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Star Citizen Development Discussion (Is Derek Smart Right?)

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JSt0rm

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my favorite part about all this crowd funding stuff is lord british loved buying property so naturally his game had different types of property for sale to backers and croberts was a used car salesman so naturally he has different "cars" for sale to backers. Like what?
 

Father Torque

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Since 2015 Dr. Smart has been tweeting every 15 minutes about the impending doom of Star Citizen. The E.L.E supposedly happened in 2016. 2017 was the year it all was supposed to fall apart.

Its beginning to look like Croberts = Trump , Dsmart/goons = liberal media

Roberts is playing 4-D intergalactic chess while Dr. Smart is playing tic tac toe.Derek is trying to punch 5 weightclasses above where he belongs. Roberts is on a whole other level.

A year from now they will be asking Citizens to answer the call "2019" while selling toilet seat warmers as they surge pass 200 million as Crytek issues a public apology.
 

JSt0rm

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Since 2015 Dr. Smart has been tweeting every 15 minutes about the impending doom of Star Citizen. The E.L.E supposedly happened in 2016. 2017 was the year it all was supposed to fall apart.

Its beginning to look like Croberts = Trump , Dsmart/goons = liberal media

Roberts is playing 4-D intergalactic chess while Dr. Smart is playing tic tac toe.Derek is trying to punch 5 weightclasses above where he belongs. Roberts is on a whole other level.

A year from now they will be asking Citizens to answer the call "2019" while selling toilet seat warmers as they surge pass 200 million as Crytek issues a public apology.
Derek makes this whole thing even funnier. Embrace him commando!
 

JSt0rm

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the butt cancer guy that all the star citizen fan boys ripped on is dead... looks like he also wont see a finished game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7o-uDmvio

Jeffrey McArthur passed away on Friday in Exton PA, aged 61.

An avid gamer and geek through and through, Jeffrey was diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer in December 2015 and came to our attention early in 2016 when he made a video asking if he "was too stupid to play Star Citizen", which resulted in him facing abuse from some of the more toxic members of the SC fanbase.

After undergoing surgery and chemotherapy, a CT scan in July 2016 showed his cancer to be gone, and he continued working and making many videos on his hobbies, gaming, computers, and Dungeons & Dragons.

In August this year, another CT scan showed his colon cancer had returned and spread, eventually metastasizing to his stomach. With a prognosis of only a 50% chance of surviving to the end of the year, Jeffrey decided not to undergo chemotherapy again, chosing to enjoy what time he had left to live without suffering the side effects that chemo had on his senses.

Jeffrey faced his death with immense grace and dignity, and I am very grateful to him for sharing his story with us along the way.

Rest in peace, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey's tribute to his late wife Jeannine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmFNM97DRs

Jeffrey's video about the cancer returning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhQe_qSavI

Jeffrey's last video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYWQ86QQ-0Q

A fun comments from a star citizen defending mlady:

I call bullshit. or to answer your question yes you are too stupid to play this game along with many many others. especially when you CHOSE to act stupid. lame dude "I could learn how to play, but I'm just a casual player"
 

zinfamous

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Since 2015 Dr. Smart has been tweeting every 15 minutes about the impending doom of Star Citizen. The E.L.E supposedly happened in 2016. 2017 was the year it all was supposed to fall apart.

Its beginning to look like Croberts = Trump , Dsmart/goons = liberal media

Roberts is playing 4-D intergalactic chess while Dr. Smart is playing tic tac toe.Derek is trying to punch 5 weightclasses above where he belongs. Roberts is on a whole other level.

A year from now they will be asking Citizens to answer the call "2019" while selling toilet seat warmers as they surge pass 200 million as Crytek issues a public apology.

...are you saying that Trump is the brilliant tactitian in your analogy?

Oh dear....
 

KMFJD

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the butt cancer guy that all the star citizen fan boys ripped on is dead... looks like he also wont see a finished game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7o-uDmvio

Jeffrey McArthur passed away on Friday in Exton PA, aged 61.

An avid gamer and geek through and through, Jeffrey was diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer in December 2015 and came to our attention early in 2016 when he made a video asking if he "was too stupid to play Star Citizen", which resulted in him facing abuse from some of the more toxic members of the SC fanbase.

After undergoing surgery and chemotherapy, a CT scan in July 2016 showed his cancer to be gone, and he continued working and making many videos on his hobbies, gaming, computers, and Dungeons & Dragons.

