Arkaign
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- Oct 27, 2006
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Yeah, properly tuned Coffee Lake @ 5Ghz is a beast. Of course it needs 2080TI and fast memory to shine. Sadly AMD seems to have ~same IPC, but clock deficit is just too large to reign in gaming.
Real question about new chips is -> can AMD improve things with new AGESA versions and can faster, highly tuned DRAM ( talking 3600CL15 stuff ) help recover some of that gap.
So my conclusion is the same, for any OCed 8700K/9700K/9900K owner out there is no need to move anywhere, unless they really need more threads for content creation. In that case 3900x and 3950x will shine.
Personally i am a bit sad, i was sceptical, but the hype about the clocks was so easy to believe into. 4.6-4.7 would have put these chips in real good position vs Intel.
Yeah. For OEM type systems where people will run stock, the results are really close. Enthusiasts though with unlocked CPUs and big air coolers (like me), the gap between them in gaming is sometimes enormous.
I mean Hitman is like ~100 to ~140 FPS, or close to it in just one example, and for a 144Hz Freesync/Gysnc panel, that's a generational divide. I'm not going to call anyone out really, but can you imagine if Zen2 was beating Intel 140 to 100fps in a major title? We'd see a LOT of hype about that kind of performance, and for good reason.
I get it, Intel has been a stagnant, arrogant bag of BS for eons now, with overpriced nonsense and arbitrary socket changes. I want them kicked in the kneecaps a pretty good bit to get them going, as nothing but good competition will do so. As it happens, Zen2 is HANDS DOWN the best all-purpose desktop CPU lineup out there. It's just extremely disappointing for gamers, a definite sector of desktop computing that has really helped the health and technology for the industry. Without PC gaming, I think we'd see a lot less variety and progress to be seen.
I'm lucky because I have both a 2700X and 8086k desktops, for wildly differing uses. I'll probably hold out for a 3950X to replace the 2700, and hope some of the issues are ironed out. As it stands, the 'unlocked' Zen2 looks like a complete waste of money, why not just choose the 3600 or 3700 vanilla and get basically the identical thing for less. *shrug*.