Spore will have DRM - deemed "Necessary"

[wanderer27]

So here it is:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/08/spore-producer.html

Basically it's a CD/DVD key with Server Authentication and a three install limit.

Technically they say you can install it on three machines, but really, an HD failure or even a reformat an you've used one up.

Server Auth: - yeah, this will probably be up for a year or so until they come out with Spore II, and then like Madden they'll quite supporting it.

EA's business model through and through :disgust:

Looks like another I'll be passing up.

After the delays and all the DRM shenanagins this one's pretty much become a yawner to me anyway.

 

[TheVrolok]

I'm getting bored of all the DRM whining. Yes, we know some people have problems, but all in all, it really doesn't spell the end of gaming. I imagine, like in other cases, the DRM will be pulled back at some point anyway - like remove the installation limitations. I'll be playing Spore, just liked I played Crysis, Bioshock, and Mass Effect.

 

[Maleficus]

slurp it up as quick as they serve it to you vrolok, we know you love it.

 

[EvilComputer92]

I don't get all the complaining when a crack is bound to be released within a few weeks. If you don't like the DRM then get a crack instead of whining about the death of PC gaming. As long as you bought the game you have every right to modify it.

 

[Rinaun]

Because at $50-$60 a game, you shouldn't have to deal with it. Yes cracks will be out next week........so WHY put DRM in the first place? I've bought legit games (Rome:total War) and DRM has caused me to have so many issues with the game I played 3 times before I was done having to reactivate every time I played. DRM is balls shitty, and useless against what it originally is designed for; stopping people from cracking the game. DRM or DRM-LIKE features in games, such as the battlefield series is fine. Having to put your CD in to play is a good idea (you can't play online without a CD in the BF series because of punkbuster). That's how far DRM should go. I shouldn't have to call a company to get more activations on something I bought 2 years ago.

that being said, I never pirate games (even cryfail), but I can't say what I'll do hearing this crap about spore. I think it just encourages pirating more.

 

[Bateluer]

Sigh, guess I'll be passing on Spore until they at least remove the install limit. I don't mind a one time online activation that much, but the way I change out hardware and OSs, I'd use up all my installs in 6 months.

Perhaps I should write EA a snail mail letter to register my disgust and disappointment.

 

[Rinaun]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Sigh, guess I'll be passing on Spore until they at least remove the install limit. I don't mind a one time online activation that much, but the way I change out hardware and OSs, I'd use up all my installs in 6 months.

Perhaps I should write EA a snail mail letter to register my disgust and disappointment.

Please do. I recently went to the redwood facility and asked them personally about some of the complaints they get, and it seems like either:

A. They're totally retarded and being a big company is just saving them

B. They don't give two sh1ts about their consumers, other than if the game itself will sell

I remember being asked numerously would I buy X game...........

 

[videogames101]

And the irony,


it will still be pirated.

 

[450R]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
I'll be passing on Spore until they at least remove the install limit.

That's what I did with BioShock and that's what I'll do with Spore. It's not like there aren't other games coming out in the same timeframe to keep me entertained. The upside is Spore will probably be discounted down to ~$30 by then. I'd pay $50 for Spore w/o DRM but I'm more than happy keeping the extra $20-30 and spending it on another discounted title.

 

[Sylvanas]

I don't really care about this. They remove it Bioshock (or was is Mass Effect?) they'll hopefully do the same here. You can all miss out on good games then, I'll be playing them .

 

[duragezic]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm getting bored of all the DRM whining. Yes, we know some people have problems, but all in all, it really doesn't spell the end of gaming. I imagine, like in other cases, the DRM will be pulled back at some point anyway - like remove the installation limitations. I'll be playing Spore, just liked I played Crysis, Bioshock, and Mass Effect.

Same here. I realize that there are problems with DRM. In fact I don't really like it, but fact is it is basically transparent to me, and I can understand that developers and publishers want to do something about piracy (I realize it is not the best approach). They and everyone else knows this game will be huge, likely a huge market for it (not just hardcore gamers), so piracy will likely be huge. THis is why it is "necessary" as the article says, there is just absolutely no way the big wheels at EA can sit there with this type of game and be like "oh, we don't need DRM". Again I don't agree with a lot of this DRM and obviously I understand it is ALWAYS cracked, but they just want to prevent as much as possible I guess.

I would be angry if I was one of the people who's optical drive had problems reading the DVD, or any of the other problems that happen with some DRM. It just gets completely exaggerated and blown out of proportion. Like, I knew 50 people who didn't buy Bioshock because of DRM!!!!

