Somebody Picked the Wrong Girl

[Charles Kozierok]

Give me a break. Are you actually defending that piece of idiocy?

Guy parks right in front of the place he's going to break into. Then he knocks on the door? Why? Then, that not being good enough, he knocks on the door again! Then, for no apparent reason, he waits and waits before breaking in.

And then.. passes out? Really? I mean, why stop there? Maybe the attacker should have fallen to his knees, apologized profusely, and promised to go to the nearest church and become a monk?

I noticed that the layout of the apartment requires passing very close to the front door to get between the living room and bedroom. Here's how it most likely plays out in the real world:

1. Bad guy breaks down front door.
2. Bad stuff happens to girl because her gun is not with her, but rather locked in a safe under her bed in a different room she can't get to.

 

[olds]

48 to go

 

[Charles Kozierok]

48 to go

Why don't you try actually responding to what I said.

 

[olds]

Why don't you try actually responding to what I said.

I am still waiting for my 50 reasons.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I am still waiting for my 50 reasons.

What are you, 8 years old?

"I probably couldn't list them all" was a figure of speech. I think I listed enough ways that this scenario would never happen.

 

[olds]

What are you, 8 years old?

"I probably couldn't list them all" was a figure of speech. I think I listed enough ways that this scenario would never happen.

So you were actually lying to us.
Good to know. In the future, we can discount anything you say.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Okay then.

*Slaps self in head for trying to talk sense in OT.*

 

[ch33zw1z]

that was, actually, a very educational video. gun in a lockbox in a safe location with a combination, stand ~20 feet from the assailant, open stance, finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire, don't go trying to kill someone if you don't have to, call the authorities...

Did that safe have a fingerprint scanner for access?

 

[Jadow]

And a non gun owner dreams of what?

watching their children getting raped and murdered in front of them.

 

[Squisher]

Did that safe have a fingerprint scanner for access?

It's a four button touch pad. It has indents for your four fingers to settle into and you can program any up five key strokes using as many buttons as you want to allow it to open.

I do three key strokes, two particular buttons together, another button, then another button. Batteries last a couple years, but I swap them out yearly.

I have one under my coffee table in the mancave and another at the bottom of my nightstand.

 

[eits]

Did that safe have a fingerprint scanner for access?

that's what it looked like, but it could have been just a keypad combo and if the number was 13, it's pretty easy to do without looking.

 

[Brovane]

Give me a break. Are you actually defending that piece of idiocy?

Guy parks right in front of the place he's going to break into. Then he knocks on the door? Why? Then, that not being good enough, he knocks on the door again! Then, for no apparent reason, he waits and waits before breaking in.

And then.. passes out? Really? I mean, why stop there? Maybe the attacker should have fallen to his knees, apologized profusely, and promised to go to the nearest church and become a monk?

I noticed that the layout of the apartment requires passing very close to the front door to get between the living room and bedroom. Here's how it most likely plays out in the real world:

1. Bad guy breaks down front door.
2. Bad stuff happens to girl because her gun is not with her, but rather locked in a safe under her bed in a different room she can't get to.

It is just one plausible scenario. Realistically if the attacker was interested in Rape he would want her to open the door so he could over power and quickly close the door. A broken open door would have been more suspicious. I mean countless different scenarios are valid in this instance. Your scenario with the bad guy breaking down the door is perfectly valid, just like the scenario showed in the video. I mean doing the ding-dong ditch thing is a good way to try and get someone to open the door. How many times have we ourselves after getting ding donged ditched a couple of times flung open the door quickly the next time someone knocks?


The fainting thing was probably just a easy way to get out of showing her shoot the attacker which could be perceived as negative or could have made it difficult to show the commercial in certain areas. Instead a easy way out was for the attacker to faint and then he wakes up on a gurney, under arrest. Basically it was dramatic license to avoid a shooting scene. Not the first time or last time that this would be done in a video production.

 

[olds]

Jesus Fucking Christ people, it wasn't a documentary!

 

[rh71]

did her front door really only have a flimsy door handle lock like you'd find in a bathroom door? Umm deadbolt, on a metal or fiberglass door. Yes I know the doorjamb is the weak point.

 

[olds]

did her front door really only have a flimsy door handle lock like you'd find in a bathroom door? Umm deadbolt, on a metal or fiberglass door. Yes I know the doorjamb is the weak point.

3" drywall screws.

 

[momeNt]

In response to DCal being called a troll. He may be guilty of half-truths, but it is the truth that most gunowners do fantasize about killing someone, he left out the part of non-gunowners rather conveniently and trollishly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicidal_ideation

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I mean doing the ding-dong ditch thing is a good way to try and get someone to open the door. How many times have we ourselves after getting ding donged ditched a couple of times flung open the door quickly the next time someone knocks?

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't considered that. Is that really a common technique used? It just seemed like a fairly dumb move that they put into the ad to give her a chance to go get her gun.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

He may be guilty of half-truths, but it is the truth that most gunowners do fantasize about killing someone, he left out the part of non-gunowners rather conveniently and trollishly.

Considering the link you provided suggests that a majority of all people experience homocidal ideation, isn't it rather "half-truthy" to suggest that this being true of gun owners really means anything?

