Star Trek Online - To Boldly Beta where No One Has Beta'd Before!

[FerraraZ]

I do? I quit WoW about 4 years ago because it was boring and uninteresting. Fallen Earth on the other hand... now that's a great MMO.

Was this serious? I saw that game got bad reviews

 

[Elcs]

Was this serious? I saw that game got bad reviews

Fallen Earth was a fantastic MMO given bad reviews by those who were spoonfed easy levelling and couldnt understand that it was a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

A gritty and difficult MMO obviously too hard for the masses.

 

[KMFJD]

Take SunnyD's opinion with a grain of salt; the guy thinks WoW is actually good.

i think we found a wow hater...wtf does wow have to do with a discussion on STO?

 

[datalink7]

Fallen Earth was a fantastic MMO given bad reviews by those who were spoonfed easy levelling and couldnt understand that it was a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

A gritty and difficult MMO obviously too hard for the masses.

I actually quit Fallen Earth because it wasn't difficult enough

 

[Elcs]

I actually quit Fallen Earth because it wasn't difficult enough

Same here

If you knew what to do, you could earn tons of chips and experience by pew-pewing level 40-43's at level 25ish.

But in the grand scheme of things, Fallen Earth is a much harder MMO than most.

 

[lupi]

When I finally had a chance to log on last night I noticed they had updated the patch notes on the login screen. Couldn't figure a way to c&p them though and didn't see them listed any where else.

 

[SunnyD]

When I finally had a chance to log on last night I noticed they had updated the patch notes on the login screen. Couldn't figure a way to c&p them though and didn't see them listed any where else.

Right on the web site under "Support-->Release Notes".

General

• Upon viewing map, if the system list was the last active map and you're in a space map now, the area map is shown instead.
• Starfleet officers have been kicked off Klingon bridges and replaced with appropriate Klingon Officers.
• The scientists on Memory Alpha were expecting you to purchase far too many upgrades before they would allow you to speak to the next scientist. Players will now find that other scientists will unlock after purchasing a moderate amount of products (based on the item values).
• An Exchange has been added to Qo’Nos.
• The ability to powerhue shift your weapon colors has been removed.
• A Mailbox, Exchange, and Bank have been added to Memory Alpha.
• Contact headshots animations will no longer camera pan when they first appear.
• Removed "Assaults" from the in-game scoreboard.
• Items in the C-Store that can only be purchased once per character are now properly grayed out or not depending on whether you can claim the item.
• Fix many items that were incorrectly being put into the Commodities category in the Exchange. Items will need to be removed from the Exchange and re-added for them to show up in the correct category.
• Fixed a bug where players would occasionally teleport onto a ground map without their personal shield activated.
• Adjusting video settings then hitting cancel no longer sets Mouse look sensitivity to 0.
• Fleet Uniforms now save all colors properly.
• Unlockable races now only show up in character creation for the appropriate account.
• Swapping weapons now resets cool down timers properly.
• Fixed several categories of items in the Exchange which were not filtered properly.
• Your bridge officer’s paperdolls will now update when you equip items while in space.

Audio

• Added SFX for anomaly scanning in space.
• Added SFX for disruptor dual heavy cannon.

Missions

• Damaged Borg Spheres in the tutorial now respawn faster to ensure there are always some around.
• Klingon players no longer improperly receive the mission to go to Deep Space 9.
• Diplomatic mission “Heading Out” now has clearer directions on how to get to the Romulan Sector.
• Fixed a broken Borg node in Borg Hunt competitive iPvP maps.
• Klingon players now properly acquire the Azure Nebula missions at level 17.
• The vendor "Letowch" on Ganalda station now sells Kits.
• Bekk Strenn now appropriately addresses players by their current rank.
• Egenn's mission sending you to Memory Alpha is now clearer on what to do and where to go.
• The library computer now describes WASD.
• The Patrol Orion Sector mission is now listed as level 5 instead of 4 to reflect mission difficulty.
• Fixed many places where Alpha Centauri was spelled Alpha Centari.
• Federation players are now instructed on where to find Lt. Laurel when they receive their ship promotion.
• Bridge Officers are now have proper display names when they contact you in the Lahra system.
• Joe Hadley on Beytan V has received some grammar lessons.
• Fixed other various grammar and text typos in Bridge Officer Contact Dialogs.
• The security team will now properly spawn on the Athen’s bridge during the War Games mission.
• Fixed many inappropriate warp in locations when transferring between sectors.
• Reduced the frequency of Defend missions in Star Cluster unknown systems.
• Removed several Star Cluster missions that were difficult to continue due to errors in the mission text.
• Updated Fleet Action to ensure that all objectives and spawns are resetting properly.
• The Good Luck Charm - Daily Klingon mission should now work properly.
• Removed some broken daily PVP missions until they can be fixed.
• Fixed an issue where team members weren’t getting proper credit in introductory Klingon ipvp missions.
• Mission contact headshots now appear appropriately no matter which teammate initiates the dialog.
• Admiral Zelle will now properly follow the player even if she is hit by a plasma grenade.

