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Hi guys! I lost about ~9GB of video files from just this one folder last week while watching on MPC using CCCP.

Very strange, I was able to recover 6.67GB back using Recuva and Pandora.

My OS is on a 60GB partition on a Western Digital 750GB Caviar Black. OS is Windows 7 RC.

Anyways, because of the said problems I'm thinking my OS or HDD is playing up. I will be buying an SSD with Windows 7 x64 OEM to go with it.

Note: all prices in Australian Dollar

OCZ Vertex 60GB $329
OCZ Vertex Turbo 60GB $363+shipping (ETA late December, out of stock across Australia)
OCZ Agility 60GB $300
OCZ Agility 120GB $495 (2nd best $/GB)
GSkill FalconII 60GB $239 (best $/GB)
Intel X25-M G2 80GB $449 (last one remaining; ETA mid January 2010, out of stock across Australia)

I'm having a hard time deciding, I don't really want to touch GSkill because apparently Intel and OCZ is the way to go. Bigger companies compared to the small guys etc.

The OCZ Agility 60GB and 120GB are obviously very tempting price-wise.

Here is the one and only review for the GSkill at the moment: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3025/g_skill_falcon_ii_64gb_2_5_inch_solid_state_disk/index10.html

What would you guys pick judging from the prices relative to performance. Please give an explanation for your choice.

Thank you very much.


Enough with the bickering that's been going on since the 3rd post. All of you.

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ginbong said:
Reason? If you don't read threads properly don't even bother replying.
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Well if you had followed your own advise and read the AT reviews properly, you could have answered the question yourself.

Intel - you'll find the reasons in every review Anand has written about that topic...
 
So you guys are suggesting I wait for a drive that is ~$450 and is out of stock til December and it might not even arrive and then my HDD might lose all it's data or die then I'm f*cked.

Also you're suggesting I buy a drive that is way expensive compared to OCZ and is not all that much faster.

Good job guys. I think I shouldn't have bothered posting in the first place.
 
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ginbong said:
So you guys are suggesting I wait for a drive that is ~$450 and is out of stock til December and it might not even arrive and then my HDD might lose all it's data or die then I'm f*cked.

Also you're suggesting I buy a drive that is way expensive compared to OCZ and is not all that much faster.

Good job guys. I think I shouldn't have bothered posting in the first place.
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Looks like you already know the answer so what was the point of asking the question? I would also go for the Intel drive as it's the best one and storage is not something you should save money on. Hell, I don't like to purchase worse parts in general and will be getting an Intel SSD myself.
 
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True, I was hoping someone with experience with the other drives will reply regarding the reliability, firmware updates, satisfaction etc as there doesn't seem to be any SSD related posts on the OCZ forum.

And you did read that Intel is all out of stock in Australia right?

I can't purchase a drive that isn't available.
 
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You wouldn't be disappointed with either the Vertex or Agility, they are fine drives and have excellent support regarding firmware updates. They already have TRIM support, that works, 😉 and advanced auto garbage collection for OS other than Win7.
In many normal user working patterns, they are faster than the Intel drives as well. Although the Intel drives are faster in a workstation user pattern.

I have an Intel X25M 80GB, and Vertex and Agility 120GB. My OS drive is a Vertex, because for my usage pattern, it's the fastest.
 
ginbong said:
Hi guys! I lost about ~9GB of video files from just this one folder last week while watching on MPC using CCCP.

Very strange, I was able to recover 6.67GB back using Recuva and Pandora.

My OS is on a 60GB partition on a Western Digital 750GB Caviar Black. OS is Windows 7 RC.

Anyways, because of the said problems I'm thinking my OS or HDD is playing up. I will be buying an SSD with Windows 7 x64 OEM to go with it, maybe Pro or Ultimate.

Note: all prices in Australian Dollar

OCZ Vertex 60GB $329
OCZ Vertex Turbo 60GB $363+shipping (ETA late December, out of stock across Australia)
OCZ Agility 60GB $300
OCZ Agility 120GB $495 (2nd best $/GB)
GSkill FalconII 60GB $239 (best $/GB)
Intel X25-M G2 80GB ~$450 (ETA late December, out of stock across Australia)

I'm having a hard time deciding, I don't really want to touch GSkill because apparently Intel and OCZ is the way to go. Bigger companies compared to the small guys etc.

The OCZ Agility 60GB and 120GB are obviously very tempting price-wise.

