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AMD is iterating (so far) at a much faster pace than both intel and ARM competitors (where they compete). I don't know how long they can sustain this pace, but if they keep it up, their competitors are going to have an extremely difficult time ever catching up. We'll see what happens.
They're not slacking out of choice. I'm not certain of this, but supposedly they've had to easen up on some of the roadmaps, mostly due to trying to speed up future cadence between uArchs.
Their partners not keeping up the pace (like GloFo dropping out of the 7nm race, ASMedia failing to deliver a PCIe 4 chipset on time, board partners taking longer to deliver the platform for the chips etc.) likely slows down AMD as well. In fact that should be an advantage Intel should clearly have over AMD, alas...
I have some difficulty wrapping my head around this, as to why this would be even in Press deck from Gigabyte.
Loads of new rumors like the last time around.
You'll have to trust me on that one, it's in the slide deck. It's weird AF, but it's there for sure.
I don't doubt that. That is why I find it strange.
It's not the first time we've had some weird press decks that looked like they were done in MS paint by someone whose blood has turned into coffee racing against the clock.
That is not a professional slide deck. No way, no how. "Checks calendar" - nope, not April 1st.
I'm not sure how else to put it. I have a copy, it's real.
I believe you.
It looks like it was created in Google Slides on a Chromebook, exported to pptx, imported to Keynote on a Mac, exported to ods, then imported to PowerPoint on a Windows machine that only has Times New Roman font installed.
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Is that anything like the Star Wars prequels translated to Chinese and back again through Google translate?
Intel/AMD wants the cadence to be a year, but in reality its closer to 13 months. Any little setback adds to that. 15 months is not bad at all for today's complex CPUs.
Whatever the case may be, I can guarantee you that "slacking" is not a reason for the launch cycle being more than 12 months. That would be a gross underestimation of the complexity of designing a CPU. Also, I would much rather have a slightly slower launch cycle with a fully realized design than some rushed, half-baked design with features cut or disabled just to hit a deadline; wouldn't you? Why do we need a perfect 12-month cycle? Does the world end if we can't upgrade our CPUs every year?
Plus now AMD and the board partners have to maintain separate UEFI betas for old boards to include support for Vermeer.
Dali and Van Gogh's roommate.
Wrong perspective. Does AMD's world end if they can't maintain their cadence? Look at what has happened to Intel. Anyone can fail, at any time.
Intel still does maintain a cadence. Just the wrong kind, minor updates to conceal that the actual intended improvements didn't pan out as planned.
Actually, they botched Comet Lake-S. They were off by 5-6 months. The intended release was Dec. 2019, not May 2020.
Yep, and now Rocket Lake-S is rumored for release around 6 months after CML-S (with recent leaks not being very promising in terms of performance). They have the cadence of a drunk trying to play the maracas.
I only saw one leak on RKL-S, that was pretty lame - but one sample doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
Base clock typically doesn't apply when the iGPU is under load in a TDP-limited scenario, so that argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. We have no idea what CPU clocks Renoir on the desktop can maintain when the iGPU is being stressed.
Those are efficiency gains in the uncore, not the core (aside smaller cache). The improvements can't be applied verbatim to the IOD since it's cut down compared to the others.
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