In August this year, another CT scan showed his colon cancer had returned and spread, eventually metastasizing to his stomach. With a prognosis of only a 50% chance of surviving to the end of the year, Jeffrey decided not to undergo chemotherapy again, chosing to enjoy what time he had left to live without suffering the side effects that chemo had on his senses.

Jeffrey faced his death with immense grace and dignity, and I am very grateful to him for sharing his story with us along the way.

Rest in peace, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey's tribute to his late wife Jeannine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmFNM97DRs

Jeffrey's video about the cancer returning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhQe_qSavI

Jeffrey's last video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYWQ86QQ-0Q

A fun comments from a star citizen defending mlady:

I call bullshit. or to answer your question yes you are too stupid to play this game along with many many others. especially when you CHOSE to act stupid. lame dude "I could learn how to play, but I'm just a casual player"
people can be dicks
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Since 2015 Dr. Smart has been tweeting every 15 minutes about the impending doom of Star Citizen. The E.L.E supposedly happened in 2016. 2017 was the year it all was supposed to fall apart.

Its beginning to look like Croberts = Trump , Dsmart/goons = liberal media

Roberts is playing 4-D intergalactic chess while Dr. Smart is playing tic tac toe.Derek is trying to punch 5 weightclasses above where he belongs. Roberts is on a whole other level.

A year from now they will be asking Citizens to answer the call "2019" while selling toilet seat warmers as they surge pass 200 million as Crytek issues a public apology.



the fact that you think Roberts is playing 4d lol
 

JSt0rm

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lol this owns.. in regards to cigs response as to why cryteks claim is wrong...

Annoying effort legal post incoming!

The motion will get denied, as it is being filed under FRCP 12(b)6. This particular rule in the charming Federal Rules of Civil Procedure handbook states that a motion can be filed in defense "for failure to state a claim for which relief can be granted." This denial is indisputable and inarguable because the standard for a dismissal under FRCP rule 12(b)6 is "In appraising the sufficiency of a complaint for failure to state a claim is that a complaint should not be dismissed ...unless it appears beyond doubt that the plaintiff can prove no set of facts in support of his claim which would entitle him to relief." Conley v. Gibson (1957), 355 U.S. 41 (emphasis added). That's a SCOTUS ruling; this binds all the courts in the Federal system, including our little district court.

That is to say, the standard is to weed out the cases that are either totally incompatible with the legal system -- alleging a witch put an evil eye on a child, say. Or asking for declaratory ruling that you're the God King of Arrakis. As the rule says, there's no "relief" available to such a claim in the law or equity; we do not recognize the outcome or we do not recognize that this is a "thing" for which you can sue someone over. Really technical analysis of the claims can be very hair-splitting if the elements of the law that support the claim are complex. But if you read that tiny excerpt from the ruling (which is part of every 1L's CivPro syllabus) then there's no objective way to grant the motion, because Crytek's claims are pretty straightforward: there exists a contract, CIG broke it, Crytek was harmed, give us money.

See, whether or not we get to the actual merits of the claims in the response, CIG has already severely [removed] up by trying to substitute Crytek's facts with their own. "Unless it appears beyond doubt that the plaintiff can prove no set of facts in support of his claim." CIG does NOT get to do that. You do NOT get to say "well if my version of the facts are right, then you must dismiss!" NO! That's what 1L students [removed] up and civpro professors have to hammer that in to their thick skulls. You dismiss if you look at it under every possible angle and can't find a way to proceed. The standard is so high that it's almost never granted when a cause of action is brought by an actual trained lawyer since it's for obvious losers and they should be getting laughed out of the attorney's office, nevermind at the stage that you're reading your rubbish case in front of a judge.

I looked at the table of contents on the response, saw that CIG was trying to argue on the merits and closed the PDF. If you have to argue the very facts of the case, guess what dumbass? You've got an actual "case or controversy" ripe for judicial intervention! You've proven to the court that procedurally it should hear both sides because the one side where Crytek's facts prevail, CIG is [removed]. On the one hand if the response is true, CIG is not [Removed]. And the only way to do that...is to go through the entire process of holding a trial and evaluating evidence! Congratulations CIG, you forgot basic CivPro. I'm hope you're happy.

(I am because this is hilarious to me)
You were clearly warned on serveral occasions no profanity allowed in Tech forums.

This even applies to quotes.


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bbhaag

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Is there any way you can break that down so we can see the lol and the owns you are referring to. I'm going out on a limb here but I'm guessing most of us myself included don't speak legalize. Is there a haha moment we should be aware of? I guess I'm just not all that familiar with FRCP 12(b)6 filings and the Conley v. Gibson (1957), 355 U.S. 41 court ruling and how that applies to RSI.
 
