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EagleKeeper

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Currently a lot of the spam (Spam e-mail box) that I get contain an unsubscribe link. That link says I will be removed within the next 3-5 business days.
Why can I not get remoived immediately. The spammer can collect the do-not use list and resell it within the time frame. They obey the law, but I can still shafted.

Best way to to force a valid return address that is not a trash bin.
 

dmcowen674

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12-16-2003 President Bush speech on Anti-Spam Law

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
December 16, 2003

Fact Sheet: President Bush Signs Anti-Spam Law

On December 16, 2003, President Bush signed into law the Controlling
the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act of 2003
(CAN-SPAM Act), which establishes a framework of administrative,
civil, and criminal tools to help America's consumers, businesses, and
families combat unsolicited commercial e-mail, known as spam.

The new law is a pro-consumer measure that allows consumers to choose
to stop further unsolicited spam from a sender. It also provides a
protection against spam containing unmarked sexually-oriented or
pornographic material.

* Spam is a problem for Americans. E-mail is an extremely important
and effective means of communications and is used by millions of
Americans on a daily basis for personal and commercial purposes.
Its convenience and efficiency, however, are increasingly
threatened by the rise in spam. Spam currently accounts for over
half of all e-mail traffic. Today, most spam is fraudulent or
deceptive in nature. The growth in spam also imposes significant
costs on Internet Service Providers (ISPs), businesses, and other
organizations, since they can only handle a finite volume of
e-mail without making further investments in their infrastructure.
* The law provides a well-balanced approach that will help to
address some of the harmful impacts of spam. The problems
associated with spam cannot be solved by Federal legislation
alone, but will require the development and adoption of new
technologies. Nonetheless, the law will help address the problems
associated with the rapid growth and abuse of spam. The new law
establishes important "rules of the road" for civil enforcement by
the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), other Federal agencies, State
attorneys general, and ISPs to help curb spam. It also creates new
criminal penalties to assist in deterring the most offensive forms
of spam, including unmarked sexually-oriented messages and e-mails
containing fraudulent headers. At the same time, the law caps
statutory damages for civil violations in most cases. The law also
provides greater certainty in interstate commerce for businesses
that would otherwise face a wide diversity of state laws on spam.
* The law builds upon the Administration's efforts to empower
consumers with choices in the technology field. Under the law,
consumers are provided with a choice not to receive any further
unsolicited messages from a sender. Senders that do not honor a
consumer's request are subject to civil penalties.
* The law strengthens a cornerstone of the Administration's agenda
to help protect children against pornography. The law makes spam
containing unmarked sexually-oriented material a criminal offense.
The labeling requirement gives parents a tool to protect their
children from such messages. Under the law, senders of e-mail are
required to place warning labels on messages containing
sexually-oriented or pornographic material. If they knowingly
violate this requirement, spammers are subject to fines or
imprisonment.
* The Administration supports the law's tools to help deter the
harmful effects of deceptive and misleading spam. The law
establishes both civil and criminal prohibitions to deter spammers
from using false or misleading identification, and imposes
penalties against spammers for these violations.
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dmcowen674

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This Law goes into effect Jan 1. I would love to be proven wrong on this but I'm sorry this Law "Legalizes" spam. Having Spam actually go up after Jan 1 will prove that. Like I said I hope I am wrong.
 

dmcowen674

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Here's some articles also saying that Spam is now "Legal" although many of the AT Experts in here was saying that is not the case, why would I say such a thing:

Spam Officially Legal

President Bush today signed the "Can Spam Act of 2003", giving the green light to 'legit' marketers to spam away, while providing stiff penalties to misleading spammers. Companies love it, anti-spam experts are essentially disgusted. Reuters reports on the Bush signing with somewhat more skepticism than earlier reports.

Yahoo, E-bay, and Earthlink quickly issued press releases applauding the idea. Analysts like the Gartner group have been less enthusiastic, sending clients a note suggesting that "Disreputable spammers will find no need to comply with the legislation," - "Should spammers feel at risk, the spam e-mail will be sent through an offshore ISP, outside U.S. jurisdiction."