Powers and Combat

• The Efficiency Trait now works properly and applies proper bonuses.
• Merit rewards have been added to PVP reward tables.
• Updated Crystalline Entity to have more survivability and do more damage.
• Right clicking an officer candidate in the Officer Requisition list now shows a proper info window.
• Boarding Party has been updated so that it no longer generates long cool downs.
• Updated Torpedo Detonate power to fix the issue where plasma torpedoes constantly explode on players.
• Klingons will now get a variety of Bridge Officer types as rank up rewards, instead of always engineering officers.
• Fixed (increased) Crew capacity of Klingon Ships.
• Important Tuning of Klingon Carrier - Fixed Its Crew compliment, Increased it Max Power levels, Greatly Increased HP, slightly decreased Shields, Increased respawn time of fighters, Increased HP of Siphon Drones, Decreased level of Raider pet.
• Fixed subsystem targetting powers so they dont leave you weapons on a 10 second cooldown.
• Updated Tootlips for all Space and Ground weapon procs.
• Fixed debuff icons for all space and ground weapon procs.
• Fixed Tricobalt mines - they now detonate.

Characters and Ships

• Fixed Fed Escort 5 right impulse engine trail to align properly.
• Fixed clipping on Fed Escort 2 windows.

UI

• If you are in a Fleet that has a Uniform, the Fleet Uniforms can now be selected on the Tailoring window.
• The Character Selection Screen has been visually updated and now shows your character’s rank.
• Ship Creator / Editor has an Undo button.
• Auto-camera no longer uses fast rotations when out of combat.
• The Federation intro cut scene now uses a proper font and the subtitles have been centered.
• Changed the error message "You can only purchase this item once" to "You can only purchase this item once per character".
• Made some layout improvements to buttons on the Ship customization screen.
• Fixed a bug where biography for players was not showing in space. (Making players think their biography was wiped.)
• Fixed some camera-centering problems with several UI windows.
• Teammates should now correctly display remaining shields.
• Stores now display comparative tooltips.
• Updated the “North” mini map arrow to use an appropriate icon.
• Fixed an interaction issue where invisible windows would get drawn over the ship customization screen preventing mouse interaction.
• Friendly players should now con appropriately to you.
• Player Faction tooltip is now appropriate when you mouse over the team window.
• Renamed the option "Chat Privacy" to "Search visibility”.
• Item tooltips now properly offset from other windows.
• Right clicking a player does now gives you the option to kick that player even if they are on a different map.
• Bridge officer trainer stores show more appropriate tooltips.
• Character (right click) Info windows now show the selected character in an appropriate pose.
• The Advanced tab now highlights upon mouse-over when customizing your body options in Character Creation.
• During Character Creation when entering your Name, the formal name is now highlighted to show it is updated in response to pressing the random button.
• Fleet Uniforms now display properly when inspected in space.
• Removed the voice options when creating a Reclaimed Borg Bridge Officer (future feature)
• Added Exchange search category for ship mine weapons, since they were not getting included in the main ship weapons category.
• Fixed a very annoying bug where your power trays would be visibly doubled on screen.
• Double clicking to interact is now more sensitive to what needs to be clicked on.
• Renaming your character after purchasing the rename token now populates to all the character name fields properly.
• Removed the ability to drag some bridge officer candidates from the Assignments tab of Character Status window into bank or inventory.
• The units shown for "Maximum targeting distance" in the options UI is now appropriate to the region (space or ground).
• Choosing a ship name starting with a period no longer fails character creation, and instead gives an error.

