Some numbers on obesity.

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: Amused
The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Dieting is not the answer to this problem. If it were, the vast majority of dieters would not only be failing as they are now, but they also wouldn't be ending up fatter than when they started. Diets simply force the body to react as if it were starving, and it becomes much more efficient at storing fat in preparation for the next famine.

The key is more activity. The higher the intensity, frequency and duration (in that order), the better.

I beg to differ. Portion sizes have increased drastically and dramatically.

 

[vi edit]

I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.

I used to do that approach too, until I injured myself really bad and couldn't hardly walk without pain for a good three months 🙁 I kept eating like I used to when I was running 7 miles a day, and ended up putting on over 20 pounds in 6 months time.

Now that I can't put in the intensity of workouts that I used to be able to, I've HAD to cut back on my caloric consumption. It's really not that hard. You just have to be responsible. Depeding on what I'm eating, I can pretty much gorge myself without worrying about being hungry.

It's just much simpler for me to not eat that 250 calorie snicker bar than it is for me to go and run for 25 minutes to burn it off 🙂

 

[SnapIT]

It isn't just the calories, it isn't just fatty foods, if it was, type II diabetes would decrease...

People sit on their asses in their chairs all day long, drive the car home, then sits in the sofa until it's time to lay down... is it strange that they get fat?

The problem isn't so much overeating, it has more to do with laziness, people want to do things with the least effort possible, i am sure that if someone could arrange it so you didn't have to move your fingers to type (speech interpretation that works) it would be a great success, the less effort, the better?

But there is a problem with the foods to, highly processed foods, light products that are even worse are marketed as "healthier" while they really are not...

So get off your lazy ass, walk for at least an hour a day, go to the gym and work your body, cook your own meals and use less refined products and you will be fine..

The solution is so simple, and yet so many people find this very simple solution overwhelming, "no time" is the most frequent answer i get, well, guess what, you do not HAVE to watch tv every evening, it is possible to get up earlier, you can walk during your lunch hour, the possibilities are endless, but nah... "no time"...

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.

I used to do that approach too, until I injured myself really bad and couldn't hardly walk without pain for a good three months 🙁 I kept eating like I used to when I was running 7 miles a day, and ended up putting on over 20 pounds in 6 months time.

I know the feeling. I tend to gain weight when I'm not riding since I won't alter my eating habits right away. 😱

Now that I can't put in the intensity of workouts that I used to be able to, I've HAD to cut back on my caloric consumption. It's really not that hard. You just have to be responsible. Depeding on what I'm eating, I can pretty much gorge myself without worrying about being hungry.

This is true. I've been stuffing myself on veggies at lunch and adding a roasted chicken breast for protein. I can eat a huge meal this way and feel full the rest of the day without actually taking in a tremendous amount of calories.

It's just much simpler for me to not eat that 250 calorie snicker bar than it is for me to go and run for 25 minutes to burn it off 🙂

That's why I like cycling so much. I'll burn an average or 700 kcal per hour at my normal 16-18mph pace. This is roughly equal to three snickers bars or about 4 bottles of Bass Ale. 😀

 

[prodigy]

Originally posted by: stormbv
I wish they'd develope a way to transplant fat...it would really help us skinny guys out. I'm tired of pigging out all day, every day.

I agree.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

The problem isn't so much overeating, it has more to do with laziness, people want to do things with the least effort possible, i am sure that if someone could arrange it so you didn't have to move your fingers to type (speech interpretation that works) it would be a great success, the less effort, the better?

Because the problem couldn't possibly be a combination of overeating and inactivity.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It isn't just the calories, it isn't just fatty foods, if it was, type II diabetes would decrease...

People sit on their asses in their chairs all day long, drive the car home, then sits in the sofa until it's time to lay down... is it strange that they get fat?

The problem isn't so much overeating, it has more to do with laziness, people want to do things with the least effort possible, i am sure that if someone could arrange it so you didn't have to move your fingers to type (speech interpretation that works) it would be a great success, the less effort, the better?

But there is a problem with the foods to, highly processed foods, light products that are even worse are marketed as "healthier" while they really are not...

So get off your lazy ass, walk for at least an hour a day, go to the gym and work your body, cook your own meals and use less refined products and you will be fine..

