Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

[B-Riz]

That's not what happened.

? The last posts were a mini meltdown in the Skylake / Kabylake thread. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake.2428363/page-407

Did the success of Ryzen cause them to leave AT forums?

 

[CHADBOGA]

? The last posts were a mini meltdown in the Skylake / Kabylake thread. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake.2428363/page-407

Did the success of Ryzen cause them to leave AT forums?

Nope

 

[JoeRambo]

Compare apples to apples - Pinnacle Ridge 6C/12T at 4GHz vs this sample, also at 4GHz.
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13241660?baseline=13267824
ST up by ~11% MT up by ~15%

Very impressive results, even more so considering atrociuos memory latency. I took the liberty to compare the results to 4Ghz CFL with tight memory:

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13241660?baseline=13277187

The fact that Ryzen operates so well with latency twice as high is incredible.

 

[french toast]

Memory latency has gone up a bit, but that might get fixed with a launch bios or more likely down the road with optimised firmware.
Have we got apples to apples comparison with coffelake with that memory setup?

 

[Asterox]

Compare apples to apples - Pinnacle Ridge 6C/12T at 4GHz vs this sample, also at 4GHz.
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13241660?baseline=13267824
ST up by ~11% MT up by ~15%

6/12 Matisse Zen 2 in Geekbeench, what CPU clocks where do you see 4ghz?Geekbeench only shows 3.2ghz for green Matisse sample?

If we go by this, 3.2ghz green dragon is faster than 4ghz 6/12 R5 2600X?

 

[Abwx]

Very impressive results, even more so considering atrociuos memory latency. I took the liberty to compare the results to 4Ghz CFL with tight memory:

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13241660?baseline=13277187

The fact that Ryzen operates so well with latency twice as high is incredible.

And also that the AES MT score of this CFL is highly inflated for some reason...

6/12 Matisse Zen 2 in Geekbeench, what CPU clocks where do you see 4ghz?Geekbeench only shows 3.2ghz for green Matisse sample?

If we go by this, 3.2ghz green dragon is faster than 4ghz 6/12 R5 2600X?

It run at way more than 3.2, i guess it has low base frequency because of AVX2 + FMA at full throughput.

 

[Dayman1225]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132614249233076224

Tum has reportedly found a 6/12 R5 sku

 

[inf64]

Take with a grain of salt of course :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1130745313705127936

 

[moinmoin]

No, the hit piece done by CTS labs on AMD doesn't count as these "vulnerabilities" required root access on the system to exploit.

Regardless if one counts them or not, they were all fixed so no longer matter anyway.

 

[Asterox]

Take with a grain of salt of course :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1130745313705127936

It is very expected CPU models no doubt. 6/6 CPU is no problem, for 110-120$ to runs all or any Intel's CPU offer of similar prices.

Let's be real, who is not happy with the Zen 2 6/6 CPU for red prices?

 

[davidbepo]

the adoredtv leak is falling apart, nice
only thing left is clocks, lets see how my 4,7 GHz prediction fares

 

[maddie]

the adoredtv leak is falling apart, nice
only thing left is clocks, lets see how my 4,7 GHz prediction fares

I'm confused. What exactly do we KNOW right now? As far as I see, all we have is confusing teases.

 

[davidbepo]

I'm confused. What exactly do we KNOW right now? As far as I see, all we have is confusing teases.

ryzen 5 is 6c/12t contradicting the adoredtv "leak":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132614249233076224

 

[Kenmitch]

I'm confused. What exactly do we KNOW right now? As far as I see, all we have is confusing teases.

The keynote is at 7PM tonight pacific time as far as I can tell.

After 3k replies and months of speculation it's all coming down to the keynote it looks like. I'm not sure how Lisa Su pulled it off, but it looks like she's clamped down hard on the leaks.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

ryzen 5 is 6c/12t contradicting the adoredtv "leak":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132614249233076224

Isn’t this a confusing leak?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The keynote is at 7PM tonight pacific time as far as I can tell.

