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Speculation: Ryzen 4000 series/Zen 3

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A/// said:
Oh crap. My bad, @Markfw. I keep forgetting you lost your hearing at some point in your life. I just mentioned it because Steve from Gamers Nexus has been poking fun at Intel's inferiority complex because they only mentioned their 11th gen Tigerlake mobile product maybe twice in an entire 1.5 hour presentation, compared to AMD's 4800U maybe 40ish times. My bad!
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BTW, I lost my hearing not even 2 years ago to cancer drugs.
 
Markfw said:
BTW, I lost my hearing not even 2 years ago to cancer drugs.
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Damn.

Funny thing, a murder podcast I listen to brought up F@H. Wasn't related to the episode (was actually during their "weekly distraction" part), but one of the hosts mentioned he happened to look it up to see if it was still a thing and saw it was and was even being used to help with COVID, but he only had some older laptop I think.
 
DrMrLordX said:
It does in the all-core clocks department.
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The all core boost is fine. Take an XT chip for a spin. The ones I have tested have no issue hitting 4.4-4.5 ghz depending on the workload. Sure heavier workloads will mean lower clocks, but that is also the case on Intel chips. If you are talking about a high all-core overclock I can’t help you there.

EDIT: I suspect AMD is attempting to push TDP down, but if they wanted they could release a few 125W TDP chips with a more aggressive boost. I do hope we get a 65W 12-16 core offering, however.
 
eek2121 said:
The ones I have tested have no issue hitting 4.4-4.5 ghz depending on the workload.
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None of the XT reviews reflect that. Unless that's the boost for idling or something. My 3900x won't even hit 4200 MHz in most all-core scenarios where you actually want the chip to do work (it'll do 4175 MHz in CBR20, and around there in Blender), and I don't think the 3900XT boosts any higher than that. Picking up a few hundred extra MHz in applications like that would be good for Zen3. N7+ makes it more than possible.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
None of the XT reviews reflect that. Unless that's the boost for idling or something. My 3900x won't even hit 4200 MHz in most all-core scenarios where you actually want the chip to do work (it'll do 4175 MHz in CBR20, and around there in Blender), and I don't think the 3900XT boosts any higher than that. Picking up a few hundred extra MHz in applications like that would be good for Zen3. N7+ makes it more than possible.
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Here's hoping! (*raises :beer: emoticon)
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I've seen people claim they've got 4.4 all core on their 3900X. I've even seen one person claim they got 4.5 all core on less than 1.3. Either they're lying or "won" the lottery. Here's to hoping AMD did something crazy and Igor wasn't blowing smoke anyone's butt.
 
A/// said:
I've seen people claim they've got 4.4 all core on their 3900X. I've even seen one person claim they got 4.5 all core on less than 1.3. Either they're lying or "won" the lottery. Here's to hoping AMD did something crazy and Igor wasn't blowing smoke anyone's butt.
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That's overclocking. I'm talking boost clocks. My 3900X will do 4.4 GHz all-core static OC (okay, more like 4350 Mhz for serious work), but the boost algo won't go that high.
 
DrMrLordX said:
That's overclocking. I'm talking boost clocks. My 3900X will do 4.4 GHz all-core static OC (okay, more like 4350 Mhz for serious work), but the boost algo won't go that high.
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Ah. No idea. I know very few people IRL or online who own 3900Xs.. which is weird considering how great the price point is. I've read meh reports on the XT hitting high boosts for long periods of time but I've also heard the complete opposite.
 
I am excited both to see where the new chips land and if they can take the gaming crown which I see as very likely considering how close it was already, and hopefully see a good drop in the 3950x or 3900x. I am finally upgrading my GPU from an R9 290 by the end of the year with a 3080 or big Navi, and need a new CPU to go with it, currently running an 1700 on an x370
 
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