Here is the one and only review for the GSkill at the moment: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3025/g_skill_falcon_ii_64gb_2_5_inch_solid_state_disk/index10.html

What would you guys pick judging from the prices and I assume you all know the other drives. Please give a good reason for your decisions.

Thank you very much.
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This is all IMHO, but I'd drop the Turbo as a choice. Not much difference between the regular and turbo model, plus it's OOS. Now, how much money do you have, and how much space do you need? If you are really tight on money, the intel isn't a good choice. If you need more the 60Gig, then the smaller OCZ's won't work.

Since you don't want to wait, I'd go with the 60gig Vertex. You could go with the Agility, it would only be a bit slower then the Vertex (and might even be a bit faster, depending on your luck). If you need more then 60Gig, then go with the 120gig model.

As to the difference between Intel and OCZ, I think (again, this is IMHO) this is over-hyped. I have both a Vertex and a X-25 (gen 1). I have tried both as my boot drive, and couldn't tell a difference. I bet in a blind test, no one could tell a difference between the two, unless there was a specific app someone used that really favored one drive or another.

Even worst case, if you hated the OCZ, you could by the intel later, when it's in stock, to see if it was better, and sell the OCZ with minimal loss. But I doubt that you would be unhappy with the OCZ should you get it.
 
Yeah, that's what I thought myself Wendy and GarfieldtheCat, I bet the OCZ and Intel runs similar no one can tell in a blind test as you said.

I only use my PC for watching videos and gaming. Nothing workstation related.

That's why the 'Intel' reply above rubbed me the wrong way. Sounded like a biased fanboy to me.

As I stated above my current OS drive is 60GB.

I don't have much money as I'm renting with a casual job as you can see my system specs are so 2007.. hehe

As I was thinking to myself earlier I narrowed the choice down to either the 60GB Vertex or Agility because I can't wait for the Intel as my 750GB HDD is acting strange.

And also I'd rather spend as little as possible now then get one of the best, larger, cheaper SSD's in 2-3 years time.

But with a $29 difference I should go for the Vertex right? I've read about 5-6 different Vertex vs Agility reviews and the results are different, some says Vertex is slightly faster, others say Agility.
 
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If you could live with 40Gb, it may be worth scouting around for the new Kingston 40Gb models as reviewed by Anandtech. It may price up more favourably for you and act as a stepping stone into the world of SSD.

Personally I went with an Intel 160Gb and I am loving it as compared to my old mechanical drives. OCZ and Intel were my only clear choices and Intel was by far the cheaper of the two so my answer was straightforward (UK based).
 
ginbong said:
Yeah, that's what I thought myself Wendy and GarfieldtheCat, I bet the OCZ and Intel runs similar no one can tell in a blind test as you said.

I only use my PC for watching videos and gaming. Nothing workstation related.

That's why the 'Intel' reply above rubbed me the wrong way. Sounded like a biased fanboy to me.

As I stated above my current OS drive is 60GB.

I don't have much money as I'm renting with a casual job as you can see my system specs are so 2007.. hehe

As I was thinking to myself earlier I narrowed the choice down to either the 60GB Vertex or Agility because I can't wait for the Intel as my 750GB HDD is acting strange.

And also I'd rather spend as little as possible now then get one of the best, larger, cheaper SSD's in 2-3 years time.

But with a $29 difference I should go for the Vertex right? I've read about 5-6 different Vertex vs Agility reviews and the results are different, some says Vertex is slightly faster, others say Agility.
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Anandtech reviews recommends Intel.
If me recommending Intel over the others based on their reviews "rubs you off the wrong way", I'm sorry but that's just reality.

Anand Lal Shimpi is a biased fanboy now? 😕

Also, If you can't read reviews on the main site, don't bother asking questions about an SSD recommendation.
Thank you for nothing.
 
Anand hasn't reviewed the latest OCZ drives and doesn't address the price differences in Australia now does he?

He also stated in his latest article Intel's Write speeds are not acceptable at the moment.

It seems Intel isn't bulletproof as you might think.

It's people like you that doesn't really bring anything good to forums like these. If you're just going to reply 'Intel.', save your energy and don't bother replying.
 
ginbong said:
Anand hasn't reviewed the latest OCZ drives and doesn't address the price differences in Australia now does he?

He also stated in his latest article Intel's Write speeds are not acceptable at the moment.

It seems Intel isn't bulletproof as you might think.