Organizations like Spamhaus (United States Legalizes Spamming on Jan 1 2004 )have argued the marketing association backed legislation legalizes spam instead of banning it. The White House says the law "builds upon the Administration's efforts to empower consumers with choices in the technology field." You can find the White House's press release here, and about a million different opinions (surely you can find one you like) via google news.

Better yet, read the legislation yourself and form your own opinion.
CAN-SPAM Act of 2003

 

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When two groups fight, the government steps in and robs them both.
So far the government has perty much left the internet alone, allowing it to fix it's self.
Which would probably happen if the government stayed out.

It seems funny that a couple months after Bill Gates was on TV complaining about spam, a law against it comes out.

The governments idea of a tax as a cure, is a very bad idea.
I dislike spammers as much as any one since I delete a lot of ligitimate Email because I don't filter my Emails well.
But the bigger bully on the block is clearly the government.
I can't see me getting behind & backing either the spammers or the government.

 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Judge throws Anti-Spam Lawsuit out. Florida Computer Techs Free to Spam:

12-30-2003 AOL Anti-Spam Lawsuit Dismissed

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by AOL against a group of Florida computer technicians that the leading Internet provider charged with helping deliver spam e-mails, lawyers for the technicians said on Tuesday.

Anyone have the judge's email address? :p
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Judge throws Anti-Spam Lawsuit out. Florida Computer Techs Free to Spam:

12-30-2003 AOL Anti-Spam Lawsuit Dismissed

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by AOL against a group of Florida computer technicians that the leading Internet provider charged with helping deliver spam e-mails, lawyers for the technicians said on Tuesday.

Anyone have the judge's email address? :p

Hehehe, bet it's not AOL or he may not een have a computer, although most Judges have one on the bench nowadays.

Edit: I'd also have to say I have never spammed anyone in my life but I would spam this Judge or anyone else that makes it easier for Spammers to get away with Spamming.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Judge throws Anti-Spam Lawsuit out. Florida Computer Techs Free to Spam:

12-30-2003 AOL Anti-Spam Lawsuit Dismissed

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by AOL against a group of Florida computer technicians that the leading Internet provider charged with helping deliver spam e-mails, lawyers for the technicians said on Tuesday.

Anyone have the judge's email address? :p

Hehehe, bet it's not AOL or he may not een have a computer, although most Judges have one on the bench nowadays.

Edit: I'd also have to say I have never spammed anyone in my life but I would spam this Judge or anyone else that makes it easier for Spammers to get away with Spamming.



Judge found that Virginia courts did not have jurisdiction over the Florida-based defendants

AOL is based in VA; so they will now need to file in FL.


Hold the spam for now. The judge did not say they have the right to spam.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Judge throws Anti-Spam Lawsuit out. Florida Computer Techs Free to Spam:

12-30-2003 AOL Anti-Spam Lawsuit Dismissed

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by AOL against a group of Florida computer technicians that the leading Internet provider charged with helping deliver spam e-mails, lawyers for the technicians said on Tuesday.

Anyone have the judge's email address? :p

Hehehe, bet it's not AOL or he may not een have a computer, although most Judges have one on the bench nowadays.

Edit: I'd also have to say I have never spammed anyone in my life but I would spam this Judge or anyone else that makes it easier for Spammers to get away with Spamming.



Judge found that Virginia courts did not have jurisdiction over the Florida-based defendants

AOL is based in VA; so they will now need to file in FL.


Hold the spam for now. The judge did not say they have the right to spam.

But Bush did, all they have to do is put a Legimate Address in each E-mail for the receiever to have to reply to Opt out. You can send a Billion (figureI'll use that word since the Politicians love that number) Spam E-mails for the recepient to have to Opt out from and still be LEGAL. UnFvcking real :|
 

EagleKeeper

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Dave:

I will not fault the judge.

However, I agree whole heartedly regarding the mess that Bush did for the spammers.

Rule should be simple:
A national no-spam list.
Any spam (opt-in or not should have a valid return address.
If you get spam after you are on the list, forward the spam to the legal authority which will either fine the spammer or the host ISP if the spam address is a spoof (another illegal).
Percentage of the fine is returned to the victim.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Dave:

I will not fault the judge.

However, I agree whole heartedly regarding the mess that Bush did for the spammers.

Rule should be simple:
A national no-spam list.
Any spam (opt-in or not should have a valid return address.
If you get spam after you are on the list, forward the spam to the legal authority which will either fine the spammer or the host ISP if the spam address is a spoof (another illegal).
Percentage of the fine is returned to the victim.

The comparison will be easy. England did it right and time will tell on how they do. Time will tell with us shortly and I can see what will happen.

All the major U.S. ISP's will have to turn their E-mail Gateways off, they will not be able to handle the load. E-mail will essentially be useless and dead in the U.S. until they figure out how to fix the mess they made. I'm sure that on the other side they will be deep in everyone's pockets which is the whole goal to begin with.


 

dmcowen674

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1-5-2004 Washington Man Sues Pennysylvania Telemarketer Firm for $600,000 Over Unsolicited E-Mails

HOPWOOD, Pa. - A man from Washington state has accused a western Pennsylvania telemarketer of sending him hundreds of unsolicited e-mails and has sued the company under his state's anti-spam law.

In a complaint filed in his home state court last month, Jim Gordon of Richland, Wash., said he wants Commonwealth Marketing Group Inc. of Hopwood, Fayette County, to pay him $500 for each piece of spam the company allegedly sent him. According to Gordon, that adds up to more than $600,000 for more than 1,200 messages.

"My motivation is to get this spam stopped," Gordon told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette for a story in Sunday editions. "I sent them a letter saying stop. And they didn't."

 

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Why is it that everytime you post Dave the post is so wide I have to scroll sideways to read it.
This does not happen in anyone elses threads.

Bleep
 

dmcowen674

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If you're going to be pissed at someone don't use E-mail as the FBI is tracking:

[I've never liked the term "web bug" -- all we're talking about, I
believe, is an HTML email message that includes an <img> tag to import
a graphic image from a remote site. That remote site then has some
information about what IP address or proxy you're using to read the
email. The solution is to disable importation of <img> tags or use a
text-based mail reader, like the one I'm using to write this
message. Unfortunately for him, this (alleged) Best Buy extortion
artist didn't know any better. --Declan]

---

From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms@computerbytesman.com>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan@well.com>
Subject: Is the FBI using email Web bugs?
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:12:44 -0500

Hi Declan,

Hmm, is an "Internet Protocol Address Verifier" just an email Web bug? If
so, the suspect should have been using Outlook 2003 which blocks 'em. ;-)

Richard

Feds thwart extortion plot against Best Buy
http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/4304797.html

The federal search warrant was obtained the morning of Oct. 24 and allowed
the FBI, with Best Buy's cooperation, to use an Internet device known as an
Internet Protocol Address Verifier. It contained a program that
automatically sent back a response to Best Buy after the company sent a
message to the e-mail address. The response allowed investigators to
identify Ray as the sender of the e-mail threats, according to the
government.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Luehr said the address verifier was one of
several investigative tools the government used to track Ray down.

"It was a tool that helped us confirm that other leads were moving in the
same direction," said Luehr, who declined to discuss details of the
investigation.

Ray faces a maximum of two years in prison and a $250,000 fine for property
and reputation extortion. He faces a maximum sentence of five years in
prison and a fine of $250,000 for threats to damage computers.
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Judge throws Anti-Spam Lawsuit out. Florida Computer Techs Free to Spam:

12-30-2003 AOL Anti-Spam Lawsuit Dismissed

A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by AOL against a group of Florida computer technicians that the leading Internet provider charged with helping deliver spam e-mails, lawyers for the technicians said on Tuesday.

On the plus side, it's just a matter of jurisdiction. AOL can still file a lawsuit in Florida.
 

dmcowen674

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I can say persobnally that Spam is up, way up and my wife Donna would confirm. We were running about 80 Spam E-mails a day and now running around 200 in just the laft few days. Just a short matter of time the ISP's shut down the Mail Gateways so they can start charging more money for it all.

1-11-2004 Inbox Trauma: New Anti-Spam Tools Falter, swimming in Spam

"Now we have a green light for what would come to be called `legal spam,'" said Vincent Schiavone, chief executive of the ePrivacy Group consultancy. By establishing official guidelines for what's permissible, "the federal law made unsolicited mail legal but no less unwanted."

 

dmcowen674

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Check out this scam I just got in my inbox:

Dear Union Planters customer,

It has come to our attention that your Union Planters Bank account information records are out of date. That requires you to update the bank account Information If you could please take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and update your bank account records, you will not run into any future problems with Union Planters online service. However, failure to update your records will result in account termination. Please update your records in maximum 24 hours. Once you have updated your account records, your Union Planters session will not be interrupted and will continue as normal. Failure to update will result in cancellation of service, Terms of Service (TOS) violations or future account problems.

Please click here to update your bank account records.

Thank you for your time!
John Lensy,
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wonder how many Tin Foil Hat wearers will click on that lick and give away their Bank Account info? :confused:
 

dmcowen674

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Well well well, the Nigerian E-mails weren't even from Nigeria:

1-30-2004 Dutch Police Arrest 52 in Nigerian E-Mail Scam

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Dutch police have arrested 52 people suspected of defrauding gullible Internet users in one of the largest busts of the infamous "Nigerian e-mail" scam.

Also known as an "advance fee" or "419" scheme, the scammers sent spam e-mails asking for help in transferring a large sum of money out of a politically or economically troubled country, in exchange for a generous percentage.

Robert Meulenbroek, spokesman for the Amsterdam prosecutor's office, said the ring broken this week had reaped millions of euros (dollars). Recent victims included people from the United States, Japan, England, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland.

Nigeria has recently stepped up its efforts to eradicate the scam, which taints its image abroad. The Central Bank of Nigeria denies any connection to the scammers, and Nigerian agencies have been placing warning advertisements in international newspapers for years.

The scam is sometimes called a "419" fraud due to the Nigerian criminal code outlawing it.
 

dmcowen674

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The Can Spam sure is helping slow down the Spam, now I'm getting at least 200 of these a day,

Is anyone tired of getting of this yet??? :confused:


Hi,

Super Vbagra - Cizlis is finally here
Dubbed "The Weekend Pitl" by experts

AVAILXBLE FACTCRY DIRECT
AT A FRACTION OF THE COST

* LVNGER LPSTING
Up to 36 hours
compared to 4 hours
for vikgra

* ACTS FASTER
from as little as 15 minvtes
compared to 60 minctes for Vdagra

Securely and discrxetly online
Avoid the embarrassment of waiting in doctmr's office
Clwck Here for
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Can Spam sure is helping slow down the Spam, now I'm getting at least 200 of these a day,

Is anyone tired of getting of this yet??? :confused:


Hi,

Super Vbagra - Cizlis is finally here
Dubbed "The Weekend Pitl" by experts

AVAILXBLE FACTCRY DIRECT
AT A FRACTION OF THE COST

* LVNGER LPSTING
Up to 36 hours
compared to 4 hours
for vikgra

* ACTS FASTER
from as little as 15 minvtes
compared to 60 minctes for Vdagra

Securely and discrxetly online
Avoid the embarrassment of waiting in doctmr's office
Clwck Here for

Maybe they think you have a need? :D:p

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Can Spam sure is helping slow down the Spam, now I'm getting at least 200 of these a day,

Is anyone tired of getting of this yet??? :confused:


Hi,

Super Vbagra - Cizlis is finally here
Dubbed "The Weekend Pitl" by experts

AVAILXBLE FACTCRY DIRECT
AT A FRACTION OF THE COST

* LVNGER LPSTING
Up to 36 hours
compared to 4 hours
for vikgra

* ACTS FASTER
from as little as 15 minvtes
compared to 60 minctes for Vdagra

Securely and discrxetly online
Avoid the embarrassment of waiting in doctmr's office
Clwck Here for

Maybe they think you have a need? :D:p

CkG

Apparently this guy did and he actually tried them and they don't work so he is sueing :D :

2-8-2004 California Man Sues Penis-enlargement Spam firms says Products do not work

A California man on Thursday sued a slew of international companies, including a Greeley distributor, alleging the penis-enlargement products they market and distribute do not work.

The lawsuit names as defendants Leading Edge Marketing Inc. of British Columbia, TechniPak LLC of Greeley and several others. The lawsuit described TechniPak as the "operational hub" of the enterprise.

The California man paid $160 for an order of VigRx Oil after receiving an unsolicited e-mail touting the product, according to his declaration.

"I used the products, but the products had no effect whatsoever," Horton wrote. "I now feel that I have been cheated out of my money by the sellers of the products. If possible, I would like to prevent the sellers of the products from cheating others as they have cheated me."



 

dmcowen674

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Wow, according to this SPAM I just got I'm a millionaire, WOOT!
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UNIVERSAL LOTTO SERVICE
INTERNATIONAL STAKE LOTTERY.
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION/PRIZE AWARD DEPT.
REF: 232/656/4509
BATCH; 427901527-Dg43
WINNING FINAL NOTIFICATION.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Lottery Winners
International programs held on the 29th of Feb 2004. Your e-mail address attached to ticket number 17542065876-6483 with serial number 1762-544 drew lucky numbers 8-16-18-23-31-45 which consequently won in the 2nd category, you are therefore been approved for a sum of ?1,000,000.00.

Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your winning information very confidential till your claims have been processed and your prize/money remitted to you. This is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some participants. All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from over 200,000.00 company and 300,000.00 individual email addresses and names from all over the world. This promotional program takes place annually. We hope with part of your winning you will take part in our next year ?2 million (Two Million Euros) international lottery.

To file for your claim, please contact our admin officer, Mr. Braden, who has been appointed by the lottery organization to file all necessary documents regarding your winning claim, and arrange to remit prize money to your nominated account. Please contact our admin officer through:

Email: admioffice@netscape.net
Tel: +31-618242821
Fax: +31-616176451

Payments to all the winners will be made before the deadline, which is March 29, 2004. Please send to our admin fax number and your telephone number so that they can send you the claims application form (A4), which you will complete and return to the same source. Note that all winnings must be claimed not later than 29th March 2004. After this date all unclaimed funds will be forfeited.

Please note, in order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications, remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do inform our admin officer as soon as possible. Congratulations once again from our members of staff and thank you for being part of our promotional program.

Sincerely yours,

Mrs. F. BOER
Lottery Coordinator.
 

dmcowen674

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3-6-2004 Bob Villa first to be charged under the Can Spam Act

Posted by timothy on Saturday March 06, @05:40PM
from the this-old-big-house dept.
rocketjam writes "Foster City, California-based ISP Hypertouch, Inc. has filed the first lawsuit alleging violations of the new Federal CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. The lawsuit was filed against BobVila.com and the spammer they hired, Bluestream Media, for sending Hypertouch customers unwanted, unsolicited email advertisements for Vila's "Home Again Newsletter." The suit alleges the defendents sent spam email ads with fraudulent headers and no physical address. It also alleges the emails were sent to randomly generated and harvested addresses as well as addresses that had replied to opt-out links in other spams. Hypertouch's attorney, John L. Fallat, said the CAN-SPAM Act offers little protection to the public, but they would use the few protections it offers to punish spammers." Reader Clemence links to Wired's coverage of the suit.