive there is something that I would buy on sale but I don't know about it and am not going to be bothered to search through almost 10,000 games to find something.

Exactly!
 

sweenish

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If there is no chance of the games I already know I want being cheaper then I have no reason to check in daily. Finding new stuff is a side effect and one of the primary reasons companies create sales in the first place. I do not care enough to check in just to see if any of the new featured stuff I don't know about is interesting.

So maybe don't use it as an argument for your point?
 

Craig234

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Do you have the old IE games like BG, ID, and Planescape? And even more important do you have the old NWN games that do the same thing as Sword Coast Legends?

General opinion is that Sword Coast Legends is not that great, and a mere shadow of the old NWN games, which had much more gameplay value, and also much nicer for running multiplayer campaigns with DM tools and such.

Ya, I have them all, and expect I'll play them if I'm going to play this type of game for now - I didn't get Sword Coast Legends yet. But nice to know it's for sale.
 

Aikouka

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If anyone is interested - Transformers Devistation is $18 at GMG. That's a great price on a decent game that just came out not long ago. Saw it over at SD, it doesn't seem to show up in their normal advertisements.

They're out of keys. :'(