Which doesn't really change the status quo at all. Ryzen had already been better value for productivity long before this release. That lead is now extended, which was to be expected. What I didn't expect was the deficit in gaming, for all intents and purposes I thought Ryzen 3000 would at least bridge the gap, if not exceed Intel in gaming. Just look at the posts earlier in this thread...Looks like OC 8700K and 9700K/9900K still rule the roost for 1080p high refresh rate gaming, but outside of that niche are increasingly harder to justify.