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Confusednewbie1552

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Update (12/30/04): So, I took everything apart to rebuild my comp again and see if I might've done something wrong in the building process. The HSF was kinda loose although I have no idea if it was loose enough to speculate that the culprit of the Random Rebooting problem was the HSF, although this would explain why it would restart when I would hit my comp (The HSF kinda loosing contact with the CPU causing the CPU to do an automatic restart) although the CPU and HSF were firmly stuck together when I tried pulling out the hsf it actually pulled out the cpu with it (force wasn't required, but I might not know my own strength =P) (the lever thing was also in the locked position) anyway In the proccess I managed to loose a pin on my 3200+, see my other post: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...8247&enterthread=y . If you want the details on how it happened feel free to PM me, although I'm sure you don't care :) Anyway that's it for today and I'll keep you guys updated on what happens.

Update (12/29/04): Ok so as you've noticed I haven't been posting in this thread for a while so expect to read a long update...

Ok so I decided maybe it was my PSU, so I only had the neccesities on: Video Card, HD, and MB. And what'cha you know, it past memtest 86 for several hours! Anyway after some investigating I found out the root of this problem were the fans were all connected to one thing. During this time I am eaing yummy choclate and fiddling around with screws. That day I could've sworn I lost a screw and a bit of chocolate. So anyway soon my computer has the same problem again, although less sevre. This continues for about two weeks. Now just a couple hours ago I found some melted chocolate on my GeForce 6800 GT. I managed to get rid of all the chocolate, but it still restarted. So I tried putting in a Nvidia TNT 2. It still restarts, then I find a little screw on the bottom of the case, it was no where near the motherboard for a shot to happen, but you never know... Anyway so far I'm still running the TNT 2 and it's getting late. It hasn't restarted yet, but this card is so old it can't run any of my games so i'm going to try metest and possibly even finding my GeForce 2 MX400 and seeing what it can do. I am slo going to see if the 6800 GT works tommorow. Before I leave, just 10 minutes or so before I began writing this post I was about to go get a drink, I scooted out of my chair and my chair accidently bonked my computer and my comp restarted again so there's more to this puzzle? A new loose part? I have the whole day off tommrow and I intend to rebuild my computer again checking for anything loose or anything. And the HSF is looking a bit suspicious... So anyway I ask for your thoughts and help on this problem and prepare to see major updates throughout tommorow...

P.S. There's a new problem possibly linked to this, but I will get into detail with that tommorow..
I'm experiencing a few problems:

1: Random reboots

2: The front speaker port doesn't work =(

3: It just kinda seems slower than it should be. I am guessing this is Norton's fault and the fact that I haven't done a defragment and any tweaks. Or is it something else? What are some tweaks I should do?

4: This is more of a question than a problem, but does the HIGH MAT burning program you can get from windows update work well? Or does it make any coasters?
System Specs:

Cpu: AMD Athlon 64 3200+

Mobo: Asus K8N-E Deluxe

VGA: Geforce 6800 GT

Keyboard/Mosue: Logitech MX Duo

Case: Cooler Master Praetorian

PSU: Enermax Noisetaker 470 Watts

HD: Western Digtal Raptor 74 GB

Speakers: Logitech Z-640

Sound Card: Audigy 2 ZS (normal)

Ram: 2 512 MB sticks of Corsair Value Select 2.5 CAS for a total of 1 GB

OS: Windows XP Home Edition w/ SP2
 
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It would help if you posted your full system specs including Power Supply.

#3 I think you nailed this one.

#4 A lot of boards don't support both rear and front at the same time. If yours does, better check the connectors for proper hook-up.

#5 Have you installed all the drivers? Checked Device Manager for any problems?
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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For #5:

Well this is what happened. I was installing the driver for the nvidia chipset and then asked me if I wanted to nstall the firewall driver (Nvidia's built iin firewall thing) then it said like it's missing a file or something and it said it was unable to finsih it. After that it seemed to be a bit slower. I mean the computer is still extremely fast, just not as fast as it was first. Yes I have all the drivers installed.


Edit: I just wrote down my system specs
 
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Frew

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Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
For #5:

Well this is what happened. I was installing the driver for the nvidia chipset and then asked me if I wanted to nstall the firewall driver (Nvidia's built iin firewall thing) then it said like it's missing a file or something and it said it was unable to finsih it. After that it seemed to be a bit slower. I mean the computer is still extremely fast, just not as fast as it was first. Yes I have all the drivers installed.


Edit: I just wrote down my system specs
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I had same problem. I with the Nvidia Firewall thing. It wouldnt let me install it since I hadn't installed java. When i finally did get it installed It would cause my webpages to load only half-way and stop loading untill i refreshed it. So i unstalled it and internet works fine.
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Ok so I'll unsitall the firewall thing. But can anyoone tell me what to do about Random rebooting? That's the problem I really need to solve.
 
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#4

I had this problem with my MSI K8N neo platinum, maybe my solution will help you. My board has headers for front audio ports. If you are not going to use front audio ports and want to use the ones on the i/o panel, I had to put a 2 jumpers on the headers on the MB. Maybe chek your manual if your board has these headers?

#1

for the random reboots, I would check all your temps and voltages. Also make sure you dont have any standoffs in your case that are being unused and shorting something on the bottom of the motherboard.

The only time I've used XP home is on new computers from work before we reformat them, maybe it's jsut a mental thing but I feel like XP Pro is faster.

I hate the new AIM too.
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Ok some new problems have just occured, also I will tell you guys my temps later:

New Problems:

1: I can't go on the internet, the ethernet cable isn't messed up cause I tried it on a different compouter, the cable modem and router are working, and everyone else has internet except me. My Ip address is like 0.00.00 or something like that and that's not what it should be.