 

[SunnyD]

Was this serious? I saw that game got bad reviews

Yes it's serious. It's a great MMO. I agree with Elcs and co. about it being a bit on the easy side, but since I'm essentially playing it casually - it works out for the better that way. Absolutely great story, good mechanics, and a phenomenal atmosphere. Something bad can be said about every game out there, FE is no different. However as a whole, coming from an indy studio with no franchise IP or anything behind it, FE is one hell of a game.

Fallen Earth was a fantastic MMO given bad reviews by those who were spoonfed easy levelling and couldnt understand that it was a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

A gritty and difficult MMO obviously too hard for the masses.

Again, I agree somewhat - it's easy to level up and do what you want. But then again, that's a plus - you can do whatever the hell you want.

Same here

If you knew what to do, you could earn tons of chips and experience by pew-pewing level 40-43's at level 25ish.

But in the grand scheme of things, Fallen Earth is a much harder MMO than most.

The learning curve is especially daunting with the skills. I still don't know what half of mine do, but that makes it that much more fun. FE isn't for everybody, that's for sure. But it makes for a great and very detailed RPG.

 

[Punter]

Really want to like Star Trek Online and have it be successful. Have not found a hook yet though. I am going to keep digging until I get a new/better ship and maybe it will be fun then.

(stupid post yes, but we are kind of back on topic now)

 

[SunnyD]

Really want to like Star Trek Online and have it be successful. Have not found a hook yet though. I am going to keep digging until I get a new/better ship and maybe it will be fun then.

(stupid post yes, but we are kind of back on topic now)

I'll tell you this - if you're a hardcore Trek fan/nerd, you're going to love the missions starting around LtC 2. There's several missions that have roots back in ToS - one of them sort of ties both the past and the present together.

Sort-of Spoiler below:

Spoiler

You end up being sent back in time by the Guardian of Forever through the mirror portal, immediately coming upon the USS Enterprise - which features some minor voice-over by Spock (Nimoy). The mission pulls in elements all the way from the future timeline involving Miral Paris as the Kuvah'Mahg - and the absolutely interesting and nicest touch to the mission is that it actually explains why ToS Klingons look more human-like than TNG and beyond Klingons, and it also ties in several other episode and movie elements as well.

^--- I left a good bit out, but still if you like surprises don't read the spoiler. Let me just say that this is by far the most well done mission in terms of actual story line that I've come across to date.

 

[lupi]

Found a chart some guy did testing weapon damage versus range. After a brief read it looked like he did a decent run through, and the very short synopsis is that energy weapons carry full damage out to about 2k, then drop of till 10k. Cannon/turret falls faster being only 40% effective at max while array damage is still at 65% at max.


Data feels right based on my experiences and another reason why you don't want to full impulse into an encounter.

 

[Elcs]

One thing I haven't noticed being discussed is any death penalty within the game.

Is there a penalty for dying and if so what is it? What happens to you, your crew and your ship?

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

One thing I haven't noticed being discussed is any death penalty within the game.

Is there a penalty for dying and if so what is it? What happens to you, your crew and your ship?

You are assimilated into the Borg. Resistance is futile.

 

[SunnyD]

One thing I haven't noticed being discussed is any death penalty within the game.

Is there a penalty for dying and if so what is it? What happens to you, your crew and your ship?

You respawn 10 seconds later at the last respawn checkpoint. Your death penalty is a 10 second respawn timer.

What the hell is it with people and death penalties in games? Are you all really that masochistic or something?

 

[Elcs]

You respawn 10 seconds later at the last respawn checkpoint. Your death penalty is a 10 second respawn timer.

What the hell is it with people and death penalties in games? Are you all really that masochistic or something?

Erm ... no. Keep your Wizard hat on fair traveller.

I am a big PvE fan and very rarely PvP in an MMO as there is typically some fudge skillset or build which can seriously wtfpwn you in 1 second and involves little skill.

Some death penalties are insanely harsh and game hurting whilst others are too carebear'ish. This typically depends on the game itself and it's community.

