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Kaido said:
For the record, I think spoiler tags in a discussion thread are stupid, because if you haven't seen the movie, you shouldn't be reading this thread. But to avoid the haters, I have them.
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The discussion thread is WAY older than the movie. Many people saw the movie before it was even available to watch for many others. Hard to say when they should "pull out" and cover their eyes.
 
EliteRetard said:
I knew everything that was going to happen long before it did because I'm not an idiot.
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Really?

EliteRetard said:
Not sure what your getting at here? What I'm saying is they are breaking their own mechanics here. "YOU MUST HAVE A WARP CORE TO USE ANY MAJOR SYSTEM!" But they show you that you don't need a warp core to teleport across the galaxy and you don't need a warp core to keep your shields. Though everything else on the ship is now broken somehow including the transporters, because the warp core is broken. They can power shields but not thrusters? But wait, then the shields are down when they fall into gravity, but then they come back again when Kirk kicks the warp core?
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How did you NOT see this kind of stuff coming? This is par for the course in Star Trek, it's been like this for the last 30 years. WTF did you expect? Yeah it's a longtime running joke by now, but it is also something expected in any Trek movie or show. If you don't like it, don't watch Star Trek.
 
Saw this a week ago and meant to comment. My bro and I watched it in 3d and I was really surprised the 3d didn't fuck me up. I didn't have any headaches or anything after leaving. Loved the moovie also. Not a huge Trekkie or anything, but I thought the movie in general was very entertaining.
 
The warp core does not account for 100% of a ships system power. It can be inoperable without shields or weapons going out, though they are not as effective nor sustainable for an unlimited amount of time. (Main battery, Auxiliary Power)
 
Saw it yesterday. Wasn't really sure how I felt about it, to be honest. Mulled it over and came to the conclusion:

I didn't really like it.

Ultimately, I think Khan was written lazily as a villain. They traded his intellect for something more physically impressive/invulnerable. He wasn't particularly cunning, and a lot of stuff that he did seemed to make no sense whatsoever. He was just as hollow of a character as Nero was in Star Trek (2009).

Just one man's opinion. I avoided all reviews/spoilers prior to seeing it, so I wasn't even aware that a lot of Trek fans were disappointed.
 
Saw it last night.

Meh. Take it or leave it.

I watched STII the other night and it is a much better film!

These new films totally lack the character development and "familial" development that we came to know and love from the original and TNG crews.

What do I like?
-I really do like the new industrial feel of the Enterprise. Seems far more realistic than the clean, plastic feel of the other ships.
-Reversing the Kirk/Spock "death" scene from STII was indeed cute as the exact same lines are used but swapped.
-Nimoy cameo is fun despite him violating the temporal prime directive.
-The most memorable New Character is Karl Urban. Followed by Simon Pegg.
-The FX on the whole are quite stunning.

What do I not like?
-The movie was far too easy to read. As soon as Mr. Scott finds the New Ship, you know he's going to play Mr. Sabotage at some point. Same goes for the blood+tribble scene. The foreshadowing is way too simple.
-Plot holes galore: Enterprise warps out of the Neutral Zone for all of a few minutes before New Ship arrives and starts a battle...that happens to be in Earth orbit. How did they get there so fast?
-Far too little Klingon screen time!
-Plot parallels to modern war on terror are lame.
-The uniformed militarism of the depicted 23rd Century is far more Nazi-like than the utopian society that Gene Roddenberry imagined.
 
Saw it last night, and I thought it was great, but over all the first one was better. Plot was kind of loss, and my fiance was lost at some points. I mean if you make a movie, you cant expect everyone to be a treker.

Cumberbatch's face gets WEIRD (/workaholics) when he gets angry.

Id actually like to see it again to see if I missed anything the first time
 
GunsMadeAmericaFree said:
One of the main characters resigns from his post for ethical reasons for all of 20 minutes. Another is demoted for perhaps 15 minutes before being reinstated to his original post. Another main character dies - for about 10 minutes before being brought back to life just like in the comic books, completely negating any meaningful reaction from fans to his death and noble sacrifice. The movie is chock full of very temporary changes like this, to the point of aggravation.
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Agreed. Don't forget Chekov apparently shadowed Mr. Scott enough to be promoted to chief engineer instead of any of the engineers who actually worked in engineering. (I know his character in the old arc had engineering training but jumping him from navigator to chief engineer is a bit of a stretch)

And you build a secret star base where you might want to be be aware of who is coming and going, have a bunch of shuttles with windows and sensors but you don't notice an extra shuttle just happens to join the middle of your flight group when you get to your secret base?