The solution is so simple, and yet so many people find this very simple solution overwhelming, "no time" is the most frequent answer i get, well, guess what, you do not HAVE to watch tv every evening, it is possible to get up earlier, you can walk during your lunch hour, the possibilities are endless, but nah... "no time"...

The thing is, - people could work out in front of their television sets, - stationary bike, sit ups and like ... they just do not want to

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: SnapIT

The problem isn't so much overeating, it has more to do with laziness, people want to do things with the least effort possible, i am sure that if someone could arrange it so you didn't have to move your fingers to type (speech interpretation that works) it would be a great success, the less effort, the better?

Because the problem couldn't possibly be a combination of overeating and inactivity.

As you can see i said "isn't so much overeating"...

Overeating, what does it mean? ingesting more calories than you expend? i ingest 6000 calories a day and i am in great shape, if a couch potato would do the same he would be VERY obese...

Overeating is simply eating too much compared to how much you excersise, and if i were to ask you which is better, getting more excersise or eating less, what would you answer?

Do you see my point?

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

Originally posted by: SnapIT
It isn't just the calories, it isn't just fatty foods, if it was, type II diabetes would decrease...

People sit on their asses in their chairs all day long, drive the car home, then sits in the sofa until it's time to lay down... is it strange that they get fat?

The problem isn't so much overeating, it has more to do with laziness, people want to do things with the least effort possible, i am sure that if someone could arrange it so you didn't have to move your fingers to type (speech interpretation that works) it would be a great success, the less effort, the better?

But there is a problem with the foods to, highly processed foods, light products that are even worse are marketed as "healthier" while they really are not...

So get off your lazy ass, walk for at least an hour a day, go to the gym and work your body, cook your own meals and use less refined products and you will be fine..

The solution is so simple, and yet so many people find this very simple solution overwhelming, "no time" is the most frequent answer i get, well, guess what, you do not HAVE to watch tv every evening, it is possible to get up earlier, you can walk during your lunch hour, the possibilities are endless, but nah... "no time"...

The thing is, - people could work out in front of their television sets, - stationary bike, sit ups and like ... they just do not want to

Working out in the comfort of your own home? it works for VERY few people, if you do not have a specific time when you go off to the gym, chances are that you will not train, if you do not have a time when you are supposed to go for a walk outside of your own house, chances are you will think "later" and later then becomes never...

How many home gyms are there out there that are never used? LOTS...

What does work? well, for some very well diciplined people, home gyms do work, for MOST people, a gym membership and a training partner is what works...

 

[StageLeft]

I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.

I'm the opposite of this! As vi_edit said you can have a snickers and run for 25 min or do neither. I do get in 30 min run a few times a week but the majority of my weight control comes from controlling food intake. If my maintenance is around 2500 calories a day and I enjoy 3500 (which I do!), that's a freaking lot of cardio to let me eat what I want 🙁

What does work? well, for some very well diciplined people, home gyms do work, for MOST people, a gym membership and a training partner is what works...

Hehe actually for MOST people what works is comments like "Man I really need to lose this weight one of these days" and off to lunch at the Chinese buffet! Activity levels are crappy and if everybody would do more weight wouldn't be an issue but cutting calories is also a quick way to do it since when it all comes down to it weight gain/loss = calories in - calories out. You can decrease the calories in (less food) or increase the calories out (more excercise).

Some people as evidenced in this thread get best management from excercise (fausto) and others prefer to watch their calories because they don't like/can't do as much exercise as would be needed. Most combine a bit of both but it depends on the person as to which they prefer: cutting calories drastically or increasing excercise drastically.

Weight control is very easy for 99% of the population at least technically speaking. If you have the will you'll find the way. Most people just don't have the will though.

 

[Fausto]

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I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.
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I'm the opposite of this! As vi_edit said you can have a snickers and run for 25 min or do neither. I do get in 30 min run a few times a week but the majority of my weight control comes from controlling food intake. If my maintenance is around 2500 calories a day and I enjoy 3500 (which I do!), that's a freaking lot of cardio to let me eat what I want

I commuted to work (1 hour total) and rode after work as well (another two hours). Needless to say, I had plenty of the spinach lasagne my wife made last night. 😀

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

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I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.
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I'm the opposite of this! As vi_edit said you can have a snickers and run for 25 min or do neither. I do get in 30 min run a few times a week but the majority of my weight control comes from controlling food intake. If my maintenance is around 2500 calories a day and I enjoy 3500 (which I do!), that's a freaking lot of cardio to let me eat what I want

