Sports & fast cars are stupid.

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Passenger vans showed the lowest death rates, with the Nissan Quest at 18 per million vehicles, while sports cars had the highest-308 for the Chevy Camaro. No, how can that be!!!

did you even read the article. it has to do with death rates. not how many sports cars caused accidents. every one of those deaths could have been from a sports car being hit by a train for all you know. keep trying tho.

Other things are driven by testosterone overloaded people more often and get higher rates, like Camaro Z28's.

so the trailer trash mom i saw the other day driving a camaro z28 is testosterone overloaded? she was kinda cute and had a nice body, i wonder if that's from all the male hormones.

There are some intersting anomolies which I noticed while looking over a general listing of the rating
catagories published by Consumer Reports a few years ago: Porsche 911/928 are
in the "average" rating class, while 924/944 are in the very risky class.
Ferrari's are average, Pontiac Fiero's are even more risky than 924/944.
Mustang V8 GT was riskier than Mustang V8 LX. Wheeeee! The tables don't
explain why a particular car might be more risky to insure than another, the
tables simply reflect experience.

that says nothing about sports cars causing more accidents. am i missing something? it basically says that insurance companies base their rates on things NOT BASED IN REALITY. like driving a sports car makes you more likely to cause an accident.

 

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Dude...is this one of those old time Skoorb threads??? Have you seen how these kids drive in these little Honda civics??? I give up, this thread is so pointless, I think I'll go argue with the wall to my right, I might have more luck.

Again, you're not looking at the numbers. I can get insurance on a new mustang cheaper than a 16 year old on an old one because my age will lower my statistical chance of making a claim. 16 year olds are bad drivers. Everyone knows this, and so they pay out the ass for insurance. So to are sports car drivers and again the insurance prices reflect this. Whether a sports car is more capable of avoiding an accident than an accord is immaterial if you've got somebody driving that sports car like he's on a private track and the guy in the accord is just driving along like a regular joe.

I mean truly the onus is on anybody else here to find conflicting statistics, if you're going to maintain the point that sports cars do not get in more accidents than non sports cars.

 

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Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Passenger vans showed the lowest death rates, with the Nissan Quest at 18 per million vehicles, while sports cars had the highest-308 for the Chevy Camaro. No, how can that be!!!

did you even read the article. it has to do with death rates. not how many sports cars caused accidents. every one of those deaths could have been from a sports car being hit by a train for all you know. keep trying tho.

I really don't feel the need to. I honestly thought it was common sense that insurance rates were higher on sports cars due to accident claims and not a conspiracy theory about price gouging, so I maintain that stance unless you can come up with anything better. Show me an internal memo from progressive about how they're gouging their sports car customers and then I'll perhaps consider that such a stance as meat to it, but until then I'll use common sense and numbers that every insurance company in north america adhere to.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
fast cars are stupid

Which is why Skoorb bought a Maxima.

 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Passenger vans showed the lowest death rates, with the Nissan Quest at 18 per million vehicles, while sports cars had the highest-308 for the Chevy Camaro. No, how can that be!!!

Population control

 

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Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Skoorb
fast cars are stupid

Which is why Skoorb bought a Maxima.

Pwned!

 

[erikistired]

16 year olds are bad drivers. Everyone knows this, and so they pay out the ass for insurance. So to are sports car drivers and again the insurance prices reflect this.

apparently you can get more ignorant. wow, you are a troll. congratulations.

 

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Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Skoorb
fast cars are stupid

Which is why Skoorb bought a Maxima.

:brokenheart:

 

[Black88GTA]

Different people buy cars for different reasons. I own a sports car, but I sure as hell didn't get it for the "image" that comes with it. My car is worth maybe $3600 on a good day, needs a bit of minor bodywork, and I think most people are well aware of the "mullet and stained wife-beater" image that comes with 80's Trans Ams and Camaros. I deal with morons all the time that basically tell me "OMG U HAVE A 80S TRANS AM WEAR IS UR MULITT LOL!!" but I don't care, because I bought the car because I liked it, not because of what other people think.

And the generalization that everyone with a sports car drives like an ass hole is retarded. There's always a time and a place to open the car up, and most people know that 5:30 PM in rush hour traffic is not the place to do it. Of course there are always those who will anyway. I've seen just as many people weaving in and out of traffic in their Escorts as in a sports car. Morons aren't limited to fast cars.

Many people simply take their car to the track when they want to go fast, or open it up on the expressway when there's very little or no traffic. The only times I go fast in my car on public roads is when visibility is good, and there's very little traffic.

Cars are a hobby for many people, just like gardening, films, or stamp collecting. Do you NEED a garden full of flowers? No? Well then why do people do it? What about spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on exotic/rare stamps? WTF are you going to do with that? Or, like many people on this board who have 6 working computers in their basement that they built - when one would suffice. My point is that it's not always about simply "going fast" or "looking fly" it's a hobby. Something people do for fun.

