State department staff constantly berated for "disloyalty"

[woolfe9998]

6-8 times per day. This is why conservatives constantly accuse us of discriminating against people with their views. It's projection. Because they know that whenever they runs things, It's exactly what they do.

Also, this is precisely how authoritarian regimes behave. See below.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/poli...chdog-report-political-retaliation/index.html

"Nearly every employee interviewed by OIG raised concerns about the leadership of IO and the treatment of staff," according to the report released Thursday by the State Department Office of Inspector General.
The bureau's leaders labeled some employees "traitors," if they felt they didn't support President Donald Trump. They berated others for following procedures, punished staff for not doing work the department's Office of the Legal Adviser had deemed "inappropriate" and targeted others for retaliation, in one case because of a staffer's "relationship with the gay and lesbian community."
The concerns are largely centered around Mari Stull -- the "Vino Vixen" wine blogger lobbyist turned Trump administration appointee in IO -- and IO Assistant Secretary Kevin Moley.

Six to eight hostile interactions per day'
"Although some IO employees reported that they had never witnessed Assistant Secretary Moley or Ms. Stull behave unprofessionally, the majority of employees OIG interviewed either directly experienced hostile treatment or witnessed such treatment directed at others," the report said. "In fact, one IO employee told OIG that working with Ms. Stull involved 'six to eight hostile interactions per day.'"

Stull left the department in January 2019; Moley remains in his post. Moley participated in an interview with the OIG, but Stull declined.

The report cited numerous examples of Stull and Moley berating employees for following established department procedures for tasks ranging from sending briefings to booking travel accommodations.

Stull and Moley also "made inappropriate accusations of disloyalty and made positive or negative comments about employees based on perceived political views," according to the report.

"For example, several career employees reported that throughout her tenure at the Department, Ms. Stull referred to them or to other career employees as 'Obama holdovers,' 'traitors,' or 'disloyal,'" the report said. "Other career employees told OIG that Ms. Stull accused them of being part of the 'Deep State' and that the Assistant Secretary accused them of 'undermining the President's agenda.'"

 

[JSt0rm]

the chuds dont care.

 

[whm1974]

Sounds like a major workplace harassment lawsuit for the State Department once Trump is out of office.

 

[fskimospy]

6-8 times per day. This is why conservatives constantly accuse us of discriminating against people with their views. It's projection. Because they know that whenever they runs things, It's exactly what they do.

Also, this is precisely how authoritarian regimes behave. See below.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/poli...chdog-report-political-retaliation/index.html

Exactly. Conservatives constantly accuse liberals of this sort of bias because they just assume everyone else is as corrupt as they are.

 

[esquared]

Get the lipstick pig out of office and a lot of this would change. They would no longer feel
emboldened to act they way they do.

Also, with the orange pus bag gone, these ridiculously unqualified people in the administration would be gone.
People wonder why there is a clusterfuck in this admin? Just look at the number of
people that have no business being in their positions.

 

[Victorian Gray]

6-8 times per day. This is why conservatives constantly accuse us of discriminating against people with their views. It's projection. Because they know that whenever they runs things, It's exactly what they do.

Also, this is precisely how authoritarian regimes behave. See below.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/poli...chdog-report-political-retaliation/index.html

The US State Dept still has staff?

 

[whm1974]

The US State Dept still has staff?

I'm surprised that they haven't quit already, oh wait they will just get replaced with Trump supporters.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I'm surprised that they haven't quit already, oh wait they will just get replaced with Trump supporters.

The process started as soon as the present administration took over.

