Someone give me one solid reason why...

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: nick1985
troll/flamebait

this has been discussed a trillion times in a billlion posts

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: nick1985
troll/flamebait

No I'm serious. I bring up Iran and everyone ignores me. So I'm bringing it up here. Why is Iraq > Iran. Every reason anyone can think of for going to war with Iraq, Iran has done worse.

In a pure tactical sense, I might point out that you could look at a map and view the relationship of Iran and the places that we have a footprint in the middle east.

It aint rocket science, sparky. 😉

And you obviously aren't a Rocket Scientist!

And you obviously aren't getting enough!

Ah, I can never get enough!😉

Logging off to try and get what I can!

And if she refuses, just tell her that her mommy said it was OK! ahahahah get it? :roll:

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: nick1985
troll/flamebait

No I'm serious. I bring up Iran and everyone ignores me. So I'm bringing it up here. Why is Iraq > Iran. Every reason anyone can think of for going to war with Iraq, Iran has done worse.

In a pure tactical sense, I might point out that you could look at a map and view the relationship of Iran and the places that we have a footprint in the middle east.

It aint rocket science, sparky. 😉

And you obviously aren't a Rocket Scientist!

And you obviously aren't getting enough!

Ah, I can never get enough!😉

Logging off to try and get what I can!

See you in a couple of minutes. 😉

 

[brigden]

Fundamentally, the Neocons and the Christian Right honestly believe that they have the power to transform the Middle East to benefit Israel.

9/11 was the catalyst to that agenda.

Oil was a secondary benefit and not the sole reason to going to war. Removing Saddamn, their mistake, was a secondary benefit.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: nick1985
troll/flamebait

this has been discussed a trillion times in a billlion posts

Yes, but nobody has yet to even bring up one good reason why Iraq > Iran. All the reasons people stated before have never been compared to Iran. Once they are then their reasons don't make any sense. That is why people are staying out of this thread.

Iraq was the weaker country. That is not a reason I have heard from the administration.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: brigden
Fundamentally, the Neocons and the Christian Right honestly believe that they have the power to transform the Middle East to benefit Israel.

9/11 was the catalyst to that agenda.

Oil was a secondary benefit and not the sole reason to going to war. Removing Saddamn, their mistake, was a secondary benefit.

What motivation do Christians have for empowering Israel? 😕

I mean, in the Jewish or the Christian version of religion, what would the reward be for Christians, for this benefit to the Jews?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: nick1985
troll/flamebait

No I'm serious. I bring up Iran and everyone ignores me. So I'm bringing it up here. Why is Iraq > Iran. Every reason anyone can think of for going to war with Iraq, Iran has done worse.

In a pure tactical sense, I might point out that you could look at a map and view the relationship of Iran and the places that we have a footprint in the middle east.

It aint rocket science, sparky. 😉

And you obviously aren't a Rocket Scientist!

And you obviously aren't getting enough!

Ah, I can never get enough!😉

Logging off to try and get what I can!

See you in a couple of minutes. 😉

:laugh:

 

[Aimster]

well thank you all for giving me a ton of reasons. !

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Link?

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Link?

Link

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

What? You think I just make this sh!t up? 😉

 

[Gaard]

Hmmm, it never really occurred to me that a whole country can put a hit out on someone.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Link?

Link

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

What? You think I just make this sh!t up? 😉

Finally...someone admitted that we went to war because Bush wanted revenge...."He tried to kill my daddy"! :Q

 

[0marTheZealot]

oil.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Link?

