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Sony Says "No Pr0n On Blu-Ray"

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Wow, thanks for the news! Thank god I didn't buy a PS3 because the only reason I would have bought it for was to watch PRON.

No pron = you lose to HD DVD.
 
Originally posted by: Number1Yes I did notice but I concluded that people would not quote from Tom because of fanboyism. After all Tom is a competitor to this site. I may be wrong. I do read their site occasionally.

who cares if he is a competitor?

thats not why. but a few years ago it looked ot most (pretty damn obvious to most) that he was giving positive reviews to his sponsors. Even when the items sucked. then started calling people names and threatening lawsuits.

in short he blew any credibility he had. he was very popular and many people linked to him. Now? he is nothing but a has been. and anytime someone uses him as the sole link the information is very much in doubt.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: aidanjm
pr0n built the internet, right? or at least, funded it's development into a commercial space.

No. Have you ever seen porn ads on any reputable website?

selling advertising space is a quite recent way of making revenue (on the internet). cast your mind back to before google came on the scene.

I've been using the Interent since about 1994. I remember a time when there were no ads on the Internet. There also wasn't a whole ton of content like there is today. I watched the Internet explode - it exploded with ads, and it exploded with content. The explosion in ads paid for the explosion in content.

why do you think so many men decided to pay to get online in the first place? unfettered access to pornogrpahy was a key motivation. it was pornography that got the internet up and running from a commercial perspective. this was before notions of "content" and ads. even more recently, pornography is a driving force in shaping the internet:

"Online pornography, a $2.5 billion business and growing rapidly, pioneered such now-commonplace practices as streaming video, trading files and making online purchases. By comparison, sales of music downloads totaled $1.1 billion last year."

interesting article on the interdependent relationship of porn and tech

Originally posted by: mugs
No, advertising is not a recent way of making revenue, and citing Google just makes you look clueless. Google's text-based ads may be a relatively recent trend, but banner ads existed long before Google ever did.

you are the one who appears "clueless" with your focus on content + ads. before content + ads there needed to be a critical mass of people with a modem plus a dial up internet account. where did those people come from, why were they inspired to pay for it? Unfettered access to porn images was one important factor.

Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: aidanjm
and yes, I have seen porn ads or ads for porn sites on reputable web sites, particularly gay news web sites.

Let me know when you see them on cnn.com.


the gay community tends to be less hypocritical about sex than the heterosexual community. hence the lack of outrage at seeing a gay-oriented new site funded through porn ads. Also, gay sites tend to be smaller, due to the smaller size of the gay community. Hence ways of raising revenue are more limited. So porn is more likely to be harnessed as a way of generating income. Gay sites are more similar to the early internet, & closer to the internet's early roots, in that sense, than the more mainstream or heterosexually oriented internet.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: mugs
OK, I'm tired of hearing this nonsense about porn deciding the winner of Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD.

Plug your ears? Porn is a $10-$14 billion industry. If I was inclined, I'd rather rent a DVD for a few bucks than sit for hours on my computer to get the same amount of ummm.. footage.

Guys buy pr0n + guys buy most electronics = HD-DVD teh WINNAR!

mugs is a mug. 😉 honest, open-minded people here will acknowledge the historical relationship between the success of new technologies (like vhs, video cameras, etc.) and pr0n. if history is any guide whatsoever, we can predict that availability of pr0n will be one of the important factors driving hd-dvd to success.

 
Originally posted by: mugs
OK, I'm tired of hearing this nonsense about porn deciding the winner of Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD. Not going to happen. It may have helped VHS, but VHS didn't have competition from Internet porn. Who pays for porn nowadays anyway? VHS and Betamax were also fighting to be the FIRST home video format, not the fourth generation. DVD is still alive and well, and frankly it's more than sufficient for porn.

