Spanish 'Star-Spangled Banner' Draws Ire

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HermDogg

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Originally posted by: HermDogg
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
YOU DO NOT HAVE AN *OFFICIAL* NATIONAL LANGUAGE in the U.S.
No mention of one in any of your legal documents.

That makes you an "open territory".

Tough luck.

Read the first sentence again if you can't figure things out.

I'm waiting for the Chinese and Ebonics translations.

You mean all them legalized-documents that are written in English?



I mean NO LEGAL PROVISION EXPRESSLY AND CLEARLY STATING that English is the official national language of the Unites States.

As long as there's no such provision, you can (theoretically) have legally binding documents - even the DMCA revision, other laws or amendments to the Constitution - written in Chinese. Can't read it or speak it? Tough luck.

You are probably the only country in the world with no official language expressly laid down in its constitution. You probably have to re-write that document and vote on it, just like any other civilised country in the West.

why does it matter? :confused:
Even if it's not legally the official language, come down to the USA and you will find that we speak English.

Seriously. As far making a point goes, this argument is pathetic.
 

mercanucaribe

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I don't understand why it's a problem.
:confused:

Even if English was the official language, does that mean that the anthem can't be sung in Spanish? Maybe we should stop translating our TV shows and books to other languages and selling them all over the world???
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: kmr1212
"Press 1 for the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish....."

No, it's "Por la Star Spangled Banner en Espanol, oprima uno." :roll:

That gets me fvcking :| about this whole thing.

:|, I tell you! :|!
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
We have 'O Canada' in French & English and I had to know both in school. Who really gives a crap?

You should all be happy that the immigrants are so proud to be in the US, they are actually interested in the US national anthem and not just singing the one from their home country. They are only translating it, not changing the words into something offensive. Roseanne Barr did much worse IMO.

Canada's situation is much different than the US. Some people would argue that Quebec is an occupied country. Occupied by english speaking folks who don't want to let it secede.

Yeah, but there are some in the Mexican immigration movement that would like to see a seperate nation carved out of the US Southwest. Check out groups like Aztlan, Mecha, La Raza, and more.

True, and that's why I give a crap, unlike KeithTalent.

I think militant separatists are quite different from people wanting to enjoy their adopted nations anthem in their native language.

You are right, I don't give a crap, it is just a song. If lyrics are changed to encourage division or promote anti-nationalist sentiments, then I would care, but until then it is just the same song sung in a different language.

It's not the same song. They changed the lyrics.
 

zanieladie

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Originally posted by: Softballslug
Originally posted by: mugs
Man people have issues.... why all the hate on Mexicans?


Why does everyone assume this is about hating Mexicans??? Its NOT!

How would the Mexican government and people like it if all of the Americans went to Mexico and started demanding them to suddenly speak another language, change their national anthem to a new version??

For cripes sake people, its not about the people coming into the country, I have no problem with them at all, but they are in America now and need to abide by our rules and customs, if not, go back.




FTW! I am in agreement!
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: kmr1212
"Press 1 for the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish....."

No, it's "Por la Star Spangled Banner en Espanol, oprima uno." :roll:

That gets me fvcking :| about this whole thing.

:|, I tell you! :|!

Something made Nik mad?! Alert the press! :p
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that President Bush pretty much summed up my thoughts on this issue perfectly:

"I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English," he said at a Rose Garden question-and-answer session.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3827553.html

It's not very often that I agree 100% with him

What's really sad is that so many of the native English speakers in this country can't even speak English properly, and I bet 95% of native-born Americans don't know all of the words to the first verse of the national anthem.
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: CPA
Can't wait until all sporting events are forced to play the Star Spangled Banner and the Spanish version.

If that happens I think I will start killing some people.

To hell with spanish...speak english motherfuckers.

indeed
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
We have 'O Canada' in French & English and I had to know both in school. Who really gives a crap?

You should all be happy that the immigrants are so proud to be in the US, they are actually interested in the US national anthem and not just singing the one from their home country. They are only translating it, not changing the words into something offensive. Roseanne Barr did much worse IMO.

Canada's situation is much different than the US. Some people would argue that Quebec is an occupied country. Occupied by english speaking folks who don't want to let it secede.

Yeah, but there are some in the Mexican immigration movement that would like to see a seperate nation carved out of the US Southwest. Check out groups like Aztlan, Mecha, La Raza, and more.

True, and that's why I give a crap, unlike KeithTalent.

I think militant separatists are quite different from people wanting to enjoy their adopted nations anthem in their native language.

You are right, I don't give a crap, it is just a song. If lyrics are changed to encourage division or promote anti-nationalist sentiments, then I would care, but until then it is just the same song sung in a different language.

It's not the same song. They changed the lyrics.

In the remix yes, and I do not agree with that, though I have still heard worse manipulations of the anthem I'm sure. However, with regards to the regular translated version I stand by my previous comments.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that President Bush pretty much summed up my thoughts on this issue perfectly:

"I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English," he said at a Rose Garden question-and-answer session.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3827553.html

It's not very often that I agree 100% with him

What's really sad is that so many of the native English speakers in this country can't even speak English properly, and I bet 95% of native-born Americans don't know all of the words to the first verse of the national anthem.

I'm not going to argue with you on those two points.
 

Ornery

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Kev

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Why shouldn't it be sung in spanish?

I mean, the whole song is about Jose and what he can or can not see.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Kev
Why shouldn't it be sung in spanish?

I mean, the whole song is about Jose and what he can or can not see.

Nice, nice, way to bring some levity to the thread :)
 

Kev

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You know folks I had a real heck of a zinger in this thread and I don't think I've gotten my due quite yet.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: OdiN

If that happens I think I will start killing some people.

To hell with spanish...speak english motherfuckers.


How many countries have an official language? Why in the hell are we so afraid to make English our official language?

Oh that's right, politicians are prostitutes who are terrified of offending anyone, past, present, or future.
 

Horus

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Umm. I'm not even American and I find that disrespectful. They want to do a "remix" as well, adding stuff in? Yah, boycott this mofo ASAP. National Anthems are not meant to be fvcked with.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Horus
Umm. I'm not even American and I find that disrespectful. They want to do a "remix" as well, adding stuff in? Yah, boycott this mofo ASAP. National Anthems are not meant to be fvcked with.

hip/hop + boriqua + reggeton + this version of 'our anthem' = me getting angry....
 

Goosemaster

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Jsut because we are ecome the largest minority, adn slowy, perhaps gaining majority over all other races as citizens of this nation gives us no right to dictate the foundation of this nation.

This country's anthem is in english, period.


<--latin/hispanic and a proud us citizen who fvking hates latin radio stations for the msot part because they play such sh!tty music


reggeton = sh!t


sad thing is only the AM stations used to be good aroudn here...borinquen and and that other one that slips my mind....too bad AM reception is crap oiut here:(


<----his dad used to go on radio boriquen to promote his running team for the airline "TACA" :D