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JSt0rm

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Is there any way you can break that down so we can see the lol and the owns you are referring to. I'm going out on a limb here but I'm guessing most of us myself included don't speak legalize. Is there a haha moment we should be aware of? I guess I'm just not all that familiar with FRCP 12(b)6 filings and the Conley v. Gibson (1957), 355 U.S. 41 court ruling and how that applies to RSI.
If your brain was able to make it to the second paragraph it would all reveal itself to you.
 

JSt0rm

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Just a random goon. Nothing to worry yourself over. I just thought that it was interesting in a “look how incompetent cig is” way.
 

gorobei

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this came up in my youtube suggestion list: part 4 of the sunken cost galaxy documentary
https://youtu.be/76VwCNZvQ1g?t=637
link is for the history of the ships sold, i only had a vague notion of how absurd it was from skimming the other sc thread. but seriously, wow. [link is set for the tetris infographic]
 

Skel

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this came up in my youtube suggestion list: part 4 of the sunken cost galaxy documentary
https://youtu.be/76VwCNZvQ1g?t=637
link is for the history of the ships sold, i only had a vague notion of how absurd it was from skimming the other sc thread. but seriously, wow. [link is set for the tetris infographic]
One of the most fascinating things about this game to me is how much some people pay for things that haven't been made into the game yet.. in some cases the ships people spent hundreds on have been missing for years. I can't blame SC for selling them, nor do I look down upon those who buy them. I just find it interesting some people's trust levels in something like this. In the vast graveyard of failed game kickstarters this game somehow keeps raising funds. It's really amazing.
 

JSt0rm

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One of the most fascinating things about this game to me is how much some people pay for things that haven't been made into the game yet.. in some cases the ships people spent hundreds on have been missing for years. I can't blame SC for selling them, nor do I look down upon those who buy them. I just find it interesting some people's trust levels in something like this. In the vast graveyard of failed game kickstarters this game somehow keeps raising funds. It's really amazing.
they dont call it sunk cost galaxy for nothing.
 

Father Torque

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I think Derek has thrown up the white flag in his crusade against Chris Roberts. All he does is tweet about Trump now. I dont know how he expects to defeat Trump though being that he got curb stomped by CRoberts.I do admire his fighting spirit
 

zinfamous

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I think Derek has thrown up the white flag in his crusade against Chris Roberts. All he does is tweet about Trump now. I dont know how he expects to defeat Trump though being that he got curb stomped by CRoberts.I do admire his fighting spirit
Trump is defeating Trump as we post. Derek doesn't really need to worry about "winning" that one.
 

Skel

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I think Derek has thrown up the white flag in his crusade against Chris Roberts. All he does is tweet about Trump now. I dont know how he expects to defeat Trump though being that he got curb stomped by CRoberts.I do admire his fighting spirit
I don't keep close tabs on DS or CR. Did CR do something that shut DS up, or was is your comment just because he moved on and CS is still going and earning?
 

JSt0rm

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I think Derek has thrown up the white flag in his crusade against Chris Roberts. All he does is tweet about Trump now. I dont know how he expects to defeat Trump though being that he got curb stomped by CRoberts.I do admire his fighting spirit
amen brother. Al hail the great roberts...

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Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

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The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.
 

JSt0rm

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WHAT dire Offence from am'rous Causes springs,
What mighty Quarrels rise from Financial Things,
I sing — This Verse to Derek, Muse! is due;
This, ev'n Sandi may vouchsafe to view:
Slight is the Subject, but not so the Praise,
If Sandi inspire, and Chris approve my Lays.

Say what strange Motive, Goddess! cou'd compel
A well-bred Derek t'paarp a gentle Roberts-Belle?
Oh say what stranger Cause, yet unexplor'd,
Cou'd make a gentle Roberts refund a Smart-Lord?
And dwells such Rage in softest Bosoms then?
And lodge such daring Souls in Little Men?


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In Lumberyard the packets flow
Between the servers, row on row,
That mesh our shards; and in the 'verse
The shills, still bravely streaming, curse
Scarce heard amid the goons below.

We are the Pledged. Short days ago
We paid, felt smug, saw Roberts glow,
Played and were played, and now we fly
In Lumberyard.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
If Derek posts, don't let it go--
The dreams be yours so hold them high.
If ye refund from those who lie
We shall not sleep, though nothing grows
In Lumberyard.
 

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