I get the feeling that he's hoping the theives know what an airbag wire looks like. If they don't, theyre just going to go through slashing everything and getting shot in the side with it. In both my Camry and my brother's BMW, they must route that wire differently because I never saw it when I was working on the headunits.
If they want your stereo, they are going to get it.
Your son is actually pretty lucky, with most stereo thefts the thieves will work real fast and fuxor up the entire dash area trying to get it out.
As for hiding the wires, they will just cut the wires off the back of the stereo, it doesn't matter what they look like - they are coming out of the stereo.
Your son is actually pretty lucky, with most stereo thefts the thieves will work real fast and fuxor up the entire dash area trying to get it out.
As for hiding the wires, they will just cut the wires off the back of the stereo, it doesn't matter what they look like - they are coming out of the stereo.
I agree - in defense of the OP, there's nothing wrong with a "boat", especially for a new driver who got it as a gift. In fact I drive one myself and I love it (I'm 19 btw).
<----1992 Pontiac Bonneville w000000t!
Another vote for the the pioneer mp3 headunit.
On a sidenote, good choice in picking the 95 GM for your kid. That car is rock solid and IIRC has a 5 star insurance crash rating. For a ton of reasons I know that 4.6 liter and 4R70W tranny pretty well. For that model year, you probably would need to do a EGR passage cleaning (will clog) in the throttle body/top intake manifold and replace the 1/2 shift accumulator piston(a $10 part from the FOrd dealer and 10 minutes to replace) in the tranny with an updated model as the 1/2 accumulator will fail. (lucky for gm/tc/cv owners that this chassis was fielded in fleet service and all the kinks have been reported/with solutions many years ago and parts are plentiful and cheap).
for further info do a search on www.crownvic.net
On a sidenote, good choice in picking the 95 GM for your kid. That car is rock solid and IIRC has a 5 star insurance crash rating. For a ton of reasons I know that 4.6 liter and 4R70W tranny pretty well. For that model year, you probably would need to do a EGR passage cleaning (will clog) in the throttle body/top intake manifold and replace the 1/2 shift accumulator piston(a $10 part from the FOrd dealer and 10 minutes to replace) in the tranny with an updated model as the 1/2 accumulator will fail. (lucky for gm/tc/cv owners that this chassis was fielded in fleet service and all the kinks have been reported/with solutions many years ago and parts are plentiful and cheap).
for further info do a search on www.crownvic.net
Originally posted by: Ornery
Yeah, well you buy your kid whatever the F you want. Until then, find another thread to spew your drivel about what's kewl.
Stop being a bitter old man. He didn't tell you what to get your kid. You already bought your kid already a car so nothing he says should get you irritated.
I THINK your kid shoulda bought his own car and his own head unit, and he should be paying for the replacement now. That's what I think, and I'm a kid.
I got a FAR Better Clarion mp3 headunit than any of those ones you listed and i paid 150 shipped brand new. I am young and crafty and I was resourceful.
Until you stop being a bitter old man I won't tell you who to call to get one for the same price.
Oh and - crown vics are boats. I'd prefer my car to be enjoyable to drive, thank you. Go german or go home
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Yeah it's not as if the thieves are going to believe you chose to have the 'radio delete' option
Best case they take it as also all flipfaces are at least decent.
Same thing with the Eclipses....they are going to figure out it has ESN later on and if the one CD's in the car or ones they have they will just pitch it (also I am positive there is some illegal method of bypassing it even if you have to R&R the chip).
Meanwhile you have 1 broken window or more, perhaps a torn seat, usually a pryed out dash and cut harness, etc and hopefully it doesn't rain that night.
A removable face isn't much better don't get me wrong....however they know going into it it could be a cheapo deck to an highend one and it's a gamble.
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yeah the 'yellow' tape trick is more handy for the alarm, for the headunit they either cut it on the car side of the harness (if they are smart) or simple unplug the harness. Thieves usually do not want the airbags going off and often want to steal them too.
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Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: Ornery
Yeah, well you buy your kid whatever the F you want. Until then, find another thread to spew your drivel about what's kewl.
Stop being a bitter old man. He didn't tell you what to get your kid. You already bought your kid already a car so nothing he says should get you irritated.
I THINK your kid shoulda bought his own car and his own head unit, and he should be paying for the replacement now. That's what I think, and I'm a kid.
I got a FAR Better Clarion mp3 headunit than any of those ones you listed and i paid 150 shipped brand new. I am young and crafty and I was resourceful.
Until you stop being a bitter old man I won't tell you who to call to get one for the same price.
Oh and - crown vics are boats. I'd prefer my car to be enjoyable to drive, thank you. Go german or go home
I highly agree with all of that except the german part.
The kid SHOULD have bought his own damn car and his own damn headunit.
The being said; sucks for the kid w/ the grand marquis; lol
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The thing would have probably been taken anyway. This way they save themselves new locks and/or windows.Originally posted by: slick230
Exactly. A thief broke into a few cars on my old cul-de-sac (including mine) one night. He crobarred (sp?) all the car doors open and stole stuff inside. He took my radar detector. The only car that wasn't damaged was mine because I left it unlocked.
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Yeah and the Paris Hilton's and other family of the rich and famous should go out and make her own money too right?
