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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Farang
Fair. Life isn't fair.

Sorry for your loss, I agree with everyone else that the drunk guy did nothing wrong.

The irony is that life would have been "fare" if the guy had called a cab...

*ducks the inevitable thrown rotting cabbage*

Funny.
 

darkxshade

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It wasn't the drunk guy who caused his friends death, his friends caused it themselves. Just be glad your sister was not in that car.
 

Dacalo

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It's fair dude not fare.

I can't fault the drunk guy; he was being responsible. It was the two guys who went to pick him are at fault for 1) driving recklessly and 2) not wearing seatbelt.

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Farang
Fair. Life isn't fair.

Sorry for your loss, I agree with everyone else that the drunk guy did nothing wrong.

This is as "fair" as life gets.

The responsible (or at least, not horribly irresponsible) person lives, the others don't. Yes, the penalty was out of proportion to the crime...but even the legal system doesn't usually get that right. Life certainly doesn't.
 

hypn0tik

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The drunk guy did the correct thing by calling his sober friends to pick him up. Being good friends, they naturally agreed. However, it was their fault for not wearing seat belts. Drunk guy is not at all to blame for this.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

If he wasn't driving your way off base, sorry. It's the drivers fault and the passengers fault for no seat belts. The drunk was the most responsible person in your story.

Agreed 100 percent. It's terrible that they lost their lives, but don't fault the drunk guy for doing exactly what he should have done.
 

EGGO

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I almost thought this was about the girl and the Porsche for a second with the title.

If I'm getting the story clear, then the drunk guy could've just have been any clear-headed guy who needed a ride and asked his buddies for help. The driver and front passenger did the stupid stuff and paid the consequences. Sucks.
 

BHeemsoth

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There is nothing wrong with getting drunk responsibly.

Yes, this story is tragic, but the drunk is not at fault. Under different circumstances he would be commended for being so responsible. Stop putting down people for drinking. As other have said, if anything it is the fault of the driver for and the passenger for not wearing their seatbelt and paying proper attention to road conditions.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Casawi
Originally posted by: glutenberg
This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.
Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.
Or if he didn't call for a ride, he could have driven drunk and killed a family of five in a fiery accident. You can't predict the future.
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched(in the back seat), and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

Why the hell are you so angry at the drunk guy? He wasn't driving, and he called for a designated driver.

Initial reaction.
 

Howard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: hypn0tik
The drunk guy did the correct thing by calling his sober friends to pick him up. Being good friends, they naturally agreed. However, it was their fault for not wearing seat belts. Drunk guy is not at all to blame for this.

 

Casawi

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Well thanks guys, I feel better about it. I don't know the drunk guy, otherwise I would of felt really bad for him too. I mean they are dead, least I can do is take their side...makes their friends and families feel better about it for a little while.
 

akshatp

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I have to agree with most of the other's in this thread. The drunk guy is the most responsible person in this story. Every tragedy happens due to some kind of circumstances.

Imagine leaving your home one minute late because your wife had to run back in to get a hairbrush, and then missing your scheduled flight because of that one minute and then boarding another flight that crashes. Is that your wife's fault? What if it was the flight you missed that had crashed?

Point is, all things happen for a reason. Furthermore, the drunk guy was not the reason your sisters friends got into a fatal accident. He may have been the reason they were on the road at THAT time, but certainly not a cause of the accident.
 

akshatp

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Originally posted by: Casawi
Well thanks guys, I feel better about it. I don't know the drunk guy, otherwise I would of felt really bad for him too. I mean they are dead, least I can do is take their side...makes their friends and families feel better about it for a little while.

Take their side? What do you mean take their side? This isnt an argument or a fight. Its a tragedy. What you can do is be there for the families of the deceased and not bring up the fact that the friend they were picking up is to blame, because he isnt.

How would it make them feel better to blame him or to have your support in blaming him? I mean, their kids are dead regardless, so does it hurt less if someone else is "at fault?"