Link

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

What? You think I just make this sh!t up? 😉

Not at all 🙂

Originally posted by: Engineer
Finally...someone admitted that we went to war because Bush wanted revenge...."He tried to kill my daddy"! :Q

How about a link to that quote? 😉

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Engineer
Finally...someone admitted that we went to war because Bush wanted revenge...."He tried to kill my daddy"! :Q

How about a link to that quote? 😉

Your wish is my command! 🙂

 

[b0mbrman]

Wow...you weren't kidding when you said "Finally" 😉

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Engineer
Finally...someone admitted that we went to war because Bush wanted revenge...."He tried to kill my daddy"! :Q

How about a link to that quote? 😉

Your wish is my command! 🙂

It would appear that you have some editing to do. 😉

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
"Finally" 😉

oct 2002

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Engineer
Finally...someone admitted that we went to war because Bush wanted revenge...."He tried to kill my daddy"! :Q

How about a link to that quote? 😉

Your wish is my command! 🙂

It would appear that you have some editing to do. 😉

"He tried to kill my daddy" = "The man who tried to kill my dad" :Q

Maybe I should not have used the quotes. eh? 😉

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
"Finally" 😉

oct 2002

Finally => I've been searching for Engineer's quote "He tried to kill my daddy" since I first heard it. What made it hard was that it wasn't verbatim....

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
"Finally" 😉

oct 2002

Finally => I've been searching for Engineer's quote "He tried to kill my daddy" since I first heard it. What made it hard was that it wasn't verbatim....

😱

Sorry...bad paraphrase...in ""'s. :laugh:

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
In all honesty, the only remotely defensable reason I have heard from a republican or neocon is this, "It was the right thing to do because the Iraqis are now going to be a free people governed by peacful deomcratic principles." But it is still a weak argument because who are we as americans to decide who gets to be freed and who doesn't. It can also be said that if the Iraqis wanted this they could have revolted and created such a government and nation themselves. As I recall, during Clinton's administration, the US was seriously funding groups in iraq who were intent on taking down saddam and instigating a revolt in order to acheive a government change. But, they really had a hard time finding anyone who wanted to do this. Perhaps this was because the Iraqis, while governed by what we perceive as a military dictator, looked at the nation and themselves and felt content the way they were. Honestly, I don't know why they did not revolt, and only an iraqi could tell you that.

Personally I see no reason why we should have or had the right to invade. But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Oh you have got to be kidding me! Like the bush's statement, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." justifies a war. Give me a f-ing break! Not that i don't care about former president's lives being endangered but when you become president you instantly have the biggest fattest bulls eye put on your back and it does not go away just because you are no longer in office. This is a risk anyone takes when they become president and the carry it with them to their grave. This is not a reason to goto war. So find another reason with more vertical strength than a wet piece of pasta to argue.

 

[gutharius]

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[gutharius]

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[Aimster]

Originally posted by: gutharius

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: gutharius
In all honesty, the only remotely defensable reason I have heard from a republican or neocon is this, "It was the right thing to do because the Iraqis are now going to be a free people governed by peacful deomcratic principles." But it is still a weak argument because who are we as americans to decide who gets to be freed and who doesn't. It can also be said that if the Iraqis wanted this they could have revolted and created such a government and nation themselves. As I recall, during Clinton's administration, the US was seriously funding groups in iraq who were intent on taking down saddam and instigating a revolt in order to acheive a government change. But, they really had a hard time finding anyone who wanted to do this. Perhaps this was because the Iraqis, while governed by what we perceive as a military dictator, looked at the nation and themselves and felt content the way they were. Honestly, I don't know why they did not revolt, and only an iraqi could tell you that.

Personally I see no reason why we should have or had the right to invade. But the Bush would say, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." as a reson to invade. Which is really a piss poor reason to send 1000+ americans, as well as countless innocent iraqi and non-iraqi citizens, and allied troops to their deaths.

Actually, one of the reasons that congress authorized the use of force against sadamm was that there was an assasination plot by Iraq against a former president of the united states.

Oh you have got to be kidding me! Like the bush's statement, "This is the man that tried to kill my dad." justifies a war. Give me a f-ing break! Not that i don't care about former president's lives being endangered but when you become president you instantly have the biggest fattest bulls eye put on your back and it does not go away just because you are no longer in office. This is a risk anyone takes when they become president and the carry it with them to their grave. This is not a reason to goto war. So find another reason with more vertical strength than a wet piece of pasta to argue.

Why did we go to war?