 

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Originally posted by: fisher

16 year olds are bad drivers. Everyone knows this, and so they pay out the ass for insurance. So to are sports car drivers and again the insurance prices reflect this.

apparently you can get more ignorant. wow, you are a troll. congratulations.

Although you've opened many windows to insulting you I've not done so, so I don't think you need to insult me. So, now it would seem that you're additionally taking the stance that 16 year old drives are no more likely to get into an acciden than, let's say a 35 year old driver. Are you saying that?

 

[johnjbruin]

so sad to hear this from you skoorb, being a nissan fan boi.
so why did you make the stupid and irrational decision of buying a maxima and not a 4 cylinder accord?

 

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And the generalization that everyone with a sports car drives like an ass hole is retarded.

I agree, which is why I never said such a thing and in fact nobody here has...

 

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Originally posted by: johnjbruin
so sad to hear this from you skoorb, being a nissan fan boi.
so why did you make the stupid and irrational decision of buying a maxima and not a 4 cylinder accord?

I dunno. Really this thread was a proding devil's advocate to see if anybody could give me a real and valid reason why I should enjoy a fast car. I know in the heart of things I do. I've never said that I don't want to own a sports car because of course I do. I'm just trying to get at the heart of the matter and determine how much of that is based in a desire to drive the car in a way I can never really drive it in, which is a tragedy.

 

[Argo]

Sports & fast cars are stupid.

I just lost a lot of respect for you. Jokes aside though, I think if somebody has money to burn on expensive cars it's his right to do so.

 

[erikistired]

I really don't feel the need to. I honestly thought it was common sense that insurance rates were higher on sports cars due to accident claims and not a conspiracy theory about price gouging, so I maintain that stance unless you can come up with anything better.

maybe in canada it's common sense, but this isn't canada.

Show me an internal memo from progressive about how they're gouging their sports car customers and then I'll perhaps consider that such a stance as meat to it, but until then I'll use common sense and numbers that every insurance company in north america adhere to.

even if i had that memo, it'd never see the light of day. i watched the insider, thanks. if every insurance company in north america adheres to one set of numbers how come i can save 15% by switching to geico? or even more?

i was in an accident when i was young, driving a MINIVAN. i was an inexperienced driver on a slick wet road and hit my brakes too hard and hydroplaned. in a MINIVAN. since then i've learned how to handle such situations. i drove a sports car for nearly 2 years (and yes a vw gti is a sports car, which i paid insane insurance rates on even tho i had nothing at my record at the point i made the purchase). i made NO claims at all (i had a speeding ticket in a ford bronco once, fast car eh? once again i was young and invincible, but driving a ford bronco). no wrecks, no speeding tickets, no hitting little kids on curbs. amazing that it's even possible huh? because according to your retarded logic the moment i sat behind the wheel i became a bad driver.

anyhow, enjoy your trolling. you're quite good at it.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
so sad to hear this from you skoorb, being a nissan fan boi.
so why did you make the stupid and irrational decision of buying a maxima and not a 4 cylinder accord?

I dunno. Really this thread was a proding devil's advocate to see if anybody could give me a real and valid reason why I should enjoy a fast car. I know in the heart of things I do. I've never said that I don't want to own a sports car because of course I do. I'm just trying to get at the heart of the matter and determine how much of that is based in a desire to drive the car in a way I can never really drive it in, which is a tragedy.

we need to start a fund to buy a ticket for skoorb to go to germany, rent an enzo/carrera gt/etc... and legally drive at 200mph.
man we need to put the life back into this man.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

And the generalization that everyone with a sports car drives like an ass hole is retarded.

I agree, which is why I never said such a thing and in fact nobody here has...

originally posted by skoorb BEFORE what he just posted saying he hasn't said anything about sports car drivers being bad drivers:

16 year olds are bad drivers. Everyone knows this, and so they pay out the ass for insurance. So to are sports car drivers and again the insurance prices reflect this.

let's see. 16 year olds are bad drivers. hence high insurance. so are sports car drivers. hence high insurance.

i'm perfectly aware of why younger drivers have higher insurance rates. because they don't have experience behind the wheel. to equate them to sports car drivers as you did right up there ^^^ is ignorant.

 

[ajpa123]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Look how much money people spend on cars that go fast. 1/4 in 13.5 0-60 in 5.5. Rips up country roads. Who cares? .

Hey Skoorb,

What percentage of sports and fast car owners do you think 'Rip up country roads' with their cars. I just want to get that straight. Cuz i do care, i just wanna know how much i should be caring about it.

AJ

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Look how much money people spend on cars that go fast. 1/4 in 13.5 0-60 in 5.5. Rips up country roads. Who cares? .

Hey Skoorb,

What percentage of sports and fast car owners do you think 'Rip up country roads' with their cars. I just want to get that straight. Cuz i do care, i just wanna know how much i should be caring about it.

AJ

just ask your insurance company. they'll tell you.

 

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Originally posted by: fisher

I really don't feel the need to. I honestly thought it was common sense that insurance rates were higher on sports cars due to accident claims and not a conspiracy theory about price gouging, so I maintain that stance unless you can come up with anything better.

maybe in canada it's common sense, but this isn't canada.