It's people like you that doesn't really bring anything good to forums like these. If you're just going to reply 'Intel.', save your energy and don't bother replying.
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Learn the difference between random and sequential write.
 
I do know the difference, I'm just saying Intel has it's flaws to and not all powerful as you claim it to be.
 
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Elcs said:
If you could live with 40Gb, it may be worth scouting around for the new Kingston 40Gb models as reviewed by Anandtech. It may price up more favourably for you and act as a stepping stone into the world of SSD.

Personally I went with an Intel 160Gb and I am loving it as compared to my old mechanical drives. OCZ and Intel were my only clear choices and Intel was by far the cheaper of the two so my answer was straightforward (UK based).
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Thanks. I did read about that, although interesting; I think 40GB is a bit too small for an OS drive if you include games.
 
ginbong said:
Thanks. I did read about that, although interesting; I think 40GB is a bit too small for an OS drive if you include games.
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Depends on your games really... something like Dragon Age takes about 15 gig and Plants & Zombies takes 25 meg.

Personally i have my full Steam Games collection on my mechanical 500 Gb drive and Steam the program on my SSD. Any time I want a game, I can copy it from Storage to SSD, play it and wipe it when I need the space. Not sure it would work so eloquently without native TRIM support and a wiper tool... I dont think the Kingston officially supports either at the moment.
 
ginbong said:
So you guys are suggesting I wait for a drive that is ~$450 and is out of stock til December and it might not even arrive and then my HDD might lose all it's data or die then I'm f*cked.

Also you're suggesting I buy a drive that is way expensive compared to OCZ and is not all that much faster.

Good job guys. I think I shouldn't have bothered posting in the first place.
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You sure are hostile for someone asking for advice. If you want a more complete answer just ask, no reason to be a jerk about it.

And if you're that down about the Intel drive - it's not "all powerful", too expensive, not in-stock - why list it as a choice? Consider this: the price difference is significant, yet it will still take you many weeks to order one since they're all out of stock. Obviously, despite the price difference, enough people are buying them to make them scarce. Why? Because its the best. Often when you ask people for a recommendation, they're going to pick the one that's the best.

If other factors, such as your desire to replace a possibly failing drive in a hurry, influence your decision, state it up front. Don't assault the people answering your question because they couldn't read your mind.

I voted with my money and bought a X-25M 80 GB. It should be here sometime next week.
 
People get their panties in a bunch whenever they don't get exactly what they want RIGHT NOW!

It seems more than half of the "advice requested" threads end up this way.

The very first reaction now is to just go off the deep end on everybody immediately. Asking questions comes later, if at all.
 
Well I firmly stated to give a good reason for the recommendation.

A reply with "Intel." wasn't what I said in the OP, probably was too lazy to read my post that's why.

If I wanted to read a single brand for a recommendation I wouldn't have posted here.

That is also the reason I put up a fairly long opening post so you get an idea of my circumstances and I thought it was fairly obvious I wanted to replace a failing drive. I included the price and availability of the SSDs, reason I put the out of stock items was someone might say "Risk the failure and try and hold out for an Intel because OCZ has bad support or firmware or whatever".

Common-sense really.
 
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For someone touting common sense, you sure don't employ much of it yourself. Here's some common sense for you:

1) You basically hate the Intel drive for the reasons you gave.
2) You said you wouldn't touch the GSKill.
3) The Vertex Turbo isn't worth the premium.

So what does that leave you? The two 60 gb OCZs and the 120 OCZ. If you need more than 60 gbs, you get the 120. If not, you decide if the usually faster Vertex is worth $29.

Common sense, really.
 
Hey, gin-bong, why do you think that an SSD is going to keep your files safe, when your HD's don't?

Maybe you should pull the stick out of your a**, and figure out -that- problem, before you buy a new technology, of which you can't be bothered to learn anything at all...

And then buy a book on getting along with people that you need to ask favors of...

Jus' sayin', dood.
 
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For someone touting common sense, you sure don't employ much of it yourself. Here's some common sense for you:

1) You basically hate the Intel drive for the reasons you gave.
2) You said you wouldn't touch the GSKill.
3) The Vertex Turbo isn't worth the premium.

So what does that leave you? The two 60 gb OCZs and the 120 OCZ. If you need more than 60 gbs, you get the 120. If not, you decide if the usually faster Vertex is worth $29.

Common sense, really.
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Apparently, common sense is not so common.
 
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