Standup Citizen George Zimmerman

[Svnla]

Geez. You do understand that by understanding the context of a line in relation to a paragraph, you can interpret the sarcasm of that line. No wonder why sarcasm is lost on you. You have more fundamental issues with Reading Comprehension.

Like you said you would leave this forum forever. Was that sarcasm that I missed? Reading comprehension you said, eh?

Just admit that you have a long history of double talk. Period.

 

[emperus]

His duties as the NW was to observe and report, which is what he tried to do by trying to see if TM had ran out the back gate as others had previously. Based on the evidence TM is the one that came back to confront GZ and not the other way around.

It's fundamentally amazing how some people in this forum can't assimilate new information. A lot of people tried to tell you that GZ was a violent hothead (from his past information (arrest for police assault, domestic violence charge and bouncer stories)). And you guys made him out to be just a salt of the earth guy out to protect his neighborhood and who would rescue kittens from trees. They sold that bill of goods to the jury and he was acquitted.

So, he gets out, gets pulled over a couple of times for speeding, assaults his wife's dad, takes out a knife and cuts open an IPAD (who does that, but a psychopath), his wife divorces him, destroys his ex-wife's parents property, gets arrested for assaulting his girlfriend (who he then takes back), signs up to try to fight DMX (though I'm sure we were told by his defense team that he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag), and now another story of him saying he would kill someone.

Yet even after everything we knew then that is now corroborated by everything we know now about how uncontrollable and violent GZ is, there are people in this forum who want to ignore all that and act like GZ controlled himself that night and all that he wanted to do was inform the police where TM was.

Please. From the moment he left his car till today, what good decisions has the man ever made? My gosh.

 

[chucky2]

It's not that we ignore it, it's that the racist wanna be thug school fighter TM decided to go assault someone and got himself killed. We just stick to what we know (or, as much as we can reasonably, not emo, infer based on available information) rather than what we want to be because we want that evil Whitey, wait, half Whitey (good enough!), jailed because he had the audacity not to ignore something he thought suspicious in a public area and the greater audacity to not take his beat down by The Black Man like Whitey should.

We get it. Your thought processes were clear in the TM thread, no need to go back into them here...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yet, to this day you or no one else has been able to provide any evidence that disproved his claim of self defense............NONE!!!! He should have never been arrested, charged, or tried per Florida's law. However, the jurist got it right when they found him not guilty on all charges.

 

[cubby1223]

It's fundamentally amazing how some people in this forum can't assimilate new information. A lot of people tried to tell you that GZ was a violent hothead (from his past information (arrest for police assault, domestic violence charge and bouncer stories)). And you guys made him out to be just a salt of the earth guy out to protect his neighborhood and who would rescue kittens from trees. They sold that bill of goods to the jury and he was acquitted.

So, he gets out, gets pulled over a couple of times for speeding, assaults his wife's dad, takes out a knife and cuts open an IPAD (who does that, but a psychopath), his wife divorces him, destroys his ex-wife's parents property, gets arrested for assaulting his girlfriend (who he then takes back), signs up to try to fight DMX (though I'm sure we were told by his defense team that he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag), and now another story of him saying he would kill someone.

Yet even after everything we knew then that is now corroborated by everything we know now about how uncontrollable and violent GZ is, there are people in this forum who want to ignore all that and act like GZ controlled himself that night and all that he wanted to do was inform the police where TM was.

Please. From the moment he left his car till today, what good decisions has them man every made? My gosh.

You're beginning to sound like a stalker with an unhealthy obsession.

 

[emperus]

It's not that we ignore it, it's that the racist wanna be thug school fighter TM decided to go assault someone and got himself killed. We just stick to what we know (or, as much as we can reasonably, not emo, infer based on available information) rather than what we want to be because we want that evil Whitey, wait, half Whitey (good enough!), jailed because he had the audacity not to ignore something he thought suspicious in a public area and the greater audacity to not take his beat down by The Black Man like Whitey should.

We get it. Your thought processes were clear in the TM thread, no need to go back into them here...

The problem is that you don't know any of that. Your views are based on your fears of the "other". This other being a black teenager.

But it's ok. I'm ok with my position that a person I know is violent and a hot head who carried a gun would be chasing someone, rather than that a teenager who was about 200 ft from his home, went home and came back to attack someone who was chasing him without even getting a weapon first. I hope you are comfortable with your position and putting your faith in George Zimmerman.

What's interesting, is that the races were reversed, I'm more than sure you'd be arguing the other side.

 

[chucky2]

The problem is that you don't know any of that. Your views are based on your fears of the "other". This other being a black teenager.

But it's ok. I'm ok with my position that a person I know is violent and a hot head who carried a gun would be chasing someone, rather than a teenager who was about 200 ft from his home, went home and came back to attack someone who was chasing him without even getting a weapon first. I hope you are comfortable with your position and putting your faith in George Zimmerman.