The Hollowing Out of the State Department Continues

The agency lost 12 percent of its foreign-affairs specialists in the first eight months of the Trump administration.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...tillerson-trump-state-foreign-service/553034/

Almost Half the Top Jobs in Trump’s State Department Are Still Empty

In 18 countries, the White House has yet to designate a U.S. ambassador. That includes Australia, a close ally to America that is beginning to look to China instead.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...partment-empty-ambassador-to-australi/574831/

Passport Processing at State Slows as Staffing Levels Fall

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2...sing-state-slows-staffing-levels-fall/159141/

State Department Vacancies Increase Embassy Security Risks, Report Warns

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/0...increase-embassy-security-risks-report-warns/

 

[kage69]

Same kind of treatment and political purging we saw in the Cheney/Bush days, this is how republicans operate now. 'Disagree with us and you hate America,' just another flavor of party before country really.

Really looks petty and shameful compared to Obama keeping republican people due to merit. Fox Noise has infected all three branches of government, rot goes all the way to the top. Sad.

 

[Jhhnn]

Putin's boys are so proud of the work they've done on behalf of Trump, rightfully so. He may actually be exceeding their expectations in destroying the govt of the people.

 

[sandorski]

Record and Release to the Press.

 

[Paratus]

The process started as soon as the present administration took over.

The Hollowing Out of the State Department Continues

The agency lost 12 percent of its foreign-affairs specialists in the first eight months of the Trump administration.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...tillerson-trump-state-foreign-service/553034/

Almost Half the Top Jobs in Trump’s State Department Are Still Empty

In 18 countries, the White House has yet to designate a U.S. ambassador. That includes Australia, a close ally to America that is beginning to look to China instead.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...partment-empty-ambassador-to-australi/574831/

Passport Processing at State Slows as Staffing Levels Fall

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2...sing-state-slows-staffing-levels-fall/159141/

State Department Vacancies Increase Embassy Security Risks, Report Warns

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/0...increase-embassy-security-risks-report-warns/

Since the trumpers idea of leadership is basically Scar from Lion King, outside of the judiciary this will be the other long term damage done. It will take the next administration quite a while to rebuild these departments.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Since the trumpers idea of leadership is basically Scar from Lion King, outside of the judiciary this will be the other long term damage done. It will take the next administration quite a while to rebuild these departments.

The entire govt is being hollowed out while the judiciary is being stuffed and the population directed into the appropriate seating areas, 'partisan right', 'partisan left' (or what passes for a left in the US) and 'turned off everyone else so I can't be arsed to vote' - that's where most of the important manipulation comes into play. The fewer the voters, the easier the game.

I'd say even if he loses the next election, and I'm not convinced he will, it's gonna take decades, if not longer, to recover any semblance of what was before.

Personally, I believe that this last election has changed both the US and the world (which is dealing with it's own hard right issues) and we're all off on a whole new adventure. I don't believe there is a recovery to be had. Kansas is gone, those slippers have faded and the heels no longer click.

 

[Perknose]

The Trump administration is a disgusting disaster on every level and in every way. This shit infuriates me.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The Trump administration is a disgusting disaster on every level and in every way. This shit infuriates me.

Fascists do have a way of making a lot of folks feel like that. Especially when they're actually getting away with their shit.

 

[DrDoug]

The problem Hair Furor has exposed with our form of government is that it depends on good, honorable people, something that the Republican party is lacking. Republicans have become secure in their seats due to pandering and gerrymandering, allowing crooked and/or craven individuals to win seats. People who only care about their wallet and the power they accumulate. They know that they can't do anything about their leader without jeopardizing their personal gravy train, so they are more than willing to let him rampage until the day comes that they have to declare that he has gone too far.

I think that's when he has gay sex in the middle of the 5th Avenue... catcher, of course.

 

[BoomerD]

The problem Hair Furor has exposed with our form of government is that it depends on good, honorable people, something that the Republican party is lacking. Republicans have become secure in their seats due to pandering and gerrymandering, allowing crooked and/or craven individuals to win seats. People who only care about their wallet and the power they accumulate. They know that they can't do anything about their leader without jeopardizing their personal gravy train, so they are more than willing to let him rampage until the day comes that they have to declare that he has gone too far.

