State department: Hillary did not comply with policies

[soundforbjt]

"At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

It is not a stretch to connect that violating a policy implemented in accordance with law is by extension a violation of said law

Link to said "law"?

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

"At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

It is not a stretch to connect that violating a policy implemented in accordance with law is by extension a violation of said law

Let us ignore that and instead focus on something Trump said 20 years ago that might be interpreted as mean.

 

[soundforbjt]

Let us ignore that and instead focus on something Trump said 20 years ago that might be interpreted as mean.

You mean like drumpf focusing on Bill's adventures from 20 years ago?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Link to said "law"?

The State Department quote I provided clearly mentions the Federal Records Act. Where it gets fuzzy is the timing of updates to this law as it relates to electronic records relative to the setup of Clintons server:

"In December 2014, the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014 was signed into law by President Barack Obama. This bipartisan act, which followed the 2011 President's Memorandum on Managing Government Records, modernizes the Federal Records Act."

The 2014 update clearly doesn't impact Clinton, but there may be implications from the 2011 Memorandum. This might all be semantics or there could be legal implications. The State Department findings suggest the latter.

 

[PokerGuy]

Let us ignore that and instead focus on something Trump said 20 years ago that might be interpreted as mean.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

That is pretty much spot on. If you read this report, it's pretty scathing of hildebeast and her minions. Not only did she not follow policy, she didn't ask information officers for permission for the private mail setup, and hildebeast and her closest cronies refused to talk to investigators. Mind you, this is not Darryl Issa or some R congress critter, this is the inspector general. That's the kind of hubris and arrogance you're dealing with.

What horrible scum, and what a terrible national shame that we have to choose between crooked hildebeast and Trump to 'lead' this country. :thumbsdown:

 

[theeedude]

Still better than Trump for president.

 

[Jhhnn]

C'mon, FBI. Let's get this over with.

I figure there will be a lot of butthurt conspiracy theory believers going on about it. They're always butthurt, anyway, over some load of bullshit or another. They live for that feeling, apparently.

So persecuted!

 

[PokerGuy]

C'mon, FBI. Let's get this over with.

I figure there will be a lot of butthurt conspiracy theory believers going on about it. They're always butthurt, anyway, over some load of bullsh*t or another. They live for that feeling, apparently.

So persecuted!

Duhvert! Duhvert!

This thread is about the inspector general report. Not some opinion piece by someone or just some random rambling accusations or innuendo. I know you just can't stand to see the reality presented, but you're going to have to deal with it.

 

[Guurn]

Since you seem to be lazy

TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
§ 1924. Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term ‘‘classified information of the United States’’ means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.

-- For those who want to complain that the above does not apply let's look at a few other laws.

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration
(b) Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Noted this from the report.

On January 9, 2011, the non-Departmental advisor to President Clinton who provided technical support to the Clinton email system notified the Secretary’s Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations that he had to shut down the server because he believed “someone was trying to hack us and while they did not get in i didnt [sic] want to let them have the chance to.” Later that day, the advisor again wrote to the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, “We were attacked again so I shut [the server] down for a few min.” On January 10, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations emailed the Chief of Staff and the Deputy Chief of Staff for Planning and instructed them not to email the Secretary “anything sensitive” and stated that she could “explain more in person.

 

[sm625]

The idea that Obama's FBI is going to go after Clinton is about the most absurd idea possible. With literally trillions in the trough at stake, they will do nothing to prevent the Clintons from getting back in. That would be as dumb as buying every possible lottery ticket combination, then burning the winning ticket.

 

[ivwshane]

The idea that Obama's FBI is going to go after Clinton is about the most absurd idea possible. With literally trillions in the trough at stake, they will do nothing to prevent the Clintons from getting back in. That would be as dumb as buying every possible lottery ticket combination, then burning the winning ticket.

Are you talking about the current administration that called for the state department to investigate this issue who released this very report?

I'm not sure you could be a bigger idiot with the amount of idiotic posts you make but then again I haven't seen your newest post.

