Sprint Executive Killed By Boulder

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Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: dabuddha
So who exactly made the mountain then? Just so we know whose gonna get sued
The mountain was doing just fine, until a civil engineer said it'd be ok to build a road somewhere. Rules evidently exist which govern the allowable risk for falling debris; it would seem that they may not be strict enough - or else stuff like this will just have to be considered a potential consequence of mountain living.

The road did not destabilize the cliff face above it.

Rockslides are an inevitable fact of life on mountainsides and any trail or road that cuts through rocky mountains will have to deal with the potential dangers from falling rocks. While there are many strategies that have been developed to mitigate the danger, there will always be some element of risk that is impossible to eliminate.

You say that this was too risky and compare it to a product that fails 5% of the time.

However, the simple fact here is that this is a ridiculously unlikely event. In fact, I would be willing to wager money that this is the only incident of a deadly falling rock at that particular point in the road. Given that the road in question is a principal transport artery for the area, chances are that is sees several hundred thousand vehicles every year. Given that this is the first occurrence of this type along the road despite its being open for many years, it would seem that this is much closer to a 1 in 1,000,000 event than the 1 in 20 event to which you attempt to compare it.

Backyard swimming pools are far more dangerous.

ZV
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: l0cke
When you see the falling rocks signs, should you drive faster or slower?

I'd think in that situation one would want to sprint.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: jtvang125
The pay at sprint must suck. He's a VP there and all he could afford is a Tahoe. A 2007 one at that.

Oh my gosh! Someone not living up to your image. Holy hell, call the fashion police.
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: l0cke
When you see the falling rocks signs, should you drive faster or slower?

Faster. Less chance that a rock will hit you in the first place and the forward motion of the car may deflect the rock to a degree.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: dabuddha
So who exactly made the mountain then? Just so we know whose gonna get sued
The mountain was doing just fine, until a civil engineer said it'd be ok to build a road somewhere. Rules evidently exist which govern the allowable risk for falling debris; it would seem that they may not be strict enough - or else stuff like this will just have to be considered a potential consequence of mountain living.

The road did not destabilize the cliff face above it.

Rockslides are an inevitable fact of life on mountainsides and any trail or road that cuts through rocky mountains will have to deal with the potential dangers from falling rocks. While there are many strategies that have been developed to mitigate the danger, there will always be some element of risk that is impossible to eliminate.

You say that this was too risky and compare it to a product that fails 5% of the time.

However, the simple fact here is that this is a ridiculously unlikely event. In fact, I would be willing to wager money that this is the only incident of a deadly falling rock at that particular point in the road. Given that the road in question is a principal transport artery for the area, chances are that is sees several hundred thousand vehicles every year. Given that this is the first occurrence of this type along the road despite its being open for many years, it would seem that this is much closer to a 1 in 1,000,000 event than the 1 in 20 event to which you attempt to compare it.

Backyard swimming pools are far more dangerous.

ZV
I guess that works for me. :)

Granted, I don't hear about many cases of rocks hitting cars.
I guess the "Falling Rock" signs I see near some small cliff faces back home always amused me when I was younger. You know, the car's roof is opaque, and there's not really a whole lot you can do if you see a rock falling in your general direction, unless you're really good at predicting where extremely large objects will impact, while accounting for your own speed.



Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: l0cke
When you see the falling rocks signs, should you drive faster or slower?

Faster. Less chance that a rock will hit you in the first place and the forward motion of the car may deflect the rock to a degree.
Yes, but will it take off?




Edit: I just found a nice Cracked.com quote that sums up my thoughts nicely:
Plenty of places already have signs set up under the logic that an obnoxious yellow warning will help prevent something that is impossible to predict and impossible to react to until it has already smashed through the roof and flattened you like an accordion.