I commuted to work (1 hour total) and rode after work as well (another two hours). Needless to say, I had plenty of the spinach lasagne my wife made last night. 😀

When I really used to work out (now it's just about an hour and a half total for a day each day), - five hours a day total or so, - I consumed about 10K in calories daily. Body fat was about 3-5%. I ate anything I wanted, in any quantities.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

Originally posted by: Amused
The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Dieting is not the answer to this problem. If it were, the vast majority of dieters would not only be failing as they are now, but they also wouldn't be ending up fatter than when they started. Diets simply force the body to react as if it were starving, and it becomes much more efficient at storing fat in preparation for the next famine.

The key is more activity. The higher the intensity, frequency and duration (in that order), the better.

I beg to differ. Portion sizes have increased drastically and dramatically.

You can beg and differ all you want. But the foods we are eating today are no different than what we ate 30 years ago. I know, I was there. Hell, my mother used to fry everything in bacon grease and serve us food until we were bursting... and none of us were anything close to fat. McDonalds sells the same Quarter Pounder I ate as a kid, and my brothers and I used to eat two large fries. We had chips, Twinkies, Ding Dongs, and candy in the house at all times, and drank non-diet sodas all day long.

The difference? You couldn't keep us in the house after school. We were swimming, ridding bikes, climbing the local hills, playing cops and robbers and running around like wild men. Even when we were teens, we were physically active.

The only REAL change has been people's activity levels. If anything, the foods we eat are healthier. The amount of fat and calories in a meal 30 years ago was far higher than it is today. Everyone cooked with lard, butter or grease. Hardly anyone watched calories or calories from fat back then.

Today, I eat a 3500+calorie diet, and because I exercise, I am in good shape. A couple years ago, I was growing quite a gut, but was only taking in less than 2000 calories a day and getting very little exercise. Exercise does not only burn calories while you do it. The increased metabolism and muscle mass burn calories all day long.

There was a time in which the only fat people were rich, because they could pay someone to do all their labor for them. Now all of us can avoid most physical activity in our daily lives... and we're getting fat because of it.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

Originally posted by: Fausto1

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I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.
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I'm the opposite of this! As vi_edit said you can have a snickers and run for 25 min or do neither. I do get in 30 min run a few times a week but the majority of my weight control comes from controlling food intake. If my maintenance is around 2500 calories a day and I enjoy 3500 (which I do!), that's a freaking lot of cardio to let me eat what I want

I commuted to work (1 hour total) and rode after work as well (another two hours). Needless to say, I had plenty of the spinach lasagne my wife made last night. 😀

When I really used to work out (now it's just about an hour and a half total for a day each day), - five hours a day total or so, - I consumed about 10K in calories daily. Body fat was about 3-5%. I ate anything I wanted, in any quantities.

10,000 per day? That's even more than your typical Tour de France competitor. What the hell were you doing? 😕

It is great tho, isn't it? During the summer I'll typically get in 250-350 miles per week in on the road bike. I literally eat as much of whatever looks good at the time. 😀

 

[vi edit]

What the hell do you eat to net you 10k in calories a day? :Q

Do you pound a quart of maple syrup down with every meal or something? I'd have trouble doing more than 5k or 6k calories in a day.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

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10,000 per day? That's even more than your typical Tour de France competitor. What the hell were you doing? 😕

It is great tho, isn't it? During the summer I'll typically get in 250-350 miles per week in on the road bike. I literally eat as much of whatever looks good at the time. 😀

I was heavily into sports back in the day, - I used to be a semi-pro swimmer, kickboxer and played center for my University basketball team (yeah, sounds kind of weird)

I would usually spend three or so hours in the gym with weights and two or so hours in the pool doing laps

And time spent on the court and sparring I did not count as real work out, since it was more fun than work

I averaged about four-five hours of sleep a day and would catch up on the week ends

with my current "normal" diet (vs. my youger days five-six course meals) and not-Guiness-book-worthy work outs I could never achieve the weight and form I had then

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

Originally posted by: Amused
The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Dieting is not the answer to this problem. If it were, the vast majority of dieters would not only be failing as they are now, but they also wouldn't be ending up fatter than when they started. Diets simply force the body to react as if it were starving, and it becomes much more efficient at storing fat in preparation for the next famine.

