star wars ships don't have shields?

[Fenixgoon]

"We've damaged one of their warp nacelles," Harry calmly states, right after Tuvok obliterated it.

I guess the effects team interpreted the instructions a bit differently.



They do also like to stretch the perspective a lot for TV's sake.
So many of the distances they announce are millions or hundreds of thousands of kilometers, yet ships several hundred meters long are still easily visible.
I also don't think that a ship accelerating from zero to light speed in a second or two wouldn't really make streaks of light or appear to stretch out. It would moreso just completely disappear. Maybe something like the ships in the new Trek movies, assuming the acceleration is quite nonlinear. That little ship will cover a lot of ground going from zero to 300,000km/sec in one second.

It's probably a bit more interesting to watch, the way they did do it.😀



Brb, gonna go play fantasy football and see if that turns into a billion-dollar+ industry. :hmm:

not to get in a pissing contest, but that's voyager, and apparently phasers at warp speed have been used throughout star trek 😛

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Phaser

 

[Gunbuster]

what? star trek ships never fought at speed, and were always vastly slower than star wars. It took their fastest ship ever (voyager), some 5 seasons to get from side of the galaxy to the next. Star Wars ships jaunt from opposite corners of the galaxy in a few hours.

In Trek full impulse is .25c, for TV viewers and the people aboard the ship the view screen is basically a construct while the computer does the heavy lifting. This is the canon of the series, them just dinking around NOT at warp and they are moving around at 25% of light speed. In the less fully thought out star wars everyone looks out a window and manually pilots their craft sub-light.

Yes Star Wars can supposedly cross the universe faster in hyperspace but once in system they would basically be blind to the Trek universe craft moving around at an appreciable percentage of lightspeed.

 

[Paratus]

Yeah, I think the power output of Boba Fett's ship was stated somewhere to be close to that of a Galaxy Class cruiser's warp core.




That's what kind of sucks about these situations with advanced tech, or even fairly low-tech tools.
The transporter can get through quite a lot of material, but it's rarely used as a weapon.

Videogames have the same problem.
Oh, you've got a rocket launcher and a gravity gun that can propel a 30-pound projectile at 60mph?
Nope, your ass is completely blocked by a rickety wooden door that can't be taken down by half a dozen rockets, grenades, C4 packs, a 60mph fire extinguisher, or 200,000 whacks with a crowbar.



While still calling it "light speed." 😀

Maybe it's a genericized trademark, like Kleenex or Xerox.

"If they did go into Light Speed®, they could be on the other side of the galaxy by now."

Or "Galaxy" was just the name of the classiest startruck stop&bar in the sector.




There were some engagements too where a Galaxy-class would hold fire for most of the encounter, but then it would take one good shot at the other ship and drop its shields in one hit.
A big lumbering ship of exploration, but if it needs to, it'll knock you down a notch and then see if you want to talk it over.

Other times, in heated combat, they felt the need to only occasionally squeeze a little somethin' out the phaser arrays. TV writers.



That'd explain why the Executor popped into a fireball the instant it hit the Death Star: Absolutely no crumple zone whatsoever. :awe:
The impact and deceleration occurred so darn fast that the crew and equipment in the ship were briefly exposed to 35,000 Gs.

In Stargate Atlantis the humans used beaming technology to deposit several nukes on the bridges of various Wraith ships. At least until they figured it out and created countermeasures.

 

[OverVolt]

Star Wars was inspired by WWII dogfighting, and is much more so analog.

Startrek is full of stupid gadgets people wish we had.

The gunner seats in the Millennium Falcon look like the gunner seats in the B-29. etc. etc.

WWII in space.

http://www.starwars.com/news/from-world-war-to-star-wars-the-millennium-falcon

I suppose Star Trek was born out of the aspirations from the moon landing. It seemed like "space was the final frontier" like the last place for man to explore. Its just too damn expensive on fossil fuels though.

 

[OverVolt]

In Stargate Atlantis the humans used beaming technology to deposit several nukes on the bridges of various Wraith ships. At least until they figured it out and created countermeasures.

Stargate is probably the most realistic in terms of discovering a powerful technology.

"Who is dialing our wormhole? Kablooey"

Lol.

 

[blankslate]

The best nonsense lyric songs are made for Star Wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9tgLnI0fFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySHDUU2juM

Many points in Star War's favor...


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[Jeff7]

not to get in a pissing contest, but that's voyager, and apparently phasers at warp speed have been used throughout star trek 😛

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Phaser

The sequence did not make use of Neelix so it's at least somewhat legit.

In Stargate Atlantis the humans used beaming technology to deposit several nukes on the bridges of various Wraith ships. At least until they figured it out and created countermeasures.

While the Asgard look on disapprovingly, shaking their heads.....for some reason.

"Guys....you really aren't supposed to use dynamite and automatic rifles to go fishing."
-"But why?! It's so quick and awesome!"
<BOOM>
"....*sigh* Did we really have to share explosives technology with these primitives?"

Stargate is probably the most realistic in terms of discovering a powerful technology.

"Who is dialing our wormhole? Kablooey"

Lol.

That was a kind of nice series. I guess all the torture scenes kind of hurt it for me a bit, but it was overall a fun show.


But yes....
"Wow, fancy alien technology! BUTTONS!!!!"

 

[RampantAndroid]

Its just too damn expensive on fossil fuels though.

You do realize that we don't use only KP-1 kerosene, right? Hydrazine has been in use since WWII (and has been used on the Shuttle thrusters and for landing Curiosity on Mars.) It's actually pretty efficient. The Soviets used it combined with nitric acid, a hypergolic solution that had a number of problems, the least of which was "it's toxic, and killed a bunch of our scientists."

The problem with space travel wasn't the cost - we went to the moon on a fraction of the money we spent bailing out Wall Street; the reason it petered out is a lack of interest. We no longer had to beat the communists, we'd done that...we beat them by a healthy margin...with the average interest that people in North America and Europe have in science & exploration of space, we're lucky to have another rover on Mars and a space station. We should be looking at things like mining asteroids as we deplete our resources on earth...