I think that's when he has gay sex in the middle of the 5th Avenue... catcher, of course.

King Donnie the Dotard could slaughter a schoolbus full of little girls, then have gay sex on tope of their corpses in the middle of Fifth Ave, on Fox News...and his supporters would find a way to blame it all on those evil libruls.

 

[WelshBloke]

Personally, I believe that this last election has changed both the US and the world (which is dealing with it's own hard right issues) and we're all off on a whole new adventure. I don't believe there is a recovery to be had. Kansas is gone, those slippers have faded and the heels no longer click.

I think that its certainly changed the way that the World deals with the US. Countries that are traditionally close to the US are much less likely to go along with US wants than before.

 

[whm1974]

Since the trumpers idea of leadership is basically Scar from Lion King, outside of the judiciary this will be the other long term damage done. It will take the next administration quite a while to rebuild these departments.

Hopefully we will not see another GOP POTUS or Congress critters for at least four Presidents, each serving two terms.

 

[woolfe9998]

Same kind of treatment and political purging we saw in the Cheney/Bush days, this is how republicans operate now. 'Disagree with us and you hate America,' just another flavor of party before country really.

Really looks petty and shameful compared to Obama keeping republican people due to merit. Fox Noise has infected all three branches of government, rot goes all the way to the top. Sad.

You sure it isn't worse now? I never heard anything quite like this during the Bush years.

 

[kage69]

You sure it isn't worse now? I never heard anything quite like this during the Bush years.

Same thing, just a much more strident, even cult like tenacity to it, yes. Hold overs from the Reagan and Bush Sr days back then were republican yet not insane or traitors, and Fox's integration with the GOP was in it's infancy. Defintely worse now, I'm just saying it's nothing new.

 

[JSt0rm]

The process started as soon as the present administration took over.

The Hollowing Out of the State Department Continues

The agency lost 12 percent of its foreign-affairs specialists in the first eight months of the Trump administration.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...tillerson-trump-state-foreign-service/553034/

Almost Half the Top Jobs in Trump’s State Department Are Still Empty

In 18 countries, the White House has yet to designate a U.S. ambassador. That includes Australia, a close ally to America that is beginning to look to China instead.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...partment-empty-ambassador-to-australi/574831/

Passport Processing at State Slows as Staffing Levels Fall

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2...sing-state-slows-staffing-levels-fall/159141/

State Department Vacancies Increase Embassy Security Risks, Report Warns

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/0...increase-embassy-security-risks-report-warns/

This is the shit that helps russia.

 

[tweaker2]

The jist of Trump's relationship with State Dept.:


State Dept.: "But Mr. President, you can't isolate yourself from your stalwart allies that we've had solidarity with since WWII in order to two-step with our sworn enemies that have every intention to bring us down so as to get on top of us and hammer us down to where they are now. If they're pissed of at us it means we're doing something right and we've got'um just where we want'um."

Trump: "Eh, fuck off. I KNOW what I'm doing, do you? We have to appear to be friendly to get what we want from them. This balance of power crap you guys are so paranoid about just gets in my way of doing things the way I like. I got those suckers eating out of the palm my hand like giving puppy dogs a chocolate treat."

(yes I know about dogs and chocolates. I'm damn sure Trump doesn't)

 

[Moonbeam]

Berating others for disloyalty and having Stockholm Syndrome go hand in hand.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Same thing, just a much more strident, even cult like tenacity to it, yes. Hold overs from the Reagan and Bush Sr days back then were republican yet not insane or traitors, and Fox's integration with the GOP was in it's infancy. Defintely worse now, I'm just saying it's nothing new.

There's some similarities, but what Turmp's administration has done and is doing is different.

Since the trumpers idea of leadership is basically Scar from Lion King, outside of the judiciary this will be the other long term damage done. It will take the next administration quite a while to rebuild these departments.

It will take decades and multiple administrations to undo the damage being done in just this specific situation.