Star Wars Episode 7 cast announced

[qliveur]

You're insane dude. If you don't like it fine. But if you can't agree that others like it and it has some great aspects to it then you're just stubborn.

I love everything Star Trek and haven't missed anything over the years, but these new movies were awesome. Did a great job in rebooting and surpassed the old ones in many ways.

ST 2009 was a decent, if incoherent, action film. Into Reference was a fucking mess.

Both were terrible Star Trek films.

 

[KeithTalent]

Eh the first new Star Trek film was ok, but pretty boring, so I skipped the second one. Never been a massive Star Trek guy anyway, aside from Picard and Q, who I like a lot.

KT

 

[smackababy]

ST 2009 was a decent, if incoherent, action film. Into Reference was a fucking mess.

Both were terrible Star Trek films.

And yet both are universally referred to as good movies by the masses. The fact that it wasn't a "good Star Trek film" is so irrelevant. I'm sorry it didn't stroke the Treky ego you need to feel superior because you can speak Klingon and have no girlfriend.


This is what will happen with these new Star Wars movies. The superfans will hate them and cry about how they are terrible, the average movie goer will love it and it will make tons of money. The internet will cry about lens flare on the lightsabers and pew pew blasters.

 

[qliveur]

Yup, death of a genre is totally irrelevant. 🙄

Go back to ranting about how you're entitled to spoil the GoT thread because you read the books.

 

[mmntech]

Blaming any actors, especially the child anakin, or their bad performances in episodes 1-3 is just plain stupid. Not when they had the worst film maker of the last 20 years directing them.

Which is why you can't pretend Episodes 1-3 don't exist. They need to exist as evidence that Lucas cannot direct a good film.

We've had this debate to death already, but here we go again. ^_^

Lucas is very much a technical director. He's really good at embracing new technologies, editing, special effects, etc. What he doesn't know how to do is direct actors or write proper scripts.

His other big problem is he's a notorious micro manager. He also likes to surround himself with yes men. Which is why the prequels were so bad. Nobody wanted to question his "vision", or makes suggestions on how things could have been done better. Of course Lucas forgets that if people never questioned his "vision", Star Wars would have been a b-movie box office bomb back in 1977. The original draft of the script was pretty bad.

 

[Strk]

And yet both are universally referred to as good movies by the masses. The fact that it wasn't a "good Star Trek film" is so irrelevant. I'm sorry it didn't stroke the Treky ego you need to feel superior because you can speak Klingon and have no girlfriend.


This is what will happen with these new Star Wars movies. The superfans will hate them and cry about how they are terrible, the average movie goer will love it and it will make tons of money. The internet will cry about lens flare on the lightsabers and pew pew blasters.

I remember Abrams doing an interview and he said his whole goal was to bring the widespread appeal of Star Wars to Star Trek. I think he did a pretty good job of it.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

I remember Abrams doing an interview and he said his whole goal was to bring the widespread appeal of Star Wars to Star Trek. I think he did a pretty good job of it.

Widespread appeal = dumbing down for the masses. I don't want to cater to the lowest common denominator 🙁.

damn you untermenschen!!! *shakes fist*

 

[qliveur]

^This.

 

[Ruptga]

Damn straight, "the masses" can enjoy their Transformers and Jersey Shore, leave our nerdy stuff the fuck alone.

Actually on second thought, we want Transformers back, they can keep Bay and Fox though.

 

[preslove]

We've had this debate to death already, but here we go again. ^_^

Lucas is very much a technical director. He's really good at embracing new technologies, editing, special effects, etc. What he doesn't know how to do is direct actors or write proper scripts.

His other big problem is he's a notorious micro manager. He also likes to surround himself with yes men. Which is why the prequels were so bad. Nobody wanted to question his "vision", or makes suggestions on how things could have been done better. Of course Lucas forgets that if people never questioned his "vision", Star Wars would have been a b-movie box office bomb back in 1977. The original draft of the script was pretty bad.

Lucas is not a good technical director, anymore. He just has his computer people create stuff on the computer from the story boards & script. These absolutely no quality camera work in the prequels. Red Letter Media goes over this pretty well during the Revenge of the Sith review. outside of the action sequences, almost all of the movies are of people either walking or sitting down while talking, with shot-reverse-shot. It's horrendously boring.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

They weren't that bad. Rotten Tomatoes has the 2009 at 95% and audiences have it at 91%. Now, it might not be hardcore Treky dream movie, but the masses liked it. Which, is why Abrams was tapped to rekindle the magic of Star Wars (the last 3 were terrible). I wager this movie will be a box office hit, regardless if the superfans like it or not.

It will probably make loads of money, but I'd wager it will still be terrible.

His Trek films were terrible because of all the plot holes, ludicrous explanations, and yes, the lens flare. I fully expect to see him make bad Star Wars films. I don't think he can "ruin" the name, as I think Lucas did that himself with Episodes 1-3.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You're insane dude. If you don't like it fine. But if you can't agree that others like it and it has some great aspects to it then you're just stubborn.