 

[theeedude]

Nobody wants to be the FBI guy who gave America President Trump.

 

[PokerGuy]

Nobody wants to be the FBI guy who gave America President Trump.

That might be so, but if that happens it's not going to be the FBI guy who gave America president Trump, it's going to be hildebeast the criminal responsible for president Trump. Regardless, it ain't gonna happen. I can not foresee any conceivable scenario where the FBI goes after her, no matter what she did.

 

[Guurn]

That might be so, but if that happens it's not going to be the FBI guy who gave America president Trump, it's going to be hildebeast the criminal responsible for president Trump. Regardless, it ain't gonna happen. I can not foresee any conceivable scenario where the FBI goes after her, no matter what she did.

Except they already are, including cutting deals and taking depositions. The recommendations to the DoJ aren't probably far off. The civil case may even be worse for her than the criminal one.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Just remember if you got any of the papers Ed Snowden released you are in violation of the secrets act. Purge your email accounts now!

 

[Bowfinger]

Just remember if you got any of the papers Ed Snowden released you are in violation of the secrets act. Purge your email accounts now!

It's not even that extreme. Did someone send you this link in email: C.I.A. to Expand Use of Drones in Pakistan? Bad news. You're holding "classified" information, just like Clinton.

 

[Bowfinger]

Except they already are, including cutting deals and taking depositions. The recommendations to the DoJ aren't probably far off. The civil case may even be worse for her than the criminal one.

Hope springs eternal. Unfortunately for you and the other Clinton haters, recent reports from the investigation say the FBI is virtually done and have not yet found any evidence of criminal wrongdoing by Secretary Clinton. We don't have the final word, of course. but assuming these reports are correct, better luck next molehill. This one looks like another fizzle for the Benghazi heap.

 

[Guurn]

Hope springs eternal. Unfortunately for you and the other Clinton haters, recent reports from the investigation say the FBI is virtually done and have not yet found any evidence of criminal wrongdoing by Secretary Clinton. We don't have the final word, of course. but assuming these reports are correct, better luck next molehill. This one looks like another fizzle for the Benghazi heap.

Link to report of lack of findings?

 

[PokerGuy]

Except they already are, including cutting deals and taking depositions. The recommendations to the DoJ aren't probably far off. The civil case may even be worse for her than the criminal one.

It's doubtful they'd recommend anything unless there was really an undeniable smoking gun, and even then, don't forget who controls the DoJ. Nothing is going to come out of it.

 

[buckshot24]

You mean like drumpf focusing on Bill's adventures from 20 years ago?

Rape is an adventure now?

 

[ivwshane]

It's doubtful they'd recommend anything unless there was really an undeniable smoking gun, and even then, don't forget who controls the DoJ. Nothing is going to come out of it.

Good job, you've done well at keeping your bubble intact. When things don't go your way, simply come up with another conspiracy!

 

[Subyman]

Let us ignore that and instead focus on something Trump said 20 years ago that might be interpreted as mean.

I'm sure if trump gets elected he will have mountains much taller than those, they will be huge. No apologies.

 

[ivwshane]

Let us ignore that and instead focus on something Trump said 20 years ago that might be interpreted as mean.

We can focus on things he's said and done in the last year if you'd like!

I find it rather fitting that you'd use a cartoon to make your point. A made up cartoon to go with the made up scandals.

 

[Jhhnn]

Duhvert! Duhvert!

This thread is about the inspector general report. Not some opinion piece by someone or just some random rambling accusations or innuendo. I know you just can't stand to see the reality presented, but you're going to have to deal with it.

It's the same subject, different verse. There's nothing terribly damaging in this report, certainly nothing that wasn't previously known. I doubt that the FBI report will be much different.

After that, we'll get to see if Repubs have chosen wisely in running a birther buffoon against her.

 

[buckshot24]

We can focus on things he's said and done in the last year if you'd like!

I find it rather fitting that you'd use a cartoon to make your point. A made up cartoon to go with the made up scandals.

Is the FBI running a made up investigation?