star wars ships don't have shields?

[ctbaars]

Top 10 reasons why Star Wars ships don't have properly working shields.
1) PenguinPower
2) JujuFish
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4) Krazy4Real
5) baoytl
6) Charmonium
7) Chiropteran
8) SSSnail
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10)Xed

 

[William Gaatjes]

The strangest thing is that in the star wars universe, there is no teleportation.

They have warp but no teleportation. They have mind control over matter but not technical control over matter.

In star trek, the droids are dumb but the only android and the ships computer surpasses the star wars droids. One would think.
But remember that the thousands of war droids in star wars (Episode 5) are all remotely controlled and operated by a main ship computer.

It is semantics. If the star trek crew would get pissed, they would just teleport a few collapsing warp cores inside any death star or cruiser. And sooner or later they would find out at which frequency the force works and how it manipulates time and space and create a device against it.

Or use the red stuff...

 

[Gunbuster]

And sooner or later they would find out at which frequency the force works and how it manipulates time and space and create a device against it.

Haha yes I forgot since TNG nearly anything can be solved by pumping some reverse technobable through the EPS squelch manifold to the main deflector dish.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Haha yes I forgot since TNG nearly anything can be solved by pumping some reverse technobable through the EPS squelch manifold to the main deflector dish.

Who needs The Force when you got a La Forge?

 

[IronWing]

The problem with Kevin is summed up well by this quote from a House Episode.



How in fuck's name would a god-level pandimensionable super being fall in love with some human? Even a nice one?

At least Q is honest enough to admit he's just playing with the ants and a magnifying glass.

<shrug> She was a good dancer.

 

[zinfamous]

The old emperor devoured multiple planets-worth of people just to feed his ego in Star Wars.

I don't think anyone from the Enterprise, which is basically a Star Trek space delivery service, can do much to stop something like that.

 

[zinfamous]

The problem would be actually hitting with those weapons. Star Trek weapons are accurate enough to hit practically anything, Star Wars weapons have trouble hitting anything smaller that a planet.

That's the storm troopers. Not the ships.

Also, Luke was bulls-eyeing womprats in his T7 back home, so plenty of people were plenty accurate with their weapons.

 

[zinfamous]

Stormtroopers shooting at redshirts could tear a hole in the space time continuum and destroy the universe.

Kinda like taping buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropping the cat?

:hmm:

 

[Gunbuster]

That's the storm troopers. Not the ships.

Also, Luke was bulls-eyeing womprats in his T7 back home, so plenty of people were plenty accurate with their weapons.

Luke would have significantly more trouble bulls-eyeing womprats that were performing evasive maneuvers at .25 lightspeed.

 

[Slew Foot]

The weapons in SW are rated for so much more power than anything in ST a single laser blast from a Star Destroyer would rip a hole trough anything in ST.

 

[Newbian]

Stormtroopers shooting at redshirts could tear a hole in the space time continuum and destroy the universe.

So that's what caused the star wars holiday special.

 

[Midwayman]

:thumbsdown:

star trek wins

Doesn't really matter. Even if you assume star trek ships won every battle. The Imperial navy would have destroyed their entire industrial base by the time they reached the next star system. Their superluminal speeds are that different. They could destroy a star destroyer with a single photon torpedo every time they met one and they'd end up with empty magazines and no way to resupply. Their power supplies would run out eventually after mildly annoying the empire.

 

[Jeff7]

Someone had done comparisons between the weapons used in both. Star Trek had more realistic power usage for their weapons while Star Wars were orders of magnitude higher. Not sure Star Trek shields would matter if getting hit by weapons from Star Wars.

Yeah, I think the power output of Boba Fett's ship was stated somewhere to be close to that of a Galaxy Class cruiser's warp core.

no shields = teleport photon torpedo into bridge

That's what kind of sucks about these situations with advanced tech, or even fairly low-tech tools.
The transporter can get through quite a lot of material, but it's rarely used as a weapon.

Videogames have the same problem.
Oh, you've got a rocket launcher and a gravity gun that can propel a 30-pound projectile at 60mph?
Nope, your ass is completely blocked by a rickety wooden door that can't be taken down by half a dozen rockets, grenades, C4 packs, a 60mph fire extinguisher, or 200,000 whacks with a crowbar.

Star Wars ships are too fast for Trek to win any sort of war.

In Star Wars people routinely travel from one side of the galaxy to the other. The whole point of Voyager was that it was going to take them a lifetime to get from the Delta quadrant back home.

Star Wars ships could literally choose their battles; hit and run your bases, supply depots, manufacturing centers, resources, and citizenry with impunity. You can't win against that kind of disparity in strategic maneuverability.

That's without even looking at the ship to ship match ups.

While still calling it "light speed."

Maybe it's a genericized trademark, like Kleenex or Xerox.

"If they did go into Light Speed®, they could be on the other side of the galaxy by now."

Or "Galaxy" was just the name of the classiest startruck stop&bar in the sector.

