star wars ships don't have shields?

[BoberFett]

It's all about the insystem drive. Star Trek ships move around at full impulse ~1/4 light-speed.

Star Wars ships fly around at about 1000 Miles per hour with a guy using a flight stick looking out a window.

0.25 c is 167000 times larger than 1000 mph. The Star Wars pilot would be lucky to see where the ship from star trek even was.

Star Trek combat doesn't occur at those speeds, otherwise how would a photon torpedo ever hit it's target? Star Trek combat happens mostly while moving relatively slowly or even standing still.

 

[vi edit]

Rebel dogfighters in Star Wars were basically space versions of the A10 Warthog.
Imperial fighters were like an open wheel F1 race car with a laser cannon on the font.
Capital Ships were enormous cruise liners.

There was no real fancy effects or science to them. Just purpose built, blunt and crude appliances meant to perform a function. They clunked. They wobbled. They required a ton of human involvement.

Star Trek was a much more diplomatic and elegant approach to a more civil universe. It was like a lot of their stuff was meant for peaceful protests and non-lethal engagements. I think they tended to rely more on diplomacy and evasion than outright defense and attack.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Star Trek led to Trekkies. Advantage: Star Trek.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Star Trek combat doesn't occur at those speeds, otherwise how would a photon torpedo ever hit it's target? Star Trek combat happens mostly while moving relatively slowly or even standing still.

Read your technical manual. The muzzle velocity of a photon torpedo is 0.75c and they're self-guided.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

The problem with Kevin is summed up well by this quote from a House Episode.

Sidas: I told you. Do you know what the difference between her IQ and mine is? 91 points. In relation, she's closer to a gibbon than she is to me. Having sex with her would be an act of bestiality.

How in fuck's name would a god-level pandimensionable super being fall in love with some human? Even a nice one?

At least Q is honest enough to admit he's just playing with the ants and a magnifying glass.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Rebel dogfighters in Star Wars were basically space versions of the A10 Warthog.
Imperial fighters were like an open wheel F1 race car with a laser cannon on the font.
Capital Ships were enormous cruise liners.

There was no real fancy effects or science to them. Just purpose built, blunt and crude appliances meant to perform a function. They clunked. They wobbled. They required a ton of human involvement.

Star Trek was a much more diplomatic and elegant approach to a more civil universe. It was like a lot of their stuff was meant for peaceful protests and non-lethal engagements. I think they tended to rely more on diplomacy and evasion than outright defense and attack.

So, you might say they were the Toyota Camry of the universe?

 

[poofyhairguy]

How did this thread get this far without this?

 

[TechBoyJK]

I so wish I still had my Sidewinder FF Pro (what a tough piece of engineering!) and X-wing: Alliance installed right now.

Um, no, no I don't, I gots math studies...

You should try Star Citizen. I think it's going to be a better 'star' brand than Star Wars and Star Trek. It's the future.

 

[Homerboy]

How did this thread get this far without this?

Because it doesn't make sense as SDs had deflector shields?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ISD-72x_deflector_shield_generator_dome

 

[TechBoyJK]

Star Citizen > Star Trek > Star Wars

 

[Homerboy]

well, they are stupid enough to think parsec is a unit of time, it would not surprise me they are just traveling between neighbouring systems.

No, you're stupid enough to assume he was referring to parsec as a unit of time. He was referring to it as unit of measure.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run

The time to perform the run proved too difficult to arbitrate (due to the highly relativistic distances involved) but a fierce competition developed nonetheless, for the pilot and ship able to make the run while covering the shortest overall distance demonstrating the most adept maneuverability and pilotage.[source?] Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon, made the infamous run in less than 12 parsecs,[3] breaking a long-held record.[1]

 

[Scarpozzi]

Star Citizen > Star Trek > Star Wars

Where does Dark Helmet fit?

 

[Jaepheth]

Star Wars "turbo-lasers" are clearly not what we would refer to as lasers.

Just like a gun barrel isn't anything like a wooden barrel; the term split and evolved along with what it was describing.

Where does Dark Helmet fit?

He's Star Wars' father's brother's cousin's former roommate; obviously.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Because it doesn't make sense as SDs had deflector shields?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/ISD-72x_deflector_shield_generator_dome

Sure but a classic picture is a classic picture.

And do we actually know if deflector shield can protect from transporting like Star Trek shields can? Of course not, it's all fantasy.

 

[Sonikku]

Try taking the Slave 1 out for a spin in Battlefront to get an idea of what life is like going up against peeps with shields when you don't have shields.

 

[Jaepheth]

Given the number of times transporters have been thwarted by naturally occurring phenomena (radiation, weird metal ores, etc) they may not even be able to transport through Star Wars' unshielded hulls (which are some sort of neutronium alloy, if memory serves)

 

[Homerboy]

Sure but a classic picture is a classic picture.

And do we actually know if deflector shield can protect from transporting like Star Trek shields can? Of course not, it's all fantasy.

Honestly, I've never seen it before in my life.
That being said, I really do dislike Star Trek.

 

[poofyhairguy]

That being said, I really do dislike Star Trek.

As in you dislike the 1960's series because it is dated, but you still worship Picard like the rest of us?

I am just trying to understand.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Yoda was moldy troll

 

[SMOGZINN]

Not sure Star Trek shields would matter if getting hit by weapons from Star Wars.

The problem would be actually hitting with those weapons. Star Trek weapons are accurate enough to hit practically anything, Star Wars weapons have trouble hitting anything smaller that a planet.

 

[Homerboy]

As in you dislike the 1960's series because it is dated, but you still worship Picard like the rest of us?

I am just trying to understand.

As in I never liked any of it.

 

[Jaepheth]

The problem would be actually hitting with those weapons. Star Trek weapons are accurate enough to hit practically anything, Star Wars weapons have trouble hitting anything smaller that a planet.

Depending on source both sides have accuracy issues. (Stormtroopers would miss every shot, but all the redshirts would die anyway)

Voyager was shown to have great difficulty targeting and hitting fighter sized ships.

Trek ships also have a much lower rate of fire.

 

[BoberFett]

Depending on source both sides have accuracy issues. (Stormtroopers would miss every shot, but all the redshirts would die anyway)

Stormtroopers shooting at redshirts could tear a hole in the space time continuum and destroy the universe.

 

[poofyhairguy]

As in I never liked any of it.

I know, I was joking because that isn't a very popular opinion in nerdland. To be fair, I think all Trek is pretty dated. Battlestar made it all look like a cheesecake in comparison.

But I think Trek is important for the development of technology no matter if someone likes it or not. I don't think there is anyone out there trying to make a real lightsaber, or a pod racer. But the whole VR movement is basically trying to put a Holodeck on your face, and 3D printers are an obvious attempt to create a replicator. And many many people are working on a universal translator.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Stormtroopers shooting at redshirts could tear a hole in the space time continuum and destroy the universe.