Also - super distance communicators and super power transporters everywhere now

I liked the movie as a sci fi movie but I was disappointing as a ST movie (wouldn't be the first time though...) and replaying the whole Khan thing seemed a bit flat to me
 
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Exterous said:
Agreed. Don't forget Chekov apparently shadowed Mr. Scott enough to be promoted to chief engineer instead of any of the engineers who actually worked in engineering. (I know his character in the old arc had engineering training but jumping him from navigator to chief engineer is a bit of a stretch)

And you build a secret star base where you might want to be be aware of who is coming and going, have a bunch of shuttles with windows and sensors but you don't notice an extra shuttle just happens to join the middle of your flight group when you get to your secret base?

Also - super distance communicators and super power transporters everywhere now

I liked the movie as a sci fi movie but I was disappointing as a ST movie (wouldn't be the first time though...) and replaying the whole Khan thing seemed a bit flat to me
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Not defending that, but I think Chekov is an officer and the other people may have just been crewmen.
 
Dedpuhl said:
When I watch movies, I try not to over analyze them. That's why I liked this movie right after I saw it. I watched the RLM review earlier today, and now I'm starting to think about the plot and realize the writing was absolute shit.
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The more I thought about Prometheus, the more I disliked it...until I eventually couldn't stand to think of watching it again. The common link here is Damon Lindelof.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/17...iler-special-burning-questions-answered.jhtml

As long as Damon and J.J. remain "best buds," Damon will keep ruining a competent film maker's movies with his shit writing.

HOW DID RIDLEY SCOTT ASSOCIATE WITH THIS NO-TALENT PRETENTIOUS FUCK?!?
 
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This movie could have been good, if it were not a Star Trek movie, and if it didn't "borrow" half it's script from the greatest Star Trek movie ever. It ended up being not so much a movie but rather a "hey, I remember that!" kind of thing throughout.

The more I think about various things in this new movie afterwards, the more and more I hate the movie. As a "for instance" the first moment in the gathering of officers has Peter Weller at the lead (I had to look up his name), I could pretty much predict the basic layout of the remainder of the movie. Weller would play a good role as a Texas high-school football coach, not the top man in Starfleet Command...

And, no, Harold does _not_ get to be Sulu! I'm sorry you have been typecasted, you are not Sulu. It took you an entire night to find a White Castle, you are not qualified to helm the Enterprise.

And don't even start me on Khan's 5-hour mid-picture monologue on who he is and what he's doing... sheesh...


The thing I loved about the old Star Trek were the moral dilemmas and basic humanity. Now it's 90% mindless action, shut off your brain and watch things smash into other things!
 
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How did this get to be the STII and The Undiscovered Country combined into one movie?

One thing I did not like was the space battle. They were too fast. Just really brief shots, unlike TWK. If you take out the first scene in the ocean, and the cloud scene, there are no scenes of just flying around. In STII, it would take its time to show the phasers burning through the warp nacelle, or moving through the nebula, or even several seconds Kahn speeding the ship up to catch the Enterprise.
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Makes me think of this

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Look familiar?

Like others have said, I liked it for a sci-fi movie, but I am still on the fence about it being a ST movie.
 
I saw it today with my son. We both loved the movie. I'd like to see it again actually, probably pick it up when it comes out on Blue Ray.
 
I just saw it today. I enjoyed it for what it was, but otherwise I found its lack of consistency, its complete disregard for physics in many different ways, and a bit too much fanservice really really hurt it.
 
For all the fan service, we didn't really get to see the Enterprise fire a single phaser or torpedo. Has that ever happened before in a trek film?
 
I think the first is a great movie, not just a great Star Trek movie. I thought the opening sequence is some of the best movie magic and best writing ever.

The sequel is not as good. The vilains were tedious. Khan isn't British, he's Ricardo Montelban!! They should have had the character be a member of Khan's crew, if they didn't want to bother coming up with something new.

It's worth the money to see it.
 
Hmmm... I saw it this weekend and again, just like the first movie I think the story is moronic, but it was a fun ride anyway. It has nothing on the original Khan movie though. Not even in the same league. I just didn't care about this Khan, whereas I cared a lot about the Khan character in the original, despite the fact it was Ricardo Montalban playing an Indian guy with a heavy Mexican accent.
 
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