Rebel dogfighters in Star Wars were basically space versions of the A10 Warthog.
Imperial fighters were like an open wheel F1 race car with a laser cannon on the font.
Capital Ships were enormous cruise liners.

There was no real fancy effects or science to them. Just purpose built, blunt and crude appliances meant to perform a function. They clunked. They wobbled. They required a ton of human involvement.

Star Trek was a much more diplomatic and elegant approach to a more civil universe. It was like a lot of their stuff was meant for peaceful protests and non-lethal engagements. I think they tended to rely more on diplomacy and evasion than outright defense and attack.

There were some engagements too where a Galaxy-class would hold fire for most of the encounter, but then it would take one good shot at the other ship and drop its shields in one hit.
A big lumbering ship of exploration, but if it needs to, it'll knock you down a notch and then see if you want to talk it over.

Other times, in heated combat, they felt the need to only occasionally squeeze a little somethin' out the phaser arrays. TV writers.

Given the number of times transporters have been thwarted by naturally occurring phenomena (radiation, weird metal ores, etc) they may not even be able to transport through Star Wars' unshielded hulls (which are some sort of neutronium alloy, if memory serves)

That'd explain why the Executor popped into a fireball the instant it hit the Death Star: Absolutely no crumple zone whatsoever. :awe:
The impact and deceleration occurred so darn fast that the crew and equipment in the ship were briefly exposed to 35,000 Gs.

 

[Jeff7]

So that's what caused ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HAPPEN.

Absolutely.
Nothing.




Some things should not be remembered for any reason.

 

[Childs]

Star Trek has functional computers, Star Wars has people looking out the windshield of a fighter trying to fly while a droid goes bleep bloop.

Star Trek could tell the computer to mop things up while they have tea or dress up like Sherlock Holmes in the holodeck.

Half the time the computers in Star Trek are trying to kill their creators. Star Wars universe learned a long long time ago that networked AI was a bad idea. Thats why they gimp them in fixed function droid form.

 

[Miles Vappa]

Since I do have an account here, and since this wasn't posted yet:

https://youtu.be/vFCBwob65Nw

There are a few of these and this is my favorite.
(My bad if this was posted and i missed it)

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I see a lot of these comparisons comparing the whole of Star Wars universe against just the Federation. Remember, the Borg and their Swedish ways of assimilating? They don't care if those are the droids someone is looking for. Their collective knows right from do do.

Also, in the Star Trek universe they had gone back in time more than once. All they would have to do is travel back in time and to a certain location, find the f-ing sperm holder that seeded the dark side to begin with and it's all over.

And don't forget Khan and his superior intellect.

 

[MongGrel]

Star Trek has red shirt expendable personnel.

+1

 

[MongGrel]

Kinda like taping buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropping the cat?

:hmm:

Heh, good one.

 

[zinfamous]

Luke would have significantly more trouble bulls-eyeing womprats that were performing evasive maneuvers at .25 lightspeed.

what? star trek ships never fought at speed, and were always vastly slower than star wars. It took their fastest ship ever (voyager), some 5 seasons to get from side of the galaxy to the next. Star Wars ships jaunt from opposite corners of the galaxy in a few hours.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Am I the ONLY person who finds comparing two fictional worlds together to be a bit...well, silly? They're their own worlds with their own physics applied to them. There's really no points for comparison...

 

[Newbian]

Am I the ONLY person who finds comparing two fictional worlds together to be a bit...well, silly? They're their own worlds with their own physics applied to them. There's really no points for comparison...

Clearly you are not a big enough nerd then.

 

[Fenixgoon]

what? star trek ships never fought at speed, and were always vastly slower than star wars. It took their fastest ship ever (voyager), some 5 seasons to get from side of the galaxy to the next. Star Wars ships jaunt from opposite corners of the galaxy in a few hours.

in DS9, several fights take place at warp speed

 

[Charmonium]

Kinda like taping buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropping the cat?

:hmm:

The cat and toast are quantum entangled so the cat would land on its feet and the toast buttered side down. Don't try to understand it, just accept it.

 

[Jeff7]

in DS9, several fights take place at warp speed

"We've damaged one of their warp nacelles," Harry calmly states, right after Tuvok obliterated it.

I guess the effects team interpreted the instructions a bit differently.



They do also like to stretch the perspective a lot for TV's sake.
So many of the distances they announce are millions or hundreds of thousands of kilometers, yet ships several hundred meters long are still easily visible.
I also don't think that a ship accelerating from zero to light speed in a second or two wouldn't really make streaks of light or appear to stretch out. It would moreso just completely disappear. Maybe something like the ships in the new Trek movies, assuming the acceleration is quite nonlinear. That little ship will cover a lot of ground going from zero to 300,000km/sec in one second.

It's probably a bit more interesting to watch, the way they did do it.

Am I the ONLY person who finds comparing two fictional worlds together to be a bit...well, silly? They're their own worlds with their own physics applied to them. There's really no points for comparison...

Brb, gonna go play fantasy football and see if that turns into a billion-dollar+ industry. :hmm: