Some people are just assholes

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chrisms

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This is politics. It isn't a feel-good tea party. The decisions the president makes result in life for some and death for others, and to think that someone put in that spot should be afforded the same sympathies as the average human being is ridiculous. When you take the job of president you become an object. I say this because you make such long-lasting choices which affect so many people that inevitably you're going to end up f-ing up millions of lives.

Ronald Reagan took that job and made decisions to bomb certain countries which some say resulted in senseless innocent deaths (those people who died were just as human as Reagan), and those decisions resulted in a change of course for an entire nation. No offense but to think that people should not be happy when a person who they think ruined their great nation dies is foolish.

I am extremely happy that Richard Nixon is dead. I wish it had been a longer and more painful death, to be honest. He killed thousands of people with his choices, and screwed over millions of Americans. Because I feel this way about him I don't get angry about those who feel the same about Reagan, because we all view history differently.

And for the record I don't know enough about Reagan to judge him.. it may sound like I hate him in the second paragraph but I was only showing the view of these people.
 

Infohawk

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Am I the only one who suspects this board's neocons are desperate to see someone on this board lash out at Reagan so they can be outraged about it? It seems like the original poster went the lengths of getting it from another site just to get a reaction here. That is sort of desperate. Some people have a lot of pent up outrage they want to dump on average liberals.
 

slurmsmackenzie

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"get out of her, oh babylon the great"

money makes the world go round. the nra, oil, major multinational corporations have their hands so deep in the american mess all the while our "great leaders" dip their hands deeper into corporate pockets. i could run for prez. (except for the fact that i'm not thirty five) no one will vote for me, though. not just because i'm grossly incompetant. that, sadly, won't even come up. no one will even hear of me because i lack the BILLIONS of dollars it takes to run a presidency campaign. maybe a late night/early morning spot on public access. maybe after the old people workout show is over.
 

grrl

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I don't imagine I could gloat over anyone's death, but Reagan's death left me completely unmoved. Maybe because I lived through all 8 years of his presidency.
 

Moonbeam

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A lot of people took great delight seeing Saddam dragged from his hole. We call Al Quaeda cowards and terrorists. Iranians burn Uncle Sam in effigy. Republicans refer to Clinton as a scum ball. There are two issues in this I think. One is the truth and the other how you react to your interpretation of it.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: alchemize
The folks cheering Reagan's death. Cuba. Libya. A large and growing segment of the Democrats.

Forward this to all your friends. It is important that we see the face off what this party has become.

Seriously, do you really think that all Democrats think this way about Reagan from this one person's opinion?
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
both parties suck. that's why the entire world hates america. accept for the bootlickers that feed from the "scraps". when i vote, i need two ballots. one to take a dump on..... and one to wipe my butt with.


Another satisfied American :)
 

nan0bug

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Am I the only one who suspects this board's neocons are desperate to see someone on this board lash out at Reagan so they can be outraged about it? It seems like the original poster went the lengths of getting it from another site just to get a reaction here. That is sort of desperate. Some people have a lot of pent up outrage they want to dump on average liberals.

I'll bite. *flamesuit on*

Reagan was a piece of sh!t president. Am I happy he's dead? No. Am I saddened by his death? Absolutely not. He was directly responsible for the deaths of a lot of innocent people. He gave terrorists what they wanted. He started a war on the very people he was elected to represent (the war on drugs, in case you're a complete moron). His 'peace through strength' policies were irresponsible and put the whole world at risk. "The bombing begins in five minutes" -- just think about that for a second. He ignored a growing HIV/AIDS epidemic instead of taking the initiative to do something about it early on.

The man was a criminal, a murderer, an inept leader and he took credit for all the good things he didn't do while blaming all his failings on others (or conveniently forgetting who was really responsible).

To top it all off, he was the leader of the most corrupt administration in American history. More corrupt than Nixon. See here. "Facts are stupid things" I guess. (yes, I'm aware that site is written by an extreme left-winger. However, ignore HIS rants and pay attention to the facts about his cronies at the top)

I'm not one to speak ill of the dead. Its never a good thing when anyone dies. However, lets not make the mistake of conveniently ignoring what Reagan's administration really accomplished just for the sake of not being rude.
 

Zebo

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The war on drugs is a farce, the jokes on you. Republicans could give two sh1ts about your health as evidenced by not wanting to spend a dime on working peoples healthcare but will spend a fortune on the drug war and prisons and selling arms to drug runners. What they do care about is delegitimizing the ?counter-culture? so they can deny education benefits if you have any drug conviction, deny you employment and the right to vote. It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.
 

alchemize

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Nice to see we are drawing a few of the flies that exist on this board. Somebody asked:

"do you really believe the large and growing segment part".

Yes, I do. It isn't the majority, yet. But it's big. A guess? 25% or bigger. It's the anyone but bush crowd. The one that through reason out the window. Tha anti-neocon? ;)

PS: infohawk:

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Am I the only one who suspects this board's neocons are desperate to see someone on this board lash out at Reagan so they can be outraged about it? It seems like the original poster went the lengths of getting it from another site just to get a reaction here. That is sort of desperate. Some people have a lot of pent up outrage they want to dump on average liberals.

Surely you see the irony in this thread of generalizations? ;)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Zebo
The war on drugs is a farce, the jokes on you. Republicans could give two sh1ts about your health as evidenced by not wanting to spend a dime on working peoples healthcare but will spend a fortune on the drug war and prisons and selling arms to drug runners. What they do care about is delegitimizing the ?counter-culture? so they can deny education benefits if you have any drug conviction, deny you employment and the right to vote. It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

Care to explain the DEA efforts under 8 years of your party?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Zebo
The war on drugs is a farce, the jokes on you. Republicans could give two sh1ts about your health as evidenced by not wanting to spend a dime on working peoples healthcare but will spend a fortune on the drug war and prisons and selling arms to drug runners. What they do care about is delegitimizing the ?counter-culture? so they can deny education benefits if you have any drug conviction, deny you employment and the right to vote. It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

Care to explain the DEA efforts under 8 years of your party?

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
A lot of people took great delight seeing Saddam dragged from his hole. We call Al Quaeda cowards and terrorists. Iranians burn Uncle Sam in effigy. Republicans refer to Clinton as a scum ball. There are two issues in this I think. One is the truth and the other how you react to your interpretation of it.

You're right, Moonbeam. Saddam deserved a nobel peace prize. Al Qaida are nothing but brave and misunderstood followers of their religion. The US just demonized them. Can we get your take on Stalin, Mao, and Hitler next please, and how the republicans smeared them also?
 

nan0bug

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

So I take it you don't listen to any music then?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

Do you drink?

That's because your a anti-freedom conformist plebe whos been programmed or intimidated to think this way by many years of propoganda. Marijuana isn?t nearly as bad for you as alcohol.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

Do you drink?

That's because your a anti-freedom conformist plebe whos been programmed or intimidated to think this way by many years of propoganda. Marijuana isn?t nearly as bad for you as alcohol.
LOL.. a little off topic but I remember when Bozack first started posting at AT he would show pics of him and his buds in school and in almost every single picture they all had beers in their hands

OK, now back to your flaming boys!:)
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

Do you drink?

That's because your a anti-freedom conformist plebe whos been programmed or intimidated to think this way by many years of propoganda. Marijuana isn?t nearly as bad for you as alcohol.
LOL.. a little off topic but I remember when Bozack first started posting at AT he would show pics of him and his buds in school and in almost every single picture they all had beers in their hands

OK, now back to your flaming boys!:)

Whoa sounds like a crimminal too. You bad boy Bozack I hope commit a felony and drive while underaging it with your pals. Who bought the drugs (aka alcohol)?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

Do you drink?

That's because your a anti-freedom conformist plebe whos been programmed or intimidated to think this way by many years of propoganda. Marijuana isn?t nearly as bad for you as alcohol.
LOL.. a little off topic but I remember when Bozack first started posting at AT he would show pics of him and his buds in school and in almost every single picture they all had beers in their hands

OK, now back to your flaming boys!:)

Whoa sounds like a crimminal too. You bad boy Bozack I hope commit a felony and drive while underaging it with your pals. Who bought the drugs (aka alcohol)?
My post wasn't meant to insult Bozack abd I woiuld appreciate it if you didn't use it to insult him either!
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Zebo

It's all about marginalizing the more free thinkers, libertarians and those who won't be intimidated by the corporate elite.

So drug users/abusers are free thinkers, libertarians and those who will not be intimidated by the corporate elite? silly me and I thought they were just human waste.

Do you drink?

That's because your a anti-freedom conformist plebe whos been programmed or intimidated to think this way by many years of propoganda. Marijuana isn?t nearly as bad for you as alcohol.
LOL.. a little off topic but I remember when Bozack first started posting at AT he would show pics of him and his buds in school and in almost every single picture they all had beers in their hands

OK, now back to your flaming boys!:)

Whoa sounds like a crimminal too. You bad boy Bozack I hope commit a felony and drive while underaging it with your pals. Who bought the drugs (aka alcohol)?
My post wasn't meant to insult Bozack abd I woiuld appreciate it if you didn't use it to insult him either!

Red when he's calling people "human wastes" I think an insult is warranted, dont you. Besides if they are "human wastes" for breaking the law and/or putting drugs in their system what does that make one who does the same.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Zebo
[Red when he's calling people "human wastes" I think an insult is warranted, dont you. Besides if they are "human wastes" for breaking the law and/or putting drugs in their system what does that make one who does the same.
Well if you were to every run across hard Core Junkies, Crack Heads and especially hard core Meth Users then you would understand what he means about "Human Wastes"
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
[Red when he's calling people "human wastes" I think an insult is warranted, dont you. Besides if they are "human wastes" for breaking the law and/or putting drugs in their system what does that make one who does the same.
Well if you were to every run across hard Core Junkies, Crack Heads and especially hard core Meth Users then you would understand what he means about "Human Wastes"

Talking more about sparking up a joint in the dorms or a commune someplace in Arcadia which is not what I'd call human wastage. But then I would'nt call anyone with a drug or alcohol problem that. We need to address why someone would be self destructive and fix it.
 

nan0bug

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
[Red when he's calling people "human wastes" I think an insult is warranted, dont you. Besides if they are "human wastes" for breaking the law and/or putting drugs in their system what does that make one who does the same.
Well if you were to every run across hard Core Junkies, Crack Heads and especially hard core Meth Users then you would understand what he means about "Human Wastes"

No, human waste would be people who are satisfied to go along with the status quo, work their stupid little job and go home to their stupid little house in their stupid suv and watch their stupid sitcoms and think that their boring lifestyle makes them somehow superior to people who like to actually live their lives, instead of spending it slaving for someone else, just so they can buy stupid meaningless sh!t and save enough to afford their mindless drone kids a higher indoctrination degree..

of course i have a feeling im talking about probabbly 90% of the people here. i feel sorry for you guys, seriously.