The key is more activity. The higher the intensity, frequency and duration (in that order), the better.

I beg to differ. Portion sizes have increased drastically and dramatically.

You can beg and differ all you want. But the foods we are eating today are no different than what we ate 30 years ago. I know, I was there. Hell, my mother used to fry everything in bacon grease and serve us food until we were bursting... and none of us were anything close to fat. McDonalds sells the same Quarter Pounder I ate as a kid, and my brothers and I used to eat two large fries. We had chips, Twinkies, Ding Dongs, and candy in the house at all times, and drank non-diet sodas all day long.

The difference? You couldn't keep us in the house after school. We were swimming, ridding bikes, climbing the local hills, playing cops and robbers and running around like wild men. Even when we were teens, we were physically active.

The only REAL change has been people's activity levels. If anything, the foods we eat are healthier. The amount of fat and calories in a meal 30 years ago was far higher than it is today. Everyone cooked with lard, butter or grease. Hardly anyone watched calories or calories from fat back then.

Today, I eat a 3500+calorie diet, and because I exercise, I am in good shape. A couple years ago, I was growing quite a gut, but was only taking in less than 2000 calories a day and getting very little exercise. Exercise does not only burn calories while you do it. The increased metabolism and muscle mass burn calories all day long.

There was a time in which the only fat people were rich, because they could pay someone to do all their labor for them. Now all of us can avoid most physical activity in our daily lives... and we're getting fat because of it.

Well, It is not my opinion, but a hard true fact, that portion sizes have increased drastically within last few decades.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
What the hell do you eat to net you 10k in calories a day? :Q

Do you pound a quart of maple syrup down with every meal or something? I'd have trouble doing more than 5k or 6k calories in a day.

Well, I am six feet four and a half. And I eat much. A LOT. I mean, - I never ever have ordered a six inch sandwich, - that would be just a joke for me. And two club footlongs with cheese and everything from Your friendly SubWay (I liked them and Blimpie long before the current hype) is about 2K in calories already.

 

[vi edit]

Well, I am six feet four and a half. And I eat much. A LOT. I mean, - I never ever have ordered a six inch sandwich, - that would be just a joke for me. And two club footlongs with cheese and everything from Your friendly SubWay (I liked them and Blimpie long before the current hype) is about 2K in calories already.

Heh. When I was running cross country in college, I was 6' and went about 155. I was probably consuming about 5000-6000 calories a day. At dinner I'd drink close to gallon of water and juices, and I'd eat like 4 cheeseburgers and a plate of fries...then hit the sundae bar for dessert. I was friends with a bunch of football players that were twice my size and I was eating more than them sometimes. They couldn't figure out where all the food was going 😀

When you do a pool workout in the mornings for 45 minutes, 45 minutes of lifting in the afternoon, and then 7-10 miles worth of running in the evenings you tend to burn some calories. 😛

 

[raptor13]

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: raptor13
This is really bad, I know, but I honestly am annoyed when I see fat people eating. It doesn't even matter what they're eating... it still irks me. All I can think is, "You're a frickin, whale. DO NOT EAT!!!"

I think I have a problem - I hate fat people.

Sounds like you're going to have a heart attack before they are 😀

I do enjoy reading the obesity threads though, so many different views. I always get a kick out of the make fun of them thinking that some have. Do you laugh at crack addicts or try to help them? I think my favorite part though is the bashing. How many people that bash them for whatever reason have to put forth little or no effort themselves to maintain their body? Seems like a good way to feel better about yourself with no work on your part.

Hey now, don't go jumping to conclusions! I'm only 20 right now and in the best shape of my life. At 6'1", 185lb., and about 5% body fat, I lift 5 or 6 times a week doing hardcore strength training and do some sort of cardio multiple times during the week as well, be it basketball, racquetball, or just good ol' distance running. I also eat like I'm never going to see food again. Like Fausto has been saying, it's so much more fun to exercise a bunch (especially since, in our cases, we really enjoy the exercise) and eat whatever you want in whatever quantity you want. Having two, three, or four ice cream cones in a day is nothing if you go grind out 6 sets of heavy squats, lunges, leg press, extensions, dead lift, curls, and calf raises.

