*spoilers*saw planet of the apes(2001) last night...

[alrocky]

Wow, a lot of people uptight about the ending of this movie. I was told that supposedly this version was more faithful to the novel than the C. Heston version. As such the ending depicted in the new version would have been a great shock to readers when the book was published - the whole concepts of time travel, alternate/parallel universes, and lower primates who can talk! But after 20-30 years of Star Trek, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits et al, this movie's ending now just seems dated and cheap.

There really isn't too much to figure out to explain the ending in this version. The spacial rift may simply allow travel through time and alternate/parallel universes. That being the case, the human astronaut have have merely traveled to an Earth where apes paralleled our history. The inclusion of Thade as Lincoln was merely the screenwriter 'twisting the knife' to give the ending more effect or punch.*

*The notion that this Thade (Lincoln) is the exact same one who interacted with the Leo at movie's end is foolish.

 

[Nefrodite]

yup you got it. anyone that tries to twist the plot any farther is pushing it the only explanation that works is just that, a totally unrelated alternate world out of a pool of infinite worlds. somehow that world favored chimp evolutionary branch for evolution or osmething, and by some freakish odds developed exactly along the same path as history as us

 

[ILikeSprite]

*spoiler if you ever plan on reading the book*




















in the book they landed on another planet orbiting a distant star. the planet was supposedly able to support life which was the reason they were visiting it. while it would only take them a few years to arive there traveling the speed of light, hundreds of years pasted on earth because i'm guessing that they basically they made time move quicker by going the speed of light. (i didn't exactly understand that one but whatever) Anyway when they reached the planet they found humans. but their role was reversed, they were the apes and the apes were human. they could not talk, make any facial expressions and did not wear clothes. infact when they first met up with the humans they distroyed their ship (along with anything else that looked like technology) and ripped off their clothes. eventually they get captured and he learns their language. there is a whole lot involved but he basically learns that humans were once the rulers of the planet and something happened to caused them to devolve. the apes continued to evolve and they eventually learned to talk. they started doing things for the humans and eventually got to the point where they had the intellegence to take over. they started locking humans in cages but the humans did not protest because their life was made much easier. they got lazier and lazier, they didn't have to worry about jobs, taxes, etc. the apes feed them and took care of them so in the end they just let it happen. after hundreds of years they eventually lost their ablilty to speak and reverted to their old animal instincts. also the girl who fell in love with him in the movie could not talk and she was just like the rest of the humans. the apes had forced them to "mate" and she got pregnant. they eventually get off the planet together and go on their voyage back to earth and on their trip the baby is born. he is able to show facial expressions and is later able to talk(just like humans today). all this time the mother imitates the baby and trys to smile and slowly learns to talk. whenever they baby would say something she would imitate it and learned to talk at the same rate as her baby. it took them 2 years or so to reach earth again. by then she was able to speak fairly well. the actual time he had been away from earth was several hundreds of years by then. when they reach earth they are surrounded by apes just like in the movie. basically what had happened was the humans on earth had sufffered the same fate as the humans on the planet they had visited.

 

[Nefrodite]

oh my, its good they didn't go with that one, ti doesn't hold any water even under sci-fi standards losing the ability to even have facial expressions? heh lol