Also, OP how old are you? Im just curious.

(and its "would have" not "would of")
 

meltdown75

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i was at a party once and witnessed a drunk driving accident. standing out on the front porch smoking a cigarette, i watched as a carload of kids pulled out of a packed driveway onto a highway lined with vehicles on each side (party traffic) and just barely tapped a vehicle passing by doing about 90 kms... passing vehicle spun out and was in the ditch in front of the house within 2 seconds. i ran with my sock feet across that lawn and was the first one to the car, and it was two 19-or so girls... all i remember is the radio being cranked and gently reaching in to turn it down, then hearing the girl in the driver's seat saying, "my back... ahhh" and bawling... and then a rush of people around me and just yelling for someone to call 911
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: Casawi
Well thanks guys, I feel better about it. I don't know the drunk guy, otherwise I would of felt really bad for him too. I mean they are dead, least I can do is take their side...makes their friends and families feel better about it for a little while.

Take their side? What do you mean take their side? This isnt an argument or a fight. Its a tragedy. What you can do is be there for the families of the deceased and not bring up the fact that the friend they were picking up is to blame, because he isnt.

How would it make them feel better to blame him or to have your support in blaming him? I mean, their kids are dead regardless, so does it hurt less if someone else is "at fault?"

Also, OP how old are you? Im just curious.

(and its "would have" not "would of")

NO one is blaming anyone. It is just something people usually say if the conversation comes up with friends and relatives to the losses, considering drink is not well accepted by the majority over there.
 

akshatp

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Originally posted by: Casawi
Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: Casawi
Well thanks guys, I feel better about it. I don't know the drunk guy, otherwise I would of felt really bad for him too. I mean they are dead, least I can do is take their side...makes their friends and families feel better about it for a little while.

Take their side? What do you mean take their side? This isnt an argument or a fight. Its a tragedy. What you can do is be there for the families of the deceased and not bring up the fact that the friend they were picking up is to blame, because he isnt.

How would it make them feel better to blame him or to have your support in blaming him? I mean, their kids are dead regardless, so does it hurt less if someone else is "at fault?"

Also, OP how old are you? Im just curious.

(and its "would have" not "would of")

NO one is blaming anyone. It is just something people usually say if the conversation comes up with friends and relatives to the losses, considering drink is not well accepted by the majority over there.

Over where?
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Casawi
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched, and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

Sorry about your friends but "friend who left drunk at bar" could've been easily been replaced with "friend who's car got wrecked" or something similar. Don't blame the guy for asking friends for help.

My feelings exactly... sorry for your loses... but cut the guy a break... He did the responsible thing and asked for a ride... accidents happen and yes... he lives with that his whole life...

I bit too judgmental

I feel bad for the guy...
 

buck

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I am very sorry for the people that passed.


That said, please *think* before you post OP. You are an idiot for blaming the drunk guy who did the right thing. I sure as hell hope a dumbass like you doesn't convince even one person to not do what the drunk guy did. I am also curious to hear how old you are.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched(in the back seat), and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

Why the hell are you so angry at the drunk guy? He wasn't driving, and he called for a designated driver.
Agreed, he is no more at fault than a little kid calling a parent for a pickup from a friend's house, and the parent gets killed in an accident.

Still,
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It's a tragic shame that people can get so impatient when driving. Slow down, and you're more likely to actually arrive at your destination.
 

James Bond

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Uhhh, so the drunk guy acts responsible then it is his fault?

I feel bad, I honestly do... but you need to take another look at what happened here.
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: buck
I am very sorry for the people that passed.


That said, please *think* before you post OP. You are an idiot for blaming the drunk guy who did the right thing. I sure as hell hope a dumbass like you doesn't convince even one person to not do what the drunk guy did. I am also curious to hear how old you are.

Read the thread before you make such remarks.
 

Casawi

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Uhhh, so the drunk guy acts responsible then it is his fault?

I feel bad, I honestly do... but you need to take another look at what happened here.

Also, read the thread.