As mentioned, I am tempted to pick it up for just the single month as it doesnt appear to have much to keep players entertained for longer than that. I would be afraid of burning out the content or levelling within 2 weeks tops at a guesstimate.

 

[SunnyD]

Erm ... no. Keep your Wizard hat on fair traveller.

I am a big PvE fan and very rarely PvP in an MMO as there is typically some fudge skillset or build which can seriously wtfpwn you in 1 second and involves little skill.

Some death penalties are insanely harsh and game hurting whilst others are too carebear'ish. This typically depends on the game itself and it's community.

As mentioned, I am tempted to pick it up for just the single month as it doesnt appear to have much to keep players entertained for longer than that. I would be afraid of burning out the content or levelling within 2 weeks tops at a guesstimate.

Sorry, it was really a general rant, not directed specifically at you. On the STO forums daily there's usually a dozen or so new threads about "Where's the death penalty?" It irritates me that people want to take a step backwards in progress when it comes to games - especially casual games. The only reason most people ask for a death penalty is for the PvP aspects because they themselves want to grief others and get off on someone's misery. To each their own I suppose, but I wonder how their tune would be if the tables were reversed for a while.

 

[Elcs]

Sorry, it was really a general rant, not directed specifically at you. On the STO forums daily there's usually a dozen or so new threads about "Where's the death penalty?" It irritates me that people want to take a step backwards in progress when it comes to games - especially casual games. The only reason most people ask for a death penalty is for the PvP aspects because they themselves want to grief others and get off on someone's misery. To each their own I suppose, but I wonder how their tune would be if the tables were reversed for a while.

I like a death penalty in a game because it forces me to stay safe, keep alive and gives you that rush when you either just finish someone off in time or escape a bad situation by the skin of your teeth.

Certain death penalties like losing items or losing your entire ship/cargo/crew are generally overly harsh and kill the game for a PvE'er.

I have to admit from the general feel I get from the game, a death penalty would fit in nicely.

 

[lupi]

Please find the release notes for February 5, 2010 below:

General
The Admiral promotion mission will now complete if players choose a fleet escort as their reward. This is not retro-active. If you’re an Admiral with a dangling promotion mission because you chose an escort, please submit a ticket to CS.
Cardassian "Empire Defense" mission maps are now open to Klingon players.
K7 station has been decloaked and returned to the sector map. Alleged perpetrators are being interrogated.
The "Abandon Ship" power is now only available while in combat.
General server optimization to increase performance.

 

[heat901]

I kinda like that there is no penalty for death for a number of reasons. For one I would have raged quit right probably the first day because if there was some kind of penalty I would either have to keep rerolling characters or I would never have a ship. I think its fairly easy to die in this game and when you roll klingon all you do is fight stuff all the time and die. I feel as if you are klingon and you arent dying, you arent doing something right....

 

[FerraraZ]

Fallen Earth was a fantastic MMO given bad reviews by those who were spoonfed easy levelling and couldnt understand that it was a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

A gritty and difficult MMO obviously too hard for the masses.

I'm trying the trial now

 

[SunnyD]

I'm trying the trial now

No you're not. The servers just crashed. :biggrin:

Oh, you mean Fallen Earth. Nevermind.

 

[drebo]

No you're not. The servers just crashed. :biggrin:

Oh, you mean Fallen Earth. Nevermind.

Yeah, I guess I totally chose the wrong night to try this game. Oh well.

Also, is it bad to have named my ship the U.S.S. Gotterdammerung?

 

[damocles]

I like a death penalty in a game because it forces me to stay safe, keep alive and gives you that rush when you either just finish someone off in time or escape a bad situation by the skin of your teeth.

Certain death penalties like losing items or losing your entire ship/cargo/crew are generally overly harsh and kill the game for a PvE'er.

I have to admit from the general feel I get from the game, a death penalty would fit in nicely.

In general I like death penalities too as they make dungeon crawls and the like a little more intense. I'm not sure I would want one in STO though

 

[lupi]

K7 is pretty funny now. They've got a group of security types interrogating a klingon asking how he made the starbase get cloaked.

 

[Molondo]

Not sure if there is one, but i'm looking for a trial version. Can't find it on the website.