Star Trek Question: Worf

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Vic

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
IT IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!

CRY HAVOC! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR! :D

Never understood this line, why is a klingon quoting shakespeare?

Read Hamlet, then watch the movie and use yer brainz. :p

Klingons have never been big on literature except their own.

...and your point is?

It's from the Tragedy of Julius Caesar tsk tsk tsk. I think it's Marc Antony... but I could be wrong

You are correct. It is Marc Antony. I already posted Act and Scene above (III, i). See earlier in the thread.

My favorite borrowed line in The Undiscovered Country is from The Merchant of Venice, Act III, Scene I, Shylock says: "If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
It doesn't make sense that klingons would borrow human phrases, considering how they view the federation as soft.

If you watched the movie, goddamnyou, you'd know that these were not your typical "ugh grunt" Klingons. They were highly educated. A rarity, obviously, but highly educated none-the-less.

They could have explained that as well. They break the typical klingon mode but it never expalined why that is the case. Of course, it's been a few years since I last saw the movie and perhaps forgot the explantion.

Another thing why are their head ridges different from TNG klingons?

That could be like the Klingons asking why some of us are black and some are white.

White Klingon:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/YOyoYOhowsDAjello/klingon.JPG
 

Riceball

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
It doesn't make sense that klingons would borrow human phrases, considering how they view the federation as soft.

If you watched the movie, goddamnyou, you'd know that these were not your typical "ugh grunt" Klingons. They were highly educated. A rarity, obviously, but highly educated none-the-less.

They could have explained that as well. They break the typical klingon mode but it never expalined why that is the case. Of course, it's been a few years since I last saw the movie and perhaps forgot the explantion.

Another thing why are their head ridges different from TNG klingons?

That could be like the Klingons asking why some of us are black and some are white.

But you never see a kruge-ridge klingons in tng, ds9, and onward. TOS klingons have no ridges period. Seems more like continuity errors.

 

silverpig

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Sorta the same way Red from that 70's show could pop up as that president guy in 2293 yet be an old human dad in 1970.... THEY'RE FRIGGIN ACTORS!!!
 

Vic

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Worthless trivia. The very first Klingon ever shown in Star Trek (the original episode with the Organians) was played by John Colicos, who also played Baltar in the original Battlestar Galactica series. IIRC, they brought him back for a couple of DS9 episodes.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Sorta the same way Red from that 70's show could pop up as that president guy in 2293 yet be an old human dad in 1970.... THEY'RE FRIGGIN ACTORS!!!

He's always played the UFP President in every movie.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
It doesn't make sense that klingons would borrow human phrases, considering how they view the federation as soft.

If you watched the movie, goddamnyou, you'd know that these were not your typical "ugh grunt" Klingons. They were highly educated. A rarity, obviously, but highly educated none-the-less.

They could have explained that as well. They break the typical klingon mode but it never expalined why that is the case. Of course, it's been a few years since I last saw the movie and perhaps forgot the explantion.

Another thing why are their head ridges different from TNG klingons?

That could be like the Klingons asking why some of us are black and some are white.

But you never see a kruge-ridge klingons in tng, ds9, and onward. TOS klingons have no ridges period. Seems more like continuity errors.

I always thought of it as budget errors. ;)

edit: Oh yeah, when they brought John Colicos (aka "Kor") back from the DS9 episodes, he had the ridges that he didn't have in the TNG episodes, even though he still had the same character name, and it was more than 100 storyline years later. Text
 

YoshiSato

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
IT IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!

CRY HAVOC! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR! :D

Never understood this line, why is a klingon quoting shakespeare?

Read Hamlet, then watch the movie and use yer brainz. :p

Klingons have never been big on literature except their own.

...and your point is?

It's from the Tragedy of Julius Caesar tsk tsk tsk. I think it's Marc Antony... but I could be wrong

You are correct. It is Marc Antony. I already posted Act and Scene above (III, i). See earlier in the thread.

My favorite borrowed line in The Undiscovered Country is from The Merchant of Venice, Act III, Scene I, Shylock says: "If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"



What I don't get is. What does the one Klingon mean by "You have not exprienced Shakespare until you've heard it in the "ORGINAL" Klingon?
Then Chang says "To be or not to be in Klingon"

I know that was explained at a ST convention may years back but I was too young to care or undestand at the time let alone store it into memory.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: silverpig
Sorta the same way Red from that 70's show could pop up as that president guy in 2293 yet be an old human dad in 1970.... THEY'RE FRIGGIN ACTORS!!!

He's always played the UFP President in every movie.

But how can a human dad from the '70s be a klingon in the future? I don't get it. Maybe I'll post a thread about how the movie industry confuses me.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: hjo3
FOUND IT! Undiscovered Country takes place in 2293 -- Worf wasn't born till 2340. It must have been his grandfather.

Now theres some trivia for you;)