Errr, learn to read? Where did I say that others didn't like it? People like Justin Bieber too, does that mean we all should?

I love everything Star Trek and haven't missed anything over the years, but these new movies were awesome. Did a great job in rebooting and surpassed the old ones in many ways.

The plot holes, poor characterizations, and lame villains are just the start of his movies. I cringed when I watched Into Darkness. Yeah, Shatner may have been overly dramatic, but those movies were far better.

If you like them, good for you. I personally thought they were awful and an insult to the original Trek franchise.

ST 2009 was a decent, if incoherent, action film. Into Reference was a fucking mess.

Both were terrible Star Trek films.

This guy gets it.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

And yet both are universally referred to as good movies by the masses. The fact that it wasn't a "good Star Trek film" is so irrelevant. I'm sorry it didn't stroke the Treky ego you need to feel superior because you can speak Klingon and have no girlfriend.

The masses made Justin Bieber rich and have turned History Channel into the White Trash Reality Channel, so I don't think using their tastes as a barometer of how "good" something might be is a good idea. Yeah, the movies were popular and made lots of money. They still sucked.

This is what will happen with these new Star Wars movies. The superfans will hate them and cry about how they are terrible, the average movie goer will love it and it will make tons of money. The internet will cry about lens flare on the lightsabers and pew pew blasters.

The prequels made a ton of money too. Are you saying they weren't terrible?

 

[Skel]

The Abrams' Star Trek films were mindless fun action films. Far from the best I've ever seen but no where near the worst. I would say however they weren't what I would have classified as a Star Trek film. ST films, TO ME, were a more cerebral team focused story. The new films were the Spock and Kirk action fest. More a buddy cop movie than a deep thought provoking film I'd expect from ST. While I do think there's room for both versions (though with the success of the new reboot I doubt we'll see the old cerebral versions again) I prefer the cerebral ones. There's a ton of Sci-Fi action movies, and not enough ones that make me think.

I think he'll make enjoyable Star Wars films, and he's giving a lot of people like me what we really want, what happens next. The fact he's bringing back the old cast, even as aged as they are to me is nothing short of awesome. The prequels were a huge mess, (and the only thing worse was that Red Letter media OCD mess. I can't behind making a commentary about every..... single..... stupid... flaw. There are much better uses of my time than to sit through someone preaching that was even longer than the movie it bitches about.) and didn't work for me. I couldn't have cared less about how Vader became Vader, but I'm also one of those people that wouldn't say the first three movies were about him. He was the villain and a good one, but not the focus of the story.

 

[preslove]

Star Trek VI was the last good star trek movie...

 

[alkemyst]

Anyone know what characters? I can see Max playing Obi Wan as an old man since the original actor died.

 

[Kadarin]

A lot of the faults laid against the new Star Trek movies I believe could be blamed on Damon Lindelof. A better writer would have written coherent stories that actually made sense.

 

[dr150]

Damn straight, "the masses" can enjoy their Transformers and Jersey Shore, leave our nerdy stuff the fuck alone.

Actually on second thought, we want Transformers back, they can keep Bay and Fox though.

Lindelof's masterclass writing skills will work well with the masses for this project.
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Lindelof + Lens flare Director + Daft Punk soundtrack will complete the circle. :biggrin:

 

[TheVrolok]

Naysayers aside, I'm looking forward to it

 

[Printer Bandit]

please let there be a return of the wookie.

 

[SKORPI0]

please let there be a return of the wookie.

cast list shows Peter Meyhew... :awe:

 

[Jeff7]

I've never heard of any of these new guys. I am glad Disney is giving the old cast a job though, it isn't like anyone except Ford has done anything of note after Star Wars.

With the paycheck he had to have received, I don't know that I'd need to do anything else. :awe:

 

[zerocool84]

American Graffiti and Star Wars are the only good movies that Lucas directed, everything else sucks. Even Revenge of the Sith sucked.

 

[Fritzo]

You're insane dude. If you don't like it fine. But if you can't agree that others like it and it has some great aspects to it then you're just stubborn.

I love everything Star Trek and haven't missed anything over the years, but these new movies were awesome. Did a great job in rebooting and surpassed the old ones in many ways.

The first one was just "Generic space action movie." The script was 75% "EVERYONE RUN AWAY FROM STUFF!!!"

The second one was "let's rearrange all the stuff from Wrath of Khan...people will love it!!!"

While both movies were entertaining, they really weren't "Trek" movies 🙁

Here's what Carrie Fisher thinks of Star Trek:

 

[zerocool84]

The first one was just "Generic space action movie." The script was 75% "EVERYONE RUN AWAY FROM STUFF!!!"

The second one was "let's rearrange all the stuff from Wrath of Khan...people will love it!!!"

While both movies were entertaining, they really weren't "Trek" movies 🙁

Here's what Carrie Fisher thinks of Star Trek:

Exactly, my same feeling with the Daniel Craig Bond movies, they weren't Bond movies either. The new Star Trek movies and James Bond movies, you could have called them something else and it would have been just fine but they don't have the essence of what makes them their namesake.