Star Trek question

[NARtheWang]

There were many ships but I think that the Enterprise had always been the "OFFICIAL" flagship

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: NFS4
Ummm, in ST-III I thought that the Excelsiur sp? was the new flagship as the Enterprise was being decomissioned. The Excelsiur was bigger, faster, and more powerful than the NC1701

Excelsior was a test bed for transwarp drive, unfortunately it didn't pan out properly.

A constitution class is faster and not as well armed, while the excelsior is significantly slower and has a better armament. It was a trade off pretty much, I don't know. Remember the Galaxy Class starship wasn't the best in TNG, bigger and badder ships were being made.

In TNG what ships did Starfleet have that were better than the Galaxy class? I remember them having mostly Excelsiors a few Nebulas and 1 other Galaxy class (until it was distroyed) plus a handful of Ambassadors, New Orlends and some of those Miranda style ones, (Soyuz I think).

The Galaxy class was pretty much at the top of the food chain until the Soverign or Prometheus (can't remember which came first) or maybe the Defiant

 

[Iron Woode]

In the OS there was more than 1 flagship. Kirk said in one episode that "there's other flag ships besides the enterprise."

Of course everyone here is using TNG instead.

It's interesting how they recycle ship's names. Defiant was destroyed in The Tholian Web. Constellation was destroyed in The Doomsday Machine. Not to mention a few more destroyed in The Ultimate Computer.

 

[vegetation]

The Galaxy glass was the most powerful pre-Borg and a few years after the Borg attack. Basically, before they knew of the Borg, Starfleet believed peaceful vessels geared towards exploration rather than battle, were they way to go, but that radically changed soon after. It wasn't until the Borg that they developed new weapons like quantum torpedos and better shields, phasers, faster warp speeds, and ships that were just better all around. Then the Dominion wars radically advanced weaponry even further. We've seen Galaxy class ships during the Cardassian invasion in the last 2 episodes of DS9 that kicked a lot of butt, but they probably were refitted with new weaponry. Also, the Nebula class was refitted with some sort of weapons pod that made it potent. The Soverign class was supposedly the first large ship class developed from scratch after the Borg invasion, so it would be several orders of magnitude more lethal than the original Galaxy class.

In TNG what ships did Starfleet have that were better than the Galaxy class? I remember them having mostly Excelsiors a few Nebulas and 1 other Galaxy class (until it was distroyed) plus a handful of Ambassadors, New Orlends and some of those Miranda style ones, (Soyuz I think).

The Galaxy class was pretty much at the top of the food chain until the Soverign or Prometheus (can't remember which came first) or maybe the Defiant

 

[notfred]

Basically, before they knew of the Borg, Starfleet believed peaceful vessels geared towards exploration rather than battle, were they way to go, but that radically changed soon after.

Incidentally, this happened right around the time gene Roddenberry died and Brandon Braga took over...

 

[morkinva]

Originally posted by: notfred
The Enterprise C was destroyed 30 yeas before the Enterprise D was launched.

Great point! So this would mean that the Enterprise was not the flagship for this period of time, or they had another Enterprise which we haven't heard about, the NCC-1701C+

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JC

Originally posted by: NFS4

He was bragging about his unproven-technology ship. And it bombed.

That's b/c Scotty broke it

Anyway, the NC1701-B was an Excelsiur class ship so I'll stick with by my original statement

True, but they never mention the Transwarp drive again...

And it is ALL Scottie's fault

You don't think Scotty got caught in the transporter for 70 years by accident do you?

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Yomicron
In TNG what ships did Starfleet have that were better than the Galaxy class?

Correct. For the Federation, Galaxy class was the best there is (in TNG-timeframe at least). More info here

As good as the Galaxy-class was, the Romulan Warbird was more powerful and bigger.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Yomicron
In TNG what ships did Starfleet have that were better than the Galaxy class?

Correct. For the Federation, Galaxy class was the best there is (in TNG-timeframe at least). More info here

As good as the Galaxy-class was, the Romulan Warbird was more powerful and bigger.

I don't know, they might not be too far apart. As far as I can remember, whenever the Enterprise wandered into the Neutral Zone (for whatever ungodly reason this time), they always ended up taking a beating from a Warbird because THEY COULD NEVER SHOOT BACK!

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Yomicron
In TNG what ships did Starfleet have that were better than the Galaxy class?

Correct. For the Federation, Galaxy class was the best there is (in TNG-timeframe at least). More info here

As good as the Galaxy-class was, the Romulan Warbird was more powerful and bigger.

I don't know, they might not be too far apart. As far as I can remember, whenever the Enterprise wandered into the Neutral Zone (for whatever ungodly reason this time), they always ended up taking a beating from a Warbird because THEY COULD NEVER SHOOT BACK!

Ya, but the Warbird was bigger than Galaxy-class. I remember hearing that the Warbird was considered to be the most powerful ship in TNG.

 

[MaxDepth]

Originally posted by: morkinva

Originally posted by: notfred
The Enterprise C was destroyed 30 yeas before the Enterprise D was launched.

Great point! So this would mean that the Enterprise was <STRONG>not</STRONG> the flagship for this period of time, or they had another Enterprise which we haven't heard about, the NCC-1701C+

It was actually the NCC-1701C# (out of Redmond). It of course was all flash and no substance. Plus those Service Paks were getting to be a bit too cumbersome.

 

[NFS4]

This page says that the NC1701 Constitution class starship was the first to bear the name Enterprise...but what about the new series? What's its classification and how does it fit in now?

http://www.lcarscom.net/fsd/starships/constitution.html

 

[NFS4]

Answer my question damnit!

 

[vegetation]

During the Dominion battle, the Romulans probably had the weakest fleet, trailing the Klingons and Federation. In the last battle near Cardassia, the entire Romulan fleet fell apart and even its flagship blew up. Just goes to support that the Federation radically advanced its weaponry from the early TNG era, where it indeed could get easily whooped by a Warbird.

Ya, but the Warbird was bigger than Galaxy-class. I remember hearing that the Warbird was considered to be the most powerful ship in TNG.

 

[Noriaki]

Yeah answer his question

 

[ManSnake]

My question to you is "Is the Federation's Flagship always Enterpise?" :Q

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
My question to you is "Is the Federation's Flagship always Enterpise?" :Q

Not immediately after Generations Because NC-1701-C and NC-1701-D were both destroyed

 

[NFS4]

Well, it looks like the "new" "old" Enterprise is the "NX class"

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/tech.html

More interesting commentary:

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/opinion.html

The "old" Enterprise looks similar to his Akira class ship flipped upside down:

http://home.att.net/~starships/akira.html

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Well, it looks like the "new" "old" Enterprise is the "NX class"

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/tech.html

More interesting commentary:

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/opinion.html

The "old" Enterprise looks similar to his Akira class ship flipped upside down:

http://home.att.net/~starships/akira.html

The only major flaw of the Akira is its poor shielding. There are many vulnerable points, especially along the nacelle catamarans, which led to the destruction of several vessels during the Dominion War.
Only the Federation would make a battleship with poor shielding as the major flaw. For Christ's sake!

 

[Noriaki]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: NFS4
Well, it looks like the "new" "old" Enterprise is the "NX class"

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/tech.html

More interesting commentary:

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/opinion.html

The "old" Enterprise looks similar to his Akira class ship flipped upside down:

http://home.att.net/~starships/akira.html

The only major flaw of the Akira is its poor shielding. There are many vulnerable points, especially along the nacelle catamarans, which led to the destruction of several vessels during the Dominion War.
Only the Federation would make a battleship with poor shielding as the major flaw. For Christ's sake!

LMAO!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Noriaki

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: NFS4
Well, it looks like the "new" "old" Enterprise is the "NX class"

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/tech.html

More interesting commentary:

http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/Nx-01/opinion.html

The "old" Enterprise looks similar to his Akira class ship flipped upside down:

http://home.att.net/~starships/akira.html

The only major flaw of the Akira is its poor shielding. There are many vulnerable points, especially along the nacelle catamarans, which led to the destruction of several vessels during the Dominion War.
Only the Federation would make a battleship with poor shielding as the major flaw. For Christ's sake!

LMAO!

HAHA, the sad thing is that I spent about 2 hours last night reading that site like it was actually REAL stuff

 

[Lonyo]

They made a series called Enterprise, set with an early ship and captain, so I guess Enterprise was one of the first Starfleet ships to be commissioned, so it's probably one of the main ships they have. I'd say yes because of that.

 

[vegetation]

It's the only Warp 5 capable ship in the fleet. All other ships only have warp 2 or lower speeds. This is why the Enterprise can venture out farther than any earth ship has ever been. Remember that in the star trek TOS scale, the difference between warp 5 and 2 is not just 2.5x faster, but rather nearly 16x faster.

Originally posted by: Lonyo
They made a series called Enterprise, set with an early ship and captain, so I guess Enterprise was one of the first Starfleet ships to be commissioned, so it's probably one of the main ships they have. I'd say yes because of that.