 

[Tom]

I think I'm buying a Glock!

You know things turned out badly for him, right ?

 

[Brovane]

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't considered that. Is that really a common technique used? It just seemed like a fairly dumb move that they put into the ad to give her a chance to go get her gun.

Actually it kind of seems like a reasonable move for someone trying to get into a house after you think about it. However I probably don't think we have FBI crime statistics showing the use of ding-dong ditch to get into a house. However it is always important to check the peep-hole before you open a door however.

I mean they could have showed her waking up in the middle of the night to glass breaking. Retrieves gun from under bed and confronts burglar as they enter her bedroom. You literally have dozen of different scenarios. However this one was probably the easiest to film, no blood shed and some humor also in it. The probably didn't want to show the scenario of the lady retreating into her bedroom with children and then blasting away at the intruder as they break down the bedroom door.

 

[RampantAndroid]

I'm anti-gun-control but that ad was the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time for so many reasons I could probably not even list them all.

It's fodder for left-wingers who want to show that gun ownerrs are possessed by unrealistic fantasies about what their weapons can do.

Would you rather them show the woman shooting the guy in the head? Or an unsecured firearm?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Give me a break. Are you actually defending that piece of idiocy?

Guy parks right in front of the place he's going to break into. Then he knocks on the door? Why? Then, that not being good enough, he knocks on the door again! Then, for no apparent reason, he waits and waits before breaking in.

And then.. passes out? Really? I mean, why stop there? Maybe the attacker should have fallen to his knees, apologized profusely, and promised to go to the nearest church and become a monk?

I noticed that the layout of the apartment requires passing very close to the front door to get between the living room and bedroom. Here's how it most likely plays out in the real world:

1. Bad guy breaks down front door.
2. Bad stuff happens to girl because her gun is not with her, but rather locked in a safe under her bed in a different room she can't get to.

Or it could have turned out like:

Bad guy breaks down front door.
Girl tries to go for the gun but is caught
bad guy punches her twice in the face, breaking her nose and knocking out a few of her teeth.
She's dazed and making a horrible wheezing sound, blood is pouring down her face and down her throat, choking her.
He begins to strip her clothes off while making disgusting comments about his intentions.
She waits until he is distracted by his lust and suddenly puts up a strong fight, kicking and clawing at his face.
He responds by continuing to smash his fist into her head. Her face is a ruined mess by now, but one of her fingers finds his left socket and digs in.
He roars and clutches his face, at the same time she kicks out with both legs and gets free.
She finally opens her gun safe and turns her gun on the assailant.
He is still on his knees, a mixture of blood and what could only be the jellied contents of his left eye streaming between his fingers.
She put a round between his index and middle finger, directly into the recently vacated eye socket.
The hollow point bullet goes through his brain and blows a fist sized hole in the back of his skull, carrying a considerable amount of the contents of his skull with it.

The girl requires multiple reconstructive surgeries, but never fully regains her former beauty. All of her future relationships are plagued by intimacy issues borne of her near raping. She requires therapy for the rest of her life.


Yep. They could have gone for absolute realism I suppose...maybe a bit much for a commercial though.

 

[Jeeebus]

Yep. They could have gone for absolute realism I suppose...maybe a bit much for a commercial though.

Real life makes for excellent tv. Hell, the scenario you describe is pretty much what happened to a woman last year in my city. Guy strolls in, she's with her 1 year old, guy decides to beat, stab, rape, sodomize her. Good times! I suppose that some of the retards in this thread would prefer that Glock made a commercial of her bloodied face, curled up in a corner of the house with a baby screaming in the background, with a 'now's the right time to buy Glock!'

Real life sucks, people. It's not pretty.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0120213_1_coral-springs-police-kirkland-woman

 

[Zargon]

This was a home invasion. Knocking and then barging in/blitzing the homeowner when they open the door is a common tactic in such crimes TMK. Ever wonder why most hotels have a chain lock?

this


they often knock to see if you have dogs or if you even notice


very common tactic, I had the knocking thing happen a couple times last year

luckily I know my local PD well from working for the both the city and the 911 center in the past, had a friend on duty swing over and he explained what was probably going on

 

[irishScott]

Give me a break. Are you actually defending that piece of idiocy?

Guy parks right in front of the place he's going to break into. Then he knocks on the door? Why? Then, that not being good enough, he knocks on the door again! Then, for no apparent reason, he waits and waits before breaking in.

And then.. passes out? Really? I mean, why stop there? Maybe the attacker should have fallen to his knees, apologized profusely, and promised to go to the nearest church and become a monk?

I noticed that the layout of the apartment requires passing very close to the front door to get between the living room and bedroom. Here's how it most likely plays out in the real world:

1. Bad guy breaks down front door.
2. Bad stuff happens to girl because her gun is not with her, but rather locked in a safe under her bed in a different room she can't get to.

I'm pretty sure it's a commercial, not a simulation. The fainting bit in particular was obviously over-the-top humor, likely put in because they didn't want a dark, depressing commercial or look like they're glorifying killing. Methinks you're taking this a bit too seriously.