These are words spoken by jealous people...but I am sure we will now here stories how daddy brought home a Porsche GT3 with a red ribbon on it, yet they said "I am sorry father, I cannot accept this...I have the $3,000 I saved from the last 4 summers and want to buy that Yugo Cabriolet in the paper."
Around here the 'big' boat cars are popular cruisers, not my thing but other's seem to like them. Perhaps they have a lot of friends and they like to drive.
My father paid around $45k all in all for my first car, gas and insurance as well which were about $500 per month...then I started covering things myself as I got older and jobs and stuff, when it started feeling ackward having my spending habits disclosed (via the CC bills he paid). He still covers dinner whenever we all get together and even trying to pick up the tip get's him upset. They still get upset when my brother and I treat them to gifts or vacations...but just because my father makes alot more than I do doesn't mean I can't afford to treat him to things. In return as they get older I find myself doing more for them...it's part of life, yet there are many 'kids' today that just abandon their parents when they hit old age and start becoming a 'cost'. However, no matter how little your parents did for you, those 18 or so years cost them plenty in sacrifice and finances.
There is one thing should a kid be spoiled and it's another when the kid's parents can 'treat' them to things. About 90% of Palm Beach is money from family and nothing else. Should all these people just donate it all and 'do their own thing'?
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You know what alk?? The little spoiled brat should never be offered that GT3 in the first place, so the question of whether or not he'd turn it down is irrelevant.
It's all about learning what a dollar is worth.
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I know what a dollar is worth and I never had to really work if I didn't want to. I didn't get a Porsche although my friend had a new 930 Turbo and a used 328 ferrari, I had a car worth less than half what those were but it wasn't a big deal, it wasn't even thought about...I would say the average car in my circle of friends was $25-40k in 1988/89 dollars...some had total beaters as well. However I choose to work both at my dad's bank during summers and work days in junior college, plus deliver food at night and saved it all other than going to clubs with my food delivery money. I would go to clubs with others that just had credit cards from their parents and blow $300 in a night easy. After I left home I stopped accepting money from my parents whenever I could....at times it would have been easier to just take it, but I don't think it's right.
To a kid getting a Porsche, he may want the Lamborghini or perhaps a Bentley Turbo R or Aston Martin Vanquish. He is afforded such a car because that is considered a suitable car for him by his parents (although it's more than likely going to be some new BMW or Mercedes) and his family's position. You really can't have an oil leaker pulling up into a $50k driveway and you can't expect a 16 year old to be able to afford an affluent lifestyle, but you can expect he will align himself accordingly. Fact is most of the time people continue in the same financial boat their family is in. Most of the very rich got that way building it through generations or just being lucky.
It's hard for a poorer kid to see a rich kid with a shiny new sports car even his parents can't afford, but that's the way life is. Later in life that poorer kid may have to work for the richer one as well...they both had equal educations, however the rich kid's family owns the company. That's the way it goes.
Now if you get some pr1ck in a Porsche in your high school or college class saying 'why would anyone buy a $5,000 car or why would someone finance a $25,000 car....just write a check', then that is time for a smackdown/humbling party.
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The thing would have probably been taken anyway. This way they save themselves new locks and/or windows.Originally posted by: slick230
i doubt anyone would bother to break into a car for an aiwa. but if it's unlocked, it's basically up for grabs.
the sad thing is i see cars in my school parking lots with the windows down and stuff on the seats. the only thing missing is a giant sign that says "free stuff."
How many of you bother to remove your faceplates? If you were beer, would the faceplate have been removed, while parked in the driveway? Where do you put it, when you do remove it? Is the glovebox, under the seat, or in the trunk good enough? Is the unit worth stealing without the faceplate?
Oh, and what gives you pissants the idea that I care what you think? Don't remember asking for your worthless opinions on raising kids in the first place.
Oh, and what gives you pissants the idea that I care what you think? Don't remember asking for your worthless opinions on raising kids in the first place.
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I remove mine and bring it inside at night at home where I place my keys...other times unless I am parking in a secluded / risky place I leave it. Usually my date would be more concerned about stuffing it into her purse than I was about it. It may not save my deck from getting jacked but it makes it one step harder for the thieves. Also you need to have the serial numbers recorded somewhere....so many get their decks or other eq stolen and can only identify the model number. Model numbers don't really help a recovery unless production can be measured in the triple digits perhaps.
Of course there is the price of the deck vs the work you'd want to do for it. I look at decks around $400+....those that are in demand for theft. A $150-200 deck is going to get the inexperienced that may break in to take it and probably also do the most damage in a 'once in a lifetime' theft. No matter where your deck is or even if it's factory will save you from this kind of crime. Just kids roaming a neighborhood. I don't think there are any real 'pros' in the headunit trade, but the more experienced know to not waste the same amount of 'crime time' on cheapy decks or even doing a one-off steal....most of the time around here it's a whole block or road that gets hit...about 20-30 cars in a night...bad part is these things never make it to the paper or news, except maybe a small section of the local community paper.
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I have a real cheap unit in our van, which has a removable face plate. We've never taken it off in the several years we've owned it. Too much of a hassle, I guess. I just wondered if people routinely threw them in the glove box, storage bin, or trunk? Maybe even in the visor, under the seat, or dash?
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