Also there isn't much info in the article but when it says install on three different computers, it could very well be like other ones where it means three unique installs. So unless you do a major upgrade then reinstalls on the same computer won't count. I'm just guessing here, I don't know if that is true, but I know these install limits have been met with "OMG I FORMAT WEEKLY" or some stupid shit when in fact reinstalls only counted if they were unique.

edit: Re-read the article and realized another aspect. Everyone likes to say that PC games do just fine without any DRM, see Sins of a Solar Empire. I think I read that statement multiple times per day everywhere. That is one game. I agree they did the right thing with it, but it just doesn't work that way the majority of the time.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Maleficus
slurp it up as quick as they serve it to you vrolok, we know you love it.

WTF are you talking about? Don't you have anything better to do than troll? I can't believe the mods just ignore you the way they do. I guess I should take a lesson.

 

[Rinaun]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Maleficus
slurp it up as quick as they serve it to you vrolok, we know you love it.

WTF are you talking about? Don't you have anything better to do than troll? I can't believe the mods just ignore you the way they do. I guess I should take a lesson.

Efight

Get shit ON

 

[Piuc2020]

LOL at the bitter men who hate all games, it's pathetic.

Also, DRM is a nuisance and annoying but not enough a reason not to buy a game.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
LOL at the bitter men who hate all games, it's pathetic.

Also, DRM is a nuisance and annoying but not enough a reason not to buy a game.

No, it is a great reason not to buy a game,


vote with your wallet!

 

[Rinaun]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
LOL at the bitter men who hate all games, it's pathetic.

Also, DRM is a nuisance and annoying but not enough a reason not to buy a game.

No, it is a great reason not to buy a game,


vote with your wallet!

qft.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
LOL at the bitter men who hate all games, it's pathetic.

Also, DRM is a nuisance and annoying but not enough a reason not to buy a game.

No, it is a great reason not to buy a game,


vote with your wallet!

Truth.

I didn't buy Mass Effect till they pulled the 10 days check out of it. I had very little interest in Spore, but the DRM aspects dropped that down to zero interest.

I've bought everything by Stardock even though I don't play them much - I bought them on principle.

 

[KaOTiK]

I've had a lot of issues with DRM with some games then others I've been fine.

It is sad though when I have to pirate a copy of the game I already own cause it won't play due to DRM issues.

 

[Fox5]

Well, they just lost a customer. I'm not explicitly anti-DRM, I like the unintrusive way Steam handles things, but this activation limit crap is right up there with Starforce imo. I won't be buying Spore now, and I likely won't bother to pirate it either, probably just spend the money on some other game that appeases me better.

 

[Baked]

Have absolutely no interest in this game. Looks like a snooze fest.

 

[Modelworks]

Its bioshock all over again.
It took the crackers , what ? 3 days to break bioshocks protection.

They still don't get it.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Its bioshock all over again.
It took the crackers , what ? 3 days to break bioshocks protection.

They still don't get it.

I think that they do, but you're opinion is negligible to them. It's very clear that the amount of customers they are losing to "we won't buy DRM!" is not worth their not incorporating it. Trust me, I am NOT a fan of DRM. I have never had any problems, but I can understand the concerns of those who do - and I can understand how down right anti-consumerist it is. But, I have to be somewhat realistic - these games are going to have it, and I do want to play them.

 

[Skott]

Apparently the DRM problem hasnt affected their bottom line which is, make a buck. People are still buying games with DRM. I dont like it myself but those that refuse to buy a game with it are a very small minority.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm getting bored of all the DRM whining. Yes, we know some people have problems, but all in all, it really doesn't spell the end of gaming. I imagine, like in other cases, the DRM will be pulled back at some point anyway - like remove the installation limitations. I'll be playing Spore, just liked I played Crysis, Bioshock, and Mass Effect.

No, of course it's not the end of gaming, but it's enough to make me not buy the game. Plenty of PC games don't use DRM that is this hardcore.

I'll be pirating this one unless they remove this Draconian DRM bullshit. I won't put up with install limits. If I buy the disc, I should be able to install it as many times as I want.

Yes, I realize that it's a vicious circle. But if EA doesn't give a shit about their customers, then I don't give a shit about EA.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
LOL at the bitter men who hate all games, it's pathetic.

Also, DRM is a nuisance and annoying but not enough a reason not to buy a game.

Actually, it's the perfect reason not to buy a game BECAUSE it's annoying and a nuisance. Why would you buy any product that is annoying when you can buy a similar product that is not annoying?