Source: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

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Robor

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Well that didn't take long. He's already reversed the reversal and banned them again.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...icle.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Guess you should read everything you sign.

From the link...

Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.

Rep. Diana DeGette (D.-Colo.) sponsored the House version of a bill--vetoed by President Bush--that would have legalized federal funding of stem cell research that destroys so-called ?spare? human embryos taken from in vitro fertilization clinics. On Monday, she told The New York Times she had already approached what she called ?several pro-life Democrats? about the possibility of repealing Dickey-Wicker.

?Dickey-Wicker is 13 years old now, and I think we need to review these policies,'' The Times quoted DeGette as saying. ?I?ve already talked to several pro-life Democrats about Dickey-Wicker, and they seemed open to the concept of reversing the policy if we could show that it was necessary to foster this research.?

Rep. Mike Castle (R.-Del.), who co-sponsored Rep. DeGette?s bill, similarly stated this week that Dickey-Wicker should be revisited.

"Certainly, the Dickey-Wicker amendment . . . is something we need to look at," Castle told Congressional Quarterly Today on Monday. "That was passed in 1996, before we realized the full potential of embryonic stem cell research. Some researchers are telling us now that that needs to be reversed."

Looks like it will be repealed.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Well that didn't take long. He's already reversed the reversal and banned them again.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...icle.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Guess you should read everything you sign.

Dickey is a Clinton era amendment. Nice to see the lefties backpedal from their own work and cry about it.

You're such a hack...

Rep. Mike Castle (R.-Del.), who co-sponsored Rep. DeGette?s bill, similarly stated this week that Dickey-Wicker should be revisited.

"Certainly, the Dickey-Wicker amendment . . . is something we need to look at," Castle told Congressional Quarterly Today on Monday. "That was passed in 1996, before we realized the full potential of embryonic stem cell research. Some researchers are telling us now that that needs to be reversed."
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Well that didn't take long. He's already reversed the reversal and banned them again.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...icle.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Guess you should read everything you sign.

Dickey is a Clinton era amendment. Nice to see the lefties backpedal from their own work and cry about it.

You're such a hack...

Rep. Mike Castle (R.-Del.), who co-sponsored Rep. DeGette?s bill, similarly stated this week that Dickey-Wicker should be revisited.

"Certainly, the Dickey-Wicker amendment . . . is something we need to look at," Castle told Congressional Quarterly Today on Monday. "That was passed in 1996, before we realized the full potential of embryonic stem cell research. Some researchers are telling us now that that needs to be reversed."

Is Slick going to apologize for 'holding back science' as you call it for 5 years?

 

Robor

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Well that didn't take long. He's already reversed the reversal and banned them again.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/...icle.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Guess you should read everything you sign.

Dickey is a Clinton era amendment. Nice to see the lefties backpedal from their own work and cry about it.

You're such a hack...

Rep. Mike Castle (R.-Del.), who co-sponsored Rep. DeGette?s bill, similarly stated this week that Dickey-Wicker should be revisited.

"Certainly, the Dickey-Wicker amendment . . . is something we need to look at," Castle told Congressional Quarterly Today on Monday. "That was passed in 1996, before we realized the full potential of embryonic stem cell research. Some researchers are telling us now that that needs to be reversed."

Is Slick going to apologize for 'holding back science' as you call it for 5 years?

It was 13 years ago.

 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: winnar111
Is Slick going to apologize for 'holding back science' as you call it for 5 years?

It was 13 years ago.

I'll never understand the reason behind defending the 'rights' of embryos that were likely to end up in the trash bin with the rest of the medical waste. This bill is long overdue. It's a shame we can't get back the 13 years of research that was lost.

 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Genx87
That is one guys opinion and I never made the claim it was as easy as adult stem cell. My point which you keep missing or deliberately skipping over is nothing was stopping the private sector from working on embryoic stem cells. Also other govts could as well provided they didnt have the same laws enacted.

There are significantly more researchers in academia than in the private sector, especially when it comes to basic research. Private funds can fund the research at some universities, but with the ban in place, you couldn't use any equipment that was funded wholey or in part by Federal grants, thus providing an additional barrier to research, as new equipment would need to be purchased with private funds in order to do this research in the first place.

The thing is, the ban wasn't based on science, just on ideology. We're not putting additional money into research now that the ban is lifted, merely allowing existing research funds to move into embryonic stem cell research and opening the door for more researchers to enter the field, which can only lead to more discoveries.

EXACTLY!

Labs that wanted to perform research on embryonic stem cells and already had suitable equipment were not allowed to use that equipment for the research if they had received even a dollar in federal funding to help buy that equipment, thus forcing them to buy a second set of equipment just for the stem cell research. This made it needlessly expensive and wasteful to perform the research. It was basically like attaching an extra million dollar (or more) price tag on any lab that wanted to perform the research. Now, finally, that ban is lifted, so federally-funded equipment may be used for this research.