After 3k replies and months of speculation it's all coming down to the keynote it looks like. I'm not sure how Lisa Su pulled it off, but it looks like she's clamped down hard on the leaks.

Or it’s a disappointment....
However we will find out more in 12 hours.

 

[Enigmoid]

ryzen 5 is 6c/12t contradicting the adoredtv "leak":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132614249233076224

I have no clue how getting the naming scheme wrong contradicts a leak. Adored gave that leak months ago and the naming scheme was certaintly subject to change. Remember that leaks like that signify what AMD was planning months ago. AMD changing their mind in the subsequent months and renaming things doesn't make the leaks wrong.

 

[Asterox]

ryzen 5 is 6c/12t contradicting the adoredtv "leak":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132614249233076224

CPU label is not important, it can be Ryzen 3 6/12 or Ryzen 5 6 /12 not important at all. Details like this can be changed in any time, and especially six months before the Zen 2 launch.

And remember, it is only AMD decision or choice to launch/or not lounch a cheap 6/6 Zen 2 CPU model.

Original AdoredTV leak is just a list, or 80% what you can expected from Zen 2 CPU lineup.There is nothing wrong with old AdoredTV leak, just do not expect 100% same CPU models and details.

 

[inf64]

Or it’s a disappointment....
However we will find out more in 12 hours.

It depends on what you are expecting. We were promised more cores, more IPC, more clocks, similar TDPs, same socket/backwards compatibility. All leaks point out to ~15% general IPC improvement with up to ~2x in AVX/FMA workloads. Clocks seem to reach high depending on the model (almost ~5Ghz Turbo @ stock should be seen on at least one model in the lineup). This is going to be a huge launch that will make intel's HEDT platform(i9-7980XE) look silly and relegate their top of the line mainstream SKU (9900K) to midrange class.

 

[Thunder 57]

In all fairness to the 9900k, the FX9590 never sat at the top of the desktop performance heap. The 9900k is top dog until Monday, not counting HEDT...

Note the comma. Without it it would imply with performance as well. With it, it seems to mean that the 9900k uses as much power and that (the 9900k) has the performance as well. I had to re-read that line too.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It depends on what you are expecting. We were promised more cores, more IPC, more clocks, similar TDPs, same socket/backwards compatibility. All leaks point out to ~15% general IPC improvement with up to ~2x in AVX/FMA workloads. Clocks seem to reach high depending on the model (almost ~5Ghz Turbo @ stock should be seen on at least one model in the lineup). This is going to be a huge launch that will make intel's HEDT platform(i9-7980XE) look silly and relegate their top of the line mainstream SKU (9900K) to midrange class.

Agreed, I’ll admit I’m negative Nancy regarding AMD, feels like they are experts at finding a way to screw something up.
I’ll also admit Dr. Su runs a tight ship.

 

[Asterox]

It depends on what you are expecting. We were promised more cores, more IPC, more clocks, similar TDPs, same socket/backwards compatibility. All leaks point out to ~15% general IPC improvement with up to ~2x in AVX/FMA workloads. Clocks seem to reach high depending on the model (almost ~5Ghz Turbo @ stock should be seen on at least one model in the lineup). This is going to be a huge launch that will make intel's HEDT platform(i9-7980XE) look silly and relegate their top of the line mainstream SKU (9900K) to midrange class.

Well people are expecting 6/12 Zen 2 for 100$. But hey it will probably or most likely be only 6/6 CPU for 100$, or total disappointment.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-9th-gen-core-i5-9400f/p/N82E16819117981

 

[Mockingbird]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132660727993364480

 

[Karnak]

Seems reasonable since it's a non-X with most likely 65W TDP.

 

[JDG1980]

How come single-thread performance barely went up while multi-thread performance went up by almost 20%?

Maybe SMT is much more efficient on Zen2 than on Zen/Zen+ due to more execution resources?