Show me an internal memo from progressive about how they're gouging their sports car customers and then I'll perhaps consider that such a stance as meat to it, but until then I'll use common sense and numbers that every insurance company in north america adhere to.

even if i had that memo, it'd never see the light of day. i watched the insider, thanks. if every insurance company in north america adheres to one set of numbers how come i can save 15% by switching to geico? or even more?

Uh, geeze maybe because they're different companies? Maybe geico has a different business model? Maybe their customer service isn't as good? Who the heck knows?

i was in an accident when i was young, driving a MINIVAN. i was an inexperienced driver on a slick wet road and hit my brakes too hard and hydroplaned. in a MINIVAN. since then i've learned how to handle such situations. i drove a sports car for nearly 2 years (and yes a vw gti is a sports car, which i paid insane insurance rates on even tho i had nothing at my record at the point i made the purchase). i made NO claims at all (i had a speeding ticket in a ford bronco once, fast car eh? once again i was young and invincible, but driving a ford bronco). no wrecks, no speeding tickets, no hitting little kids on curbs. amazing that it's even possible huh? because according to your retarded logic the moment i sat behind the wheel i became a bad driver.

anyhow, enjoy your trolling. you're quite good at it.

Whoopdee doo, you had an accident in a minivan and not a sports car. Firstly, you had that accident when you were inexperienced, by your own admission. So, it seems reasonable that INEXPERIENCED drivers (hence, 16 year olds), will get in more accidents. And if you think that your own personal experiences are representative of the rest of the world I would advise you to further your education, and let that begin with a class in statistics. I can show you somebody who's a chain smoker at the age of 97. Does it mean smoking isn't bad?

Again, I'd like to illuminate your apparent stance that sports cars are not in accidents anymore than non sports cars, and that 16 year old drivers are no more dangerous than 35 year old drivers. It would seem that you would probably believe that all drivers are equally likely to be in an accident, regardless of the vehicle or their age group. I'm not trolling and again I'd ask you to cut back on the personal attacks, since in actual fact I'm not even the one making silly statements like you continue to do so to the chagrin of everybody reading them.

 

[Descartes]

I enjoy having a relatively fast car, and I exploit its capabilities on the track whenever weather and time permits.

 

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Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Skoorb

And the generalization that everyone with a sports car drives like an ass hole is retarded.

I agree, which is why I never said such a thing and in fact nobody here has...

originally posted by skoorb BEFORE what he just posted saying he hasn't said anything about sports car drivers being bad drivers:

16 year olds are bad drivers. Everyone knows this, and so they pay out the ass for insurance. So to are sports car drivers and again the insurance prices reflect this.

let's see. 16 year olds are bad drivers. hence high insurance. so are sports car drivers. hence high insurance.

i'm perfectly aware of why younger drivers have higher insurance rates. because they don't have experience behind the wheel. to equate them to sports car drivers as you did right up there ^^^ is ignorant.

I'd have thought it obvious that my statement was made in a general sense. To pretend that I intended to come across as ALL sports car drivers and ALL 16 year old drivers are bad is simply looking for a fight. Perhaps when you're done with the statistics course you could do one in interpretation of the written word.

What percentage of sports and fast car owners do you think 'Rip up country roads' with their cars. I just want to get that straight. Cuz i do care, i just wanna know how much i should be caring about it.

Very few do it, which is really the shame of owning a sports car

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: ajpa123

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Look how much money people spend on cars that go fast. 1/4 in 13.5 0-60 in 5.5. Rips up country roads. Who cares? .

Hey Skoorb,

What percentage of sports and fast car owners do you think 'Rip up country roads' with their cars. I just want to get that straight. Cuz i do care, i just wanna know how much i should be caring about it.

AJ

On the Geico blacklist

 

[erikistired]

Again, I'd like to illuminate your apparent stance that sports cars are not in accidents anymore than non sports cars, and that 16 year old drivers are no more dangerous than 35 year old drivers. It would seem that you would probably believe that all drivers are equally likely to be in an accident, regardless of the vehicle or their age group. I'm not trolling and again I'd ask you to cut back on the personal attacks, since in actual fact I'm not even the one making silly statements like you continue to do so to the chagrin of everybody reading them.

never have i said anywhere that 16 year olds are less likely to get into accidents. that's something you made up. and i have yet to see anyone say that your view of sports cars causing more accidents is anywhere near logical or true. so i'd not make statements for everyone reading this thread. bad drivers get into accidents, no matter what they are driving. period. you don't like fast cars, so automatically everyone who drives a sports car is a bad driver and is going to run over little kids and cause more accidents. these are things you've stated in this thread. you ARE trolling, and if you take offense to that perhaps you should sit back and read your own words, but then to you they probably sound perfectly normal. the start of this thread and what it evolved into are two different things, and went from a discussion to trolling. plain and simple. and if you think being called a troll on a message board is a personal attack maybe you need to log off the internet and get a freakin life.

 

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