I can't help it my metabolism runs faster than I can eat. 😀

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

Originally posted by: Fausto1

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I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well.
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I'm the opposite of this! As vi_edit said you can have a snickers and run for 25 min or do neither. I do get in 30 min run a few times a week but the majority of my weight control comes from controlling food intake. If my maintenance is around 2500 calories a day and I enjoy 3500 (which I do!), that's a freaking lot of cardio to let me eat what I want

I commuted to work (1 hour total) and rode after work as well (another two hours). Needless to say, I had plenty of the spinach lasagne my wife made last night. 😀

When I really used to work out (now it's just about an hour and a half total for a day each day), - five hours a day total or so, - I consumed about 10K in calories daily. Body fat was about 3-5%. I ate anything I wanted, in any quantities.

I would assume that you were a bodybuilding professional as having 3% bodyfat would require a GREAT deal of muscle if you were to stick at that point...

have you seen those marathon runners, the REAL skinny ones, guess their percentage... nope... closer to 8%...

What you have to get is that this is the percentage of fat considering bodyweight... more muscle, more weight, that is, gain muscle and you will reduce percentage without reducing the amount of fat...

3-5, working out 5 hours a day with a 3% bodyfat... i say that is BS!

 

[Fausto]

I would assume that you were a bodybuilding professional as having 3% bodyfat would require a GREAT deal of muscle if you were to stick at that point...

have you seen those marathon runners, the REAL skinny ones, guess their percentage... nope... closer to 8%...

What you have to get is that this is the percentage of fat considering bodyweight... more muscle, more weight, that is, gain muscle and you will reduce percentage without reducing the amount of fat...

3-5, working out 5 hours a day with a 3% bodyfat... i say that is BS!

I thought you swore off arguing on the internet? 😉

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: raptor13

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: raptor13
This is really bad, I know, but I honestly am annoyed when I see fat people eating. It doesn't even matter what they're eating... it still irks me. All I can think is, "You're a frickin, whale. DO NOT EAT!!!"

I think I have a problem - I hate fat people.

Sounds like you're going to have a heart attack before they are 😀

I do enjoy reading the obesity threads though, so many different views. I always get a kick out of the make fun of them thinking that some have. Do you laugh at crack addicts or try to help them? I think my favorite part though is the bashing. How many people that bash them for whatever reason have to put forth little or no effort themselves to maintain their body? Seems like a good way to feel better about yourself with no work on your part.

Hey now, don't go jumping to conclusions! I'm only 20 right now and in the best shape of my life. At 6'1", 185lb., and about 5% body fat, I lift 5 or 6 times a week doing hardcore strength training and do some sort of cardio multiple times during the week as well, be it basketball, racquetball, or just good ol' distance running. I also eat like I'm never going to see food again. Like Fausto has been saying, it's so much more fun to exercise a bunch (especially since, in our cases, we really enjoy the exercise) and eat whatever you want in whatever quantity you want. Having two, three, or four ice cream cones in a day is nothing if you go grind out 6 sets of heavy squats, lunges, leg press, extensions, dead lift, curls, and calf raises.

I can't help it my metabolism runs faster than I can eat. 😀

It doesn't, and one day you will realize that... your metabolism will eventually learn, and then, just a slight downturn will increase fat percentage... none are spared when the body is watching out for survival (or so it thinks)

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: raptor13

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: raptor13
This is really bad, I know, but I honestly am annoyed when I see fat people eating. It doesn't even matter what they're eating... it still irks me. All I can think is, "You're a frickin, whale. DO NOT EAT!!!"

I think I have a problem - I hate fat people.

Sounds like you're going to have a heart attack before they are 😀

I do enjoy reading the obesity threads though, so many different views. I always get a kick out of the make fun of them thinking that some have. Do you laugh at crack addicts or try to help them? I think my favorite part though is the bashing. How many people that bash them for whatever reason have to put forth little or no effort themselves to maintain their body? Seems like a good way to feel better about yourself with no work on your part.

Hey now, don't go jumping to conclusions! I'm only 20 right now and in the best shape of my life. At 6'1", 185lb., and about 5% body fat, I lift 5 or 6 times a week doing hardcore strength training and do some sort of cardio multiple times during the week as well, be it basketball, racquetball, or just good ol' distance running. I also eat like I'm never going to see food again. Like Fausto has been saying, it's so much more fun to exercise a bunch (especially since, in our cases, