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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sandorski

Ugh. For starters, Tax Payers have likely spent nothing to make this possible. The Building Permit probably mandates a certain amount of Affordable Units. So the Developer designs the Building with those Units in mind.

You keep harping on Minimum Wage. Even Wages higher than the Minimum Wage are insufficient "Living Wages" in Cities.

You pretty much dodged his entire point. All housing/apartment units have a certain value, and those that can afford those units should be able to buy them. If a unit in a city is worth $100k, It makes no sense to deny the sale to someone with the money only to give it away to someone who does not have the money. Things of value should be bought.

I dodged nothing. There are good reasons for these types of Programs. Reasons you seem unable to grasp.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sandorski

Ugh. For starters, Tax Payers have likely spent nothing to make this possible. The Building Permit probably mandates a certain amount of Affordable Units. So the Developer designs the Building with those Units in mind.

You keep harping on Minimum Wage. Even Wages higher than the Minimum Wage are insufficient "Living Wages" in Cities.

You pretty much dodged his entire point. All housing/apartment units have a certain value, and those that can afford those units should be able to buy them. If a unit in a city is worth $100k, It makes no sense to deny the sale to someone with the money only to give it away to someone who does not have the money. Things of value should be bought.

I dodged nothing. There are good reasons for these types of Programs. Reasons you seem unable to grasp.

I can't imagine a scenario where buying votes and wasting taxpayer money are considered good reasons for anything....
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,784
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126
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sandorski

Ugh. For starters, Tax Payers have likely spent nothing to make this possible. The Building Permit probably mandates a certain amount of Affordable Units. So the Developer designs the Building with those Units in mind.

You keep harping on Minimum Wage. Even Wages higher than the Minimum Wage are insufficient "Living Wages" in Cities.

You pretty much dodged his entire point. All housing/apartment units have a certain value, and those that can afford those units should be able to buy them. If a unit in a city is worth $100k, It makes no sense to deny the sale to someone with the money only to give it away to someone who does not have the money. Things of value should be bought.

I dodged nothing. There are good reasons for these types of Programs. Reasons you seem unable to grasp.

I can't imagine a scenario where buying votes and wasting taxpayer money are considered good reasons for anything....

I agree, but that's another issue unrelated to this.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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651
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sandorski

Ugh. For starters, Tax Payers have likely spent nothing to make this possible. The Building Permit probably mandates a certain amount of Affordable Units. So the Developer designs the Building with those Units in mind.

You keep harping on Minimum Wage. Even Wages higher than the Minimum Wage are insufficient "Living Wages" in Cities.

You pretty much dodged his entire point. All housing/apartment units have a certain value, and those that can afford those units should be able to buy them. If a unit in a city is worth $100k, It makes no sense to deny the sale to someone with the money only to give it away to someone who does not have the money. Things of value should be bought.

I dodged nothing. There are good reasons for these types of Programs. Reasons you seem unable to grasp.

I can't imagine a scenario where buying votes and wasting taxpayer money are considered good reasons for anything....

:confused:

A developer can build more units and make more money if he's able to bypass certain zoning restrictions(ie. setback distances, height restrictions, etc) by making a % of the units affordable. Who's buying votes and wasting taxpayer money?
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JS80
Many cities strong arm and extort condo developers to make a certain % of the units for low income so they can hook up their family or constituents with under market housing. Santa Monica does this.

It's like section 8 for condos.

That's a rather cynical view. Cities require people to work certain Low Wage Jobs, without them the city can not function. That is why the Market is not relied on, as it Fails to meet the Needs in many cases.

How about paying better for the low wage jobs so people can afford to live in the city? It will give the workers the choice on what they want to spend their money on: a place to live close to where they work, or extra money if they live with an hour commute. This sort of configuration empowers the people to move the market instead of artificially constraining the market to meet the needs of the people.

Are you fucking 5 years old or something?
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS. It's hilarious really.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
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Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it. Everytime gf and I look at luxurious condos for fun, we ask the agent to show us the subsidized rooms just so we can drool at it and its ridiculously low price. It's just like the scenario in OP.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,784
6,343
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS. It's hilarious really.

I highly suspect that the $800 Condos are no where near as Luxurious as the other Suites. Gyms, Pools, and other Luxuries would certainly be included, but thatt's another thing entirely.
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D

Well, CC did ask me before who you were before. Enjoy your ban again. What stalking? You give yourself away too easy E equals MC2.

And please let me know where those affordable units are at the Ritz Carlton Residences...
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D

Well, CC did ask me before who you were before. Enjoy your ban again. What stalking? You give yourself away too easy E equals MC2.

And please let me know where those affordable units are at the Ritz Carlton Residences...

yawn. lifer pride right? rofl noob. who the hell is E?
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D

Well, CC did ask me before who you were before. Enjoy your ban again. What stalking? You give yourself away too easy E equals MC2.

And please let me know where those affordable units are at the Ritz Carlton Residences...

yawn. lifer pride right? rofl noob.

You're the wannabe project manager that's laid off.
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D

Well, CC did ask me before who you were before. Enjoy your ban again. What stalking? You give yourself away too easy E equals MC2.

And please let me know where those affordable units are at the Ritz Carlton Residences...

yawn. lifer pride right? rofl noob.

You're the wannabe project manager that's laid off.

Wow, you REALLY know a lot about me. It's almost scary. I am flattered and bit concerned. Who are you again? Yet, I have no idea who you are.

Severance package, taking a nice time off, money saved up... but hey, if it made you feel like you insulted me, then cheers.

What else? Please tell me more about how much you know me. It's like.. freaky and creepy at the same time. Ugh.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You're the wannabe project manager that's laid off.

Wow, you REALLY know a lot about me. It's almost scary. I am flattered and bit concerned. Who are you again? I have no idea who you are. ;)

Severance package, taking a nice time off, money saved up... but hey, if it made you feel like you insulted me, then cheers.

You're the one that got caught lying and then came up with some noob insult. Poor baby...
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
That is nothing new OP....

I live in Boston myself. I was at Stuff@Night promo party that showcased this beautiful brand new condo right off of the TD Garden.

Archstone Avenir: http://www.archstoneapartments...ston/Archstone_Avenir/

The rent for 1200sq is $3800 a month. ROFLMAOPIMP. You can also get government housing rate for $800 instead. WTF. If I was poor, I can live in that beautiful condo with private patio, roofdeck party access and top of the line gym for mere $800.

It's a govt rule. All condos have to reserve a certain % of rooms for subsidized living, NO MATTER how FUCKING LUXURIOUS.
It's hilarious really.

Link?

It's a general knowledge if you live in Boston and hunt for housing. A lifer like you should know how to google it.

B/c you're incorrect. And you'd be a lifer too if you weren't previously banned.

Aww, that shit's getting old. Now I remember who you are. Keep stalking people on this forum please. That avatar fits your shut-in personality perfectly.

:D

Well, CC did ask me before who you were before. Enjoy your ban again. What stalking? You give yourself away too easy E equals MC2.

And please let me know where those affordable units are at the Ritz Carlton Residences...

yawn. lifer pride right? rofl noob.

You're the wannabe project manager that's laid off.

Wow, you REALLY know a lot about me. It's almost scary. I am flattered and bit concerned. Who are you again? I have no idea who you are. ;)

Severance package, taking a nice time off, money saved up... but hey, if it made you feel like you insulted me, then cheers.

You're the one that got caught lying and then came up with some noob insult. Poor baby...

Weak. I expected more. I'm done with you.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You're the one that got caught lying and then came up with some noob insult. Poor baby...

Weak. I expected more. I'm done with you.

So, what will be your new username? Talk about lives, you came back to a forum that already banned you.
 

Clair de Lune

Banned
Sep 24, 2008
762
1
0
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You're the one that got caught lying and then came up with some noob insult. Poor baby...

Weak. I expected more. I'm done with you.

So, what will be your new username? Talk about lives, you came back to a forum that already banned you.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Stop scaring people, take that bag off of your face, go see some sun. I'm concerned for you. So much energy devoted to me. It is bit flattering though.
 

Flammable

Platinum Member
Mar 3, 2007
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so...where is this condo exactly in Boston? :) is it the new place across from 7-11 at the theatre district?