Early adopters will decide which format wins. I think early adopters care more about real movies that can really take advantage of HD resolutions than about porn.
Sorry bub, but there's billions of dollars that prove that plenty of people pay for porn, not everyone is an internet nerd. The fact is that porn is a huuuuge part of the dvd industry, and my guess is that it will have an impact on the success of these formats. Another blunder in a long line of blunders from Sony.
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
From Tom Hardware:

Tom's Hardware? Speaking of sources with no credibility...[/quote]

Joone from Digital Playground said the same thing about costs in this article that was discussed in this thread a couple days ago. Yeah, he also mentions concerns with Sony possibly inhibiting porn titles on Blu-ray, but I'd bet that cost is the overriding factor for these companies. Especially the gonzo web sites like Bangbros as mentioned in the Tom's story, who later dump scenes from the website onto optical disc for retail sale. Vivid may be going off into Blu-ray-ville, but there are way too many low budget companies that won't. If the production costs are lower like I keep reading, it only makes sense to me that mainstream movie companies would ultimately make the same choice.

As far as the VHS/Beta war goes, I think porn gets too much credit for deciding the format winner. I don't doubt that it helped popularize VCR's, but my memory is that Betamax machines were expensive as hell and VHS trumped them on price.
 
This is GREAT news if true. I'd love to see Sony crash and burn just because of sh!t like this. Sony is dictating what content can go on their media? Fvck them! But this is definitely not out of character for Sony.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: mugs
OK, I'm tired of hearing this nonsense about porn deciding the winner of Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD.

Plug your ears? Porn is a $10-$14 billion industry. If I was inclined, I'd rather rent a DVD for a few bucks than sit for hours on my computer to get the same amount of ummm.. footage.

Guys buy pr0n + guys buy most electronics = HD-DVD teh WINNAR!

mugs is a mug. a moron who can't 'handle' reality.

honest, open-minded people here will acknowledge the historical relationship between the success of new technologies (like vhs, video cameras, etc.) and pr0n. if history is any guide whatsoever, we can predict that availability of pr0n will be one of the important factors driving hd-dvd to success.

I explained very clearly why the present situation is not analagous to VHS vs Betamax.

As for your other post - I don't know what your basis is for saying porn is what motivated so many people to pay to get on the Internet, but I don't know a single person who would list it as one of their top 5 reasons.

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Sorry bub, but there's billions of dollars that prove that plenty of people pay for porn, not everyone is an internet nerd. The fact is that porn is a huuuuge part of the dvd industry, and my guess is that it will have an impact on the success of these formats. Another blunder in a long line of blunders from Sony.

Man, I make one tongue in cheek comment and everyone ignores the rest of my post. :roll:
 
Porn was definitely the reason I got on the internet back in 1991 using dialup to get on the Porn BBS. I even paid $300 for a lifetime membership to a porn BBS.

That's right, I LOVE MY PORN!
 
Originally posted by: bennylong
Porn was definitely the reason I got on the internet back in 1991 using dialup to get on the Porn BBS. I even paid $300 for a lifetime membership to a porn BBS.

That's right, I LOVE MY PORN!

This does not surprise me.
 
Originally posted by: bennylong
Wow, thanks for the news! Thank god I didn't buy a PS3 because the only reason I would have bought it for was to watch PRON.

No pron = you lose to HD DVD.

I thought you gave up your porn.
 
no porn no buy

and plenty of porn has been high def for some time now..you know..jpgs😛 not exactly disgusting pics really
 
Originally posted by: mugs
OK, I'm tired of hearing this nonsense about porn deciding the winner of Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD. Not going to happen. It may have helped VHS, but VHS didn't have competition from Internet porn. Who pays for porn nowadays anyway? VHS and Betamax were also fighting to be the FIRST home video format, not the fourth generation. DVD is still alive and well, and frankly it's more than sufficient for porn.

Early adopters will decide which format wins. I think early adopters care more about real movies that can really take advantage of HD resolutions than about porn.

I completely agree.

Remember that before home video, the only place to watch porn was at some seedy theater. For obvious reasons, home video revolutionized the pornography industry, and the rapid growth in porn sales helped end the format war between VHS and Betamax.

You cannot compare the HD format battle to that situation. Pornography is an enormous industry, but digital distribution is the key for them now. I don't think the porn industry's selection of one format over the other will have a major effect of which ultimately wins out.

It would also be nice to have one rational discussion about HD-DVD vs. BluRay without it turning into a flamefest against Sony.
 
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