Soy- Stay Away for Men?

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mxnerd

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You should only buy the real soy milk in Chinese supermarkets or make your own soy milk using machines sold at Amazon. No additives, pure protein.
 
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You should only buy the real soy milk in Chinese supermarkets or make your own soy milk using machines sold at Amazon. No additives, pure protein.
I would never have paid attention to this, don't know squat about it other than having seen references to soy milk all over the place, but my doctor thinks I might have developed some lactose intolerance... or maybe gluten? Could it be coffee?? Some none or all???

Maybe I should pay more attention to milk substitutes. Do people put this stutt in, say, their coffee?
 
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No.

I also have some lactose intolerance . So I can't drink too much milk or eat too much ice cream at one time. :oops:
I am thinking I might, don't know what's causing my sometime indigestion issue... comes and goes and often pretty quickly. I suppose I need to sort it out somehow, do some testing, presumably self-experimenting. Maybe go lactose free for 3 days and see what happens? Same with gluten... then maybe coffee? *shrugs*

Maybe get non-dairy creamer. Have never given that a 2nd look except in situations where that's the only thing offered.
 

mxnerd

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I can take small amount of dairy products without problem.

I think reports said more than 75% of Asian people lose some capability to process lactose when they become adults.

Coffee has nothing to do with lactose apparently, unless you add creamer that's made of milk.
 

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Guess I'm lucky to have been lactose tolerant for as long as I have. I've been scaling back the last 2-3 weeks, maybe 50%. It's always seemed I could eat just about anything without problems. Maybe no longer... ;)
 

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I would never have paid attention to this, don't know squat about it other than having seen references to soy milk all over the place, but my doctor thinks I might have developed some lactose intolerance... or maybe gluten? Could it be coffee?? Some none or all???

Maybe I should pay more attention to milk substitutes. Do people put this stutt in, say, their coffee?
You can use plant based milks just like you use regular milk. In the past I only used milk for cereal or for recipes. I hated 1% milk and thought it was grey looking and gross. It didn't take me long to adjust to using plant based milk. I quit eating cereal and eat oatmeal now and don't really just drink the milk. I use it in my oatmeal, smoothies, coffee drinks and in tea which I just started drinking. Plant based milks have a long expiration date so that's convenient if you don't use a ton of milk. The almond and cashew blend seems very creamy to me. They also have flavored varieties like vanilla and chocolate. I only buy unsweetened though so keep an eye out of that if you don't want the added sugars.

Edit: Making plant based milk's doesn't require special equipment. Plenty of videos on youtube explain how. With almond milk and oat (I think) you only need a high speed blender and a nut milk bag. With soy you will need to cook the beans and/or soy milk.
 
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You can use plant based milks just like you use regular milk. In the past I only used milk for cereal or for recipes. I hated 1% milk and thought it was grey looking and gross. It didn't take me long to adjust to using plant based milk. I quit eating cereal and eat oatmeal now and don't really just drink the milk. I use it in my oatmeal, smoothies, coffee drinks and in tea which I just started drinking. Plant based milks have a long expiration date so that's convenient if you don't use a ton of milk. The almond and cashew blend seems very creamy to me. They also have flavored varieties like vanilla and chocolate. I only buy unsweetened though so keep an eye out of that if you don't want the added sugars.

Edit: Making plant based milk's doesn't require special equipment. Plenty of videos on youtube explain how. With almond milk and oat (I think) you only need a high speed blender and a nut milk bag. With soy you will need to cook the beans and/or soy milk.
Aren't plant based milks much more expensive? Myself, I always buy non-fat dry milk powder and reconstitute it. Been doing that for decades. Partly because I didn't have a car. A gallon of milk on a bicycle is kind of unwieldy. I've never bought much less experimented with plant based milks. But I may now, since it seems I may have developed some lactose intolerance.
 

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Aren't plant based milks much more expensive? Myself, I always buy non-fat dry milk powder and reconstitute it. Been doing that for decades. Partly because I didn't have a car. A gallon of milk on a bicycle is kind of unwieldy. I've never bought much less experimented with plant based milks. But I may now, since it seems I may have developed some lactose intolerance.
Where I live (WV) I've only seen them in 1/2 gallon sizes. Krogers will sometimes have them on sale 5 for $10. Normally they are $2.50 each and up depending on what you get. Normally the cheaper stuff here is the non-organic almond breeze and sometimes simple truth brand.
 

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Where I live (WV) I've only seen them in 1/2 gallon sizes. Krogers will sometimes have them on sale 5 for $10. Normally they are $2.50 each and up depending on what you get. Normally the cheaper stuff here is the non-organic almond breeze and sometimes simple truth brand.
What I've been doing since ~2 weeks ago hearing from my doctor that he thinks I may be lactose intolerant is cut back ~50% on my milk consumption. Researching online I see recommendations to not cut out lactose completely if you're lactose intolerant but to cut back. That way you are still physically trying to produce lactase, the enzyme that digests lactose.
 

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What I've been doing since ~2 weeks ago hearing from my doctor that he thinks I may be lactose intolerant is cut back ~50% on my milk consumption. Researching online I see recommendations to not cut out lactose completely if you're lactose intolerant but to cut back. That way you are still physically trying to produce lactase, the enzyme that digests lactose.
Thanks. I hadn't heard about that fact. I guess it's similar to your gut bacteria changing according to what you eat.
 

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Thanks. I hadn't heard about that fact. I guess it's similar to your gut bacteria changing according to what you eat.
I think it depends on the individual. AFAIK, I was never lactose intolerant until maybe recently. I still may not be, it's conjecture right now. But IIRC for some people who are lactose intolerant still do produce some lactase, and if you do, it's probably best to not lose that ability! Can discuss with your doctor.
 

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I've been eating next to no soy. I put less than a teaspoon of soy sauce in my homemade Asian noodle bowl the other day, other than that, nothing the last few weeks.
 

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Several years ago I started noticing soy in practically everything I bought that was prepackaged and/or processed. If you eat processed foods you're eating soy and corn products. GMO soy and corn products no doubt. From what I understand the farmers rotate the two crops. With farmers producing so much corn and soy they had to do something with it.