Sometime life isn't fair.

[Casawi]

Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched(in the back seat), and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

 

[Canai]

That's horrible. Another sad case of no seatbelts

Was the drunky wearing his belt / how was he untouched?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched, and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.

 

[Beattie]

Wait, 2 sober people went to pick up a drunk guy and they let the drunk guy drive?

 

[Casawi]

Originally posted by: Canai
That's horrible. Another sad case of no seatbelts

Was the drunky wearing his belt / how was he untouched?

He was in the back seat. They need to reinforced that law in other countries as well.

 

[Casawi]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched, and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

 

[bsobel]

No offense, but your story is hard to follow. What I got was:

a) X was two drunk to drive.
b) X calls Y and Z to pick him up
c) X gets into a crash and kills Y and Z?????

If he was too drunk to drive, why was he driving Y or Z's car? Or are you saying the driver wasn't drunk but the construction caused the accident? If so its horrible but an accident, not the drunk (X's) fault...

Very confused,
Bill

 

[lyssword]

why the fuck they didn't wear seatbelt? I always put on seatbelt

 

[bsobel]

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

If he wasn't driving your way off base, sorry. It's the drivers fault and the passengers fault for no seat belts. The drunk was the most responsible person in your story.

 

[Casawi]

Originally posted by: bsobel
No offense, but your story is hard to follow. What I got was:

a) X was two drunk to drive.
b) X calls Y and Z to pick him up
c) Y and Z gets into a crash and kills Y and Z. X untouched

If he was too drunk to drive, why was he driving Y or Z's car? Or are you saying the driver wasn't drunk but the construction caused the accident? If so its horrible but an accident, not the drunk (X's) fault...

Very confused,
Bill

Sorry I didn't read what I typed.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Casawi

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched, and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

Sorry about your friends but "friend who left drunk at bar" could've been easily been replaced with "friend who's car got wrecked" or something similar. Don't blame the guy for asking friends for help.

 

[compuwiz1]

Man, what a tragedy. Sad that they had to be in the wrong situation at the wrong time, trying to do the right thing.

 

[Itchrelief]

I think it is a tragedy and the guy will probably feel like shit for the rest of his life, but sometimes bad things happen when you're trying to do the right thing. The drunk at least wasn't trying to drive himself. The sober guys went with the "personal responsibility" angle of not wearing seatbelts, and they get to live with the consequences.

I can beat myself over the head all day if the pizza delivery guy runs over a dog while delivering to my house, but that isn't the same as if I had run over the dog myself.

 

[Casawi]

I think they were driving too fast too, plus no seat belt. No doubt it was stupid; cost them their lives.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Casawi

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched, and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

This story is backwards. The drunk guy, acting responsibly, asked his friends for a ride home so that he wouldn't be on the road while drunk but is receiving the blame for the friends driving too fast and not wearing a seatbelt? Although tragic, I don't see how any of the blame could be placed on the drunk friend.

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

Yeah, but then he could have gone out and driven.

 

[bsobel]

Yeah I agree. But you can always say they would of never been on the road if he didn't call.

Or if they told him to take a taxi, or if they stopped for gas, or.... Point being you can second guess every decision of every person in the story up to the accident. Your right the drunk will probably feel responsible and horrible, but he was trying to do th right thing. The driver (speeding from your story) and the passenger (no seatbelt) learned a horrible lesson the worst possible way. Second guessing everything now (IMHO) is pointless.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Can't fault the drunk guy. Everyone loves to have a good time. The two other dudes didn't wear seatbelts, and the driver was driving too fast. Wear you goddamn seatbelts. Also, with gas prices at where they are now, who the hell wants to drive fast anyways.

/cynical.

bleh... words or any self-justification can't remove the fact that two dudes died.

 

[Safeway]

I can't get over the misspelling of fare. I'm sorry.

 

[Farang]

Fair. Life isn't fair.

Sorry for your loss, I agree with everyone else that the drunk guy did nothing wrong.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Casawi
Two of my sisters friends from college died in a car accident this past weekend. Both of them were seniors with job offers. Not that it matters now, but it shows they could of had a life until their drunk friend called them for a ride.
Their friend was too drunk to drive and calls them at 3 am to pick him up from the bar. they left and picked him up. On the way back there was construction, without much alert, he tried to dodge a sign, went into the ditch, hit a tree, no seat belt, front passengers died. the drunk bastard was untouched(in the back seat), and too fucking drunk to do anything.
I think they were going fast enough to not be able to dodge a sign safely, but still.
It is still sad, I personally did not know the guy. I have heard a lot about him... anyways.

I felt like sharing this with you. I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

God bless them.

Why the hell are you so angry at the drunk guy? He wasn't driving, and he called for a designated driver.

 

[ranmaniac]

Not wearing your seatbelt while excessively speeding at night is a formula for disaster.

 

[FoBoT]

wear seatbelts
don't speed

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Casawi
I don't how the drunk guy could live the rest of his life knowing he had something to do with his 2 friends deaths.

He didn't. If anything, he should be angry that the driver was putting his life in danger. (Not that it would be reasonable, but more reasonable than feeling guilty.)

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Safeway
I can't get over the misspelling of fare. I'm sorry.

lol. I had something great to post about fair vs fare, but I felt too bad doing it in a thread about someone dying.

Anyway.. tragic loss, but it really wasn't the drunk dudes fault. Think of it this way: you ask a friend to drive you to the airport and he gets a speeding ticket on the way. Are you responsible for paying the ticket since they were doing you a favor?

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Farang
Fair. Life isn't fair.

Sorry for your loss, I agree with everyone else that the drunk guy did nothing wrong.

The irony is that life would have been "fare" if the guy had called a cab...

*ducks the inevitable thrown rotting cabbage*