2: Num lock doesn't turn on at startup

3: Random rebooting occurs more often when I am running Spybot Search and Destroy/ Adaware Se

4: On startup it asks me to press F4 to install raid utility. I don't want raid, how can I tell it to shut up?

5: Windows security center (for SP2) saysmy computer might be at risk because I have no firewall. But I have sygate personal firewall. So I click reccomenedations and click I will monitormy own firewall. But next time at startup I have to do this again. How can I make it so it doesn't keep asking me every startup?

Theese are all the new problems for now, also keep in mind I still need help with the prblems up there.
 
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Frew

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Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
Ok some new problems have just occured, also I will tell you guys my temps later:

New Problems:

1: I can't go on the internet, the ethernet cable isn't messed up cause I tried it on a different compouter, the cable modem and router are working, and everyone else has internet except me. My Ip address is like 0.00.00 or something like that and that's not what it should be.

2: Num lock doesn't turn on at startup

3: Random rebooting occurs more often when I am running Spybot Search and Destroy/ Adaware Se

4: On startup it asks me to press F4 to install raid utility. I don't want raid, how can I tell it to shut up?

5: Windows security center (for SP2) saysmy computer might be at risk because I have no firewall. But I have sygate personal firewall. So I click reccomenedations and click I will monitormy own firewall. But next time at startup I have to do this again. How can I make it so it doesn't keep asking me every startup?

Theese are all the new problems for now, also keep in mind I still need help with the prblems up there.
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#5. Right click the task bar. Then click properties. Then customize on the first page. Set the windows secruity thing to always hide.
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Ok so right now there's two problems that I really need to fix:

1: Rand rebooting

2: COmputer can't go on the internet. PLz help
 
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Steven the Leech

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2: COmputer can't go on the internet. PLz help


Sounds like you are on a cable/esl router network? If so reboot router and modem, reboot computer. Go to run and type in ipconfig /release and hit enter then type in ipconfig /renew. The reboot pc. Should be on the internet after that. If not make sure u have drivers installed for NIC [actually check that first, before doing anything else}.
 
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The VAST majority of my internet connection problems are solved by simply: rebooting the modem, then rebooting the router, then rebooting the computer.

GL!
 
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OSUBeaver

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make sure your nic is set to DHCP, because even if its not getting an ip from the router, if a nic is set to dhcp, windows will put it on a 169.x.x.x network

For the raid thing, it is just the setup menu for the raid controller, it's not asking you to set one up for the first time, its just like a message saying press del to enter bios
 
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Confusednewbie1552

one of the problems with building a cutting edge system as your first custom built computer, is time.. let me explain.

when your building your first system, you don't have the luxury of being able to swap out every component. so your random rebooting could just be a wierd conflict between the exact configuration your currently running.. and may be fixed by a future bios, firmware or driver release.

that is why for your first custom build, i'd never recommend going cutting edge, and instead sticking with proven solutions, that way.. the community already has the answers your going to need.

by trying to build a brand new cutting edge system, you're going to be working with components most of us haven't had opportunity to yet, and thus can't offer any personal experience with. we can only give general guidelines, which may or may not apply to your situation.

as long as you follow the general guidlines we lay out, you shouldn't need to worry to much.

- One thing i'm wondering, is if you ran a through BURN IN of your system?

http://www.passmark.com (BurnInTest)
http://www.futuremark.com (3DMark)
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/ (SiSoft)
http://www.p4u.biz/files/cpub4gi.zip (CPU Burn)
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ (Motherboard Monitor)
http://www.7volts.com (frontpage has a graphic that can be used to stress test your system)
also, make sure you have Motherboard monitor running while you run any benchmarks and make sure you keep an eye on temps, cpu should not go over 155F under any circumstances..
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Originally posted by: Steven the Leech
2: COmputer can't go on the internet. PLz help


Sounds like you are on a cable/esl router network? If so reboot router and modem, reboot computer. Go to run and type in ipconfig /release and hit enter then type in ipconfig /renew. The reboot pc. Should be on the internet after that. If not make sure u have drivers installed for NIC [actually check that first, before doing anything else}.
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When I go to run and type in ipconfig/release it says Windos can't find ipconfig/release make sure you spelled it right. Also about random rebooting a freind said it could be faulty RAM, can anyone shed some light on that?
 
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to set your nic to DHCP

Control panel --> Network Connections --> right click your NIC, select properties --> click internet protocol(TCP/IP) --> click properties ---> and make sure obtain an IP address automatically is selected.

DHCP is when you router is in charge of giving each computer an IP. DHCP has to be enabled on the router and all comuters connected to it. If DHCP isn't enabled on the router, you have 2 options.

1. Set the router to dhcp and all computers connected to it
2. Find the ip the router is on, i.e. 192.168.0.1, and set the computers on the same subnet, i.e, 192.168.0.100, 192.168.0.101, and so on.

also when doing the ipconfig command, go to run --> then type cmd, on the command line type ipconfig /release (with a space) and then ipconfig /renew. What this command is doing is, if on DHCP, dropping the IP on the nic, then asking the router(DHCP server) for a new IP.

For your ram, try changing the timings on the RAM. This can be found in the bios, usually under some type of advanced menu. change the 2.5 to 3. and the 3's to 4. Obviously this is not optimal, but if your rebooting stops, then you are closer to finding the problem.

Not to be mean or rude, but it seems like you are pretty new to computer building? or maybe just networking? But seeing that you are running a lot of high-end equipment, you might try to find a friend who has experience building newer, i.e DDR, SATA, RAID, A64, to help you put this system together from scratch again. Sometime by taking everything apart, then putting it back together and installing a fresh copy of windows fixes dumb problems.
 
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