I don't know what to say to this other than you must have completely forgot the TM/GZ thread and all the evidence (and leak) dumps. I'd say go back and re-read it, but, that thread is so incredibly long no one in their right mind could be expected to do that. Then again, I don't think you're right in the mind, so...could you re-read it and then come back here? Maybe just re-read the last 3 months of it?

 

[emperus]

Yet, to this day you or no one else has been able to provide any evidence that disproved his claim of self defense............NONE!!!! He should have never been arrested, charged, or tried per Florida's law. However, the jurist got it right when they found him not guilty on all charges.

And when the intellectual dishonesty of your position is exposed you vacillate to legalize.

 

[nehalem256]

The problem is that you don't know any of that. Your views are based on your fears of the "other". This other being a black teenager.

But it's ok. I'm ok with my position that a person I know is violent and a hot head who carried a gun would be chasing someone, rather than that a teenager who was about 200 ft from his home, went home and came back to attack someone who was chasing him without even getting a weapon first. I hope you are comfortable with your position and putting your faith in George Zimmerman.

What's interesting, is that the races were reversed, I'm more than sure you'd be arguing the other side.

The problem is that is what the prosecution's star witness said happened. Note that said star witness was herself black since that seems to matter to you.

 

[emperus]

I don't know what to say to this other than you must have completely forgot the TM/GZ thread and all the evidence (and leak) dumps. I'd say go back and re-read it, but, that thread is so incredibly long no one in their right mind could be expected to do that. Then again, I don't think you're right in the mind, so...could you re-read it and then come back here? Maybe just re-read the last 3 months of it?

You continue to make up things that have never been evidence.

 

[emperus]

The problem is that is what the prosecution's star witness said happened. Note that said star witness was herself black since that seems to matter to you.

I'll give you a challenge. Go dig out the star witnesses court transcript and post a cipt where she said he went home and then came back to confront GZ. I bet you won't find it because it never happened.

 

[chucky2]

You continue to make up things that have never been evidence.

Not even going to attempt to get into this further with you. Others, have fun. Take my word from the TM/GZ thread: Short of TM himself rising from the dead and telling emperus personally that it was all his complete and total fault he made it all the way home before GZ was ever close to him, and then decided to go back and assault GZ, you will never convince him/her what (as far as the info we have) went down that night. I wish you all luck...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And when the intellectual dishonesty of your position is exposed you vacillate to legalize.

The prosecution put on a case with no backing evidence. Only those who can't separate their emotion from logic fail to see this as being the case. Luckily in America the charges against a person must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, the prosecution had no evidence that could do such so the jury found GZ not guilty. None of your BS you're trying to sell will change this.

Have a nice butthurt day.

 

[shortylickens]

That dude needs to leave the country and cut off all contact with humanity.
Just so P&N can go on with their lives.

 

[Adrenaline]

Even if what you say is true, TM wouldn't have gone back if there was never an initial encounter to begin with.

Sure he would, because he did go back. If he wasn't home, he had a clear shot at the house.

Unfortunately, the star witness for the prosecutor talked about TM going back and heard TM ask GZ questions to start the confrontation.

 

[Orignal Earl]

She said that Martin told her that a man was watching him from his vehicle while talking on the phone before the man started following Martin. Martin told his friend at one point that he had lost the man but the man suddenly appeared again.[135][136][139] The friend, originally known only as "Witness 8" (now known as Rachel Jeantel), said that she told Martin to run to the townhouse where he was staying with his father and the father's fiancée.[136] She then heard Martin say, "What are you following me for?" followed by a man's voice responding, "What are you doing around here?" She testified that she then heard what sounded like Martin's phone earpiece dropping into wet grass, and she heard the sound of Martin's voice saying "Get off! Get off!" The phone then went dead, she said: "I was trying to say Trayvon, Trayvon, what's going on," Jeantel testified. "I started hearing a little of Trayvon saying 'Get off, get off,'" when the phone went silent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

 

[emperus]

Not even going to attempt to get into this further with you. Others, have fun. Take my word from the TM/GZ thread: Short of TM himself rising from the dead and telling emperus personally that it was all his complete and total fault he made it all the way home before GZ was ever close to him, and then decided to go back and assault GZ, you will never convince him/her what (as far as the info we have) went down that night. I wish you all luck...

Lol. Does that even make sense to you? He gets home and comes back determined to get into a fist fight with the guy who's been following him for 1/2 a mile. Even the defense knew how stupid that sounded, thus they tried to argue that he had a weapon (which turned out to be a piece of an awning that fell of a house).

 

[Adrenaline]

It's fundamentally amazing how some people in this forum can't assimilate new information. A lot of people tried to tell you that GZ was a violent hothead (from his past information (arrest for police assault, domestic violence charge and bouncer stories)). And you guys made him out to be just a salt of the earth guy out to protect his neighborhood and who would rescue kittens from trees. They sold that bill of goods to the jury and he was acquitted.

So, he gets out, gets pulled over a couple of times for speeding, assaults his wife's dad, takes out a knife and cuts open an IPAD (who does that, but a psychopath), his wife divorces him, destroys his ex-wife's parents property, gets arrested for assaulting his girlfriend (who he then takes back), signs up to try to fight DMX (though I'm sure we were told by his defense team that he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag), and now another story of him saying he would kill someone.

Yet even after everything we knew then that is now corroborated by everything we know now about how uncontrollable and violent GZ is, there are people in this forum who want to ignore all that and act like GZ controlled himself that night and all that he wanted to do was inform the police where TM was.

Please. From the moment he left his car till today, what good decisions has the man ever made? My gosh.

He assaulted his wife's dad? I'm sure there is video or an eye witness to this so they can press charges. I don't even remember much about this, but hey you can bring it up. Nothing came of it.

His GF that he supposedly assaulted withdrew charges because it never happened. She wanted him back. She didn't want him to leave her.

I have a serious question though. How does anyone in their right mind relate this incident to the murder of Emmett Till?

 

[dank69]

So wikipedia is not mentioning the fact there was 4 minutes from the time TM ran until the altercation occurred, which is close to the area from which he had run?

Not that I saw.

 

[emperus]

He assaulted his wife's dad? I'm sure there is video or an eye witness to this so they can press charges. I don't even remember much about this, but hey you can bring it up. Nothing came of it.

His GF that he supposedly assaulted withdrew charges because it never happened. She wanted him back. She didn't want him to leave her.

I have a serious question though. How does anyone in their right mind relate this incident to the murder of Emmett Till?

I have this view that if 1 person says something, they could be lying. Two people they could still possible be lying. But when it's like 7-8 there has to be some truth in it because they can't all be lying.

So, do you really believe everyone in his life is lying on him? From his ex-gf and that restraining order she filed, his current wife and him assaulting her dad to his new girlfriend and that he domestically abusing her?

Btw, I guess the video I saw of Ray Rice knocking out his wife was fabricated because she took him back and even wrote a statement supporting him.

Lastly, the tell take sign is that he took her back. How many women, who accused you of abusing them, sending pornographic material to their children, and who got you arrested knowing that's the last thing you needed especially while trying to sue NBC, would you take back if you did nothing wrong?

 

[Orignal Earl]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

 

[Adrenaline]

I have this view that if 1 person says something, they could be lying. Two people they could still possible be lying. But when it's like 7-8 there has to be some truth in it because they can't all be lying.

So, do you really believe everyone in his life is lying on him? From his ex-gf and that restraining order she filed, his current wife and him assaulting her dad to his new girlfriend and that he domestically abusing her?

Btw, I guess the video I saw of Ray Rice knocking out his wife was fabricated because she took him back and even wrote a statement supporting him.

Lastly, the tell take sign is that he took her back. How many women, who accused you of abusing them, sending pornographic material to their children, and who got you arrested knowing that's the last thing you needed especially while trying to sue NBC, would you take back if you did nothing wrong?

So, even with herself as a witness and her dad as the one who was assaulted, they could not get him prosecuted. Something is off there. Perhaps the father got close to and threatened GZ and he is within his legal right to take action in FL.

His GF lied about it and came clean.

Why do you still refuse to read over facts with regards to GZ?

 

[emperus]

So, even with herself as a witness and her dad as the one who was assaulted, they could not get him prosecuted. Something is off there. Perhaps the father got close to and threatened GZ and he is within his legal right to take action in FL.

His GF lied about it and came clean.

Why do you still refuse to read over facts with regards to GZ?

The wife was on probation for lying during the bail hearing. So, she was concerned she may go to jail (the cops told her they would both be arrested). If I remember correctly.

His GF lied about it and came clean.

You sound like you don't know much about domestic abuse. Try this, Google what she said she lied about then Google the recorded police interview and see if that squares with what she says happened.

Again, why would George Zimmerman take her back? In fact, the fact that she's even dating him tells you how broken she is.

 

[irishScott]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/police-george-zimmerman-named-in-fla-road-rage-incident/



4 violent incidents since Trayvon Martin. Clearly, this delicate individual is simply a misunderstood man.

Hope Zimmerman's cheerleaders are proud this guy is free to be, uh, something.

No one argued that Zimmerman was a saint, so I'm not sure who you're trying to stick it to.

He was innocent of the murder of Trayvon Martin. That's all. Seems people like you just can't let it go that he had a right to defend himself.

 

[zinfamous]

Seems like George Zimmerman has achieved the same AT topic status as:

tipping
evolution
gay marriage
(am I forgetting something?)

guaranteed longass thread with lots of anger.