The "Zen Team" is hiring => https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/physical-design-engineer-76895-at-amd-1569427291You guys not afraid that AMD is gonna bulldoze it with “a completely new arch” ??
Not sure what you want to imply there. The worst they can realistically do is stagnate, of which there is no indication.You guys not afraid that AMD is gonna bulldoze it with “a completely new arch” ??
You guys not afraid that AMD is gonna bulldoze it with “a completely new arch” ??
So, it seems unlikely that they'll depart away from Zen. Specifically, for a radical new architecture or clustered multithreading returning in top-end high-performance.
Zen -> Zen2 -> Zen3 -> Zen4 -> Zen5, are all set names. Nothing is going to push Zen naming out.
Not sure what you want to imply there. The worst they can realistically do is stagnate, of which there is no indication.
I think he meant if AMD is going to do Bulldozer Arch 2.0 with features like CMT.
NOooooooo....I am hoping on BD CMT tricks as well.
NOooooooo....
Well, in theory monolithic might actually prevent you from getting better performance IMO.
I dot see the point at all unless you chose an APU ans discard the GPU (since they are monolithic at least for now) .
I'm hoping that there's a premium SKU for 8C/16T, ideally monolithic in full. I want lower latency, max clock/IPC, without the better dies being binned entirely up to behemoth multi chiplet SKUs.
From experiencing my TR2920x vs 3700X vs 2700X, along with a stupid iMac Pro Xeon, I've come to the conclusion that I really don't need more cores. 8 is even overkill a lot of the time, though 6 feels bare minimum now. But I'd choose 5Ghz all-core 8C almost every time vs 4.5Ghz of even 64 cores or more.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't mind seeing 24C/32C Zen3 AM4+ SKUs, should that come to pass. Just want better 8C (or higher monolithic options). Something good could replace my 3700X and 9900KS into a one box solution. 2920X is being gifted off, it is a bad fit for my uses.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.But no matter how good IF+Chiplet gets, it's necessarily slower than a theoretical identical design with everything on a unified die.
12LP+ doesn't have a density improvement. However, if GloFo is a requirement then 12FDX does.Is there any chance of GF 12LP+ happening with Zen3 for IOD?
Any density improvements from 12LP+ on top of the gain from 7nm+ could come in handy if AMD want to use that silicon real estate for going wider or adding more cache.
Not worth it for AMD to make something like that. Still, 4700x/4800x(?) will make every current 8 core CPU obsolete performance wise.I'm hoping that there's a premium SKU for 8C/16T, ideally monolithic in full. I want lower latency, max clock/IPC, without the better dies being binned entirely up to behemoth multi chiplet SKUs.
From experiencing my TR2920x vs 3700X vs 2700X, along with a stupid iMac Pro Xeon, I've come to the conclusion that I really don't need more cores. 8 is even overkill a lot of the time, though 6 feels bare minimum now. But I'd choose 5Ghz all-core 8C almost every time vs 4.5Ghz of even 64 cores or more.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't mind seeing 24C/32C Zen3 AM4+ SKUs, should that come to pass. Just want better 8C (or higher monolithic options). Something good could replace my 3700X and 9900KS into a one box solution. 2920X is being gifted off, it is a bad fit for my uses.
That looks good. Both performance and battery life, that is. Renoir just slaughters everything at 15W.Anybody want a Renoir review in an actual device?
Обзор и тестирование ноутбука Acer Swift 3 SF314-42 на базе новейшего шестиядерного процессора AMD Ryzen 5 4500U. Zen 2 для APU
Acer продолжает радовать нас новыми моделями в семействе ультрабуков Acer Swift. Для тех, кто ищет экономичное компактное устройство, компания приготовила сюрприз в виде Swift SF314-42 на базе нового 7-нм процессора AMD Ryzen 5...translate.google.com
Looks to be a 15W device, LPDDR4-3200, battery life looks splendid compared to Picasso (12 hours in PCMark10!) with a 4471mAh battery. Lots to talk about here, and it's a rather impressive first showing if you ask me.
From Zen to Zen+ was +3.5%, Zen+ to Zen2 was +15%.Zen2 jump was +15% so:
1.15 x 1.22 = 1.40 (+40%)
1.15 x 1.176 = 1.35 (+35%)... I guess you calculate also with Zen1+ jump.
Not quite off topic, because AMD's Zen3 performance targets are directly pertinent to Apple's potential Intel replacement, in that they will be competing in the laptop marketplace. My question to you is - on that Povray benchmark where A13 is +25% faster, I'd like to have a source for that and any other benchmarks where A13 beats Zen2, for my own review (of course I've already seen coverage of the SPEC benchmarks - the Povray ones interest me).It's off topic here, but you are welcome to discuss A13 performance in its thread here. At page 17 and 18 there are SPEC bench and also Geek Bench 5.1 comparison. For example A13 in Povray benchmark is +25% faster which means 2.2x higher IPC (+121%) so Blender might be very similar to it. It's kind of unfair because A13 core has double transistors, 4x more L1$ and 16x more L2$ than Zen2 core. Different core for different market.
All pretty until you get into 1000mm2 die sides and get into the realm of the unmanufacturable, next to impossible to cool down, internal connectivity nightmare, ...But no matter how good IF+Chiplet gets, it's necessarily slower than a theoretical identical design with everything on a unifed die.
it has been taken down.
I'm surprised with the battery life results, because more cores more idle power usage and more cores more load power usage.Anybody want a Renoir review in an actual device?
Anyone knows what sort of latency you could expect from LPDDR4-3200?
I'm surprised with the battery life results, because more cores more idle power usage and more cores more load power usage.
This hasn't been true with any Zen chip actually. The Zen cores themselves all have been very good at power gating when not in use. It always has been the uncore that ate pretty much all the power at idle, and Renoir looks to be the Zen uncore most optimized for mobile usage yet.I'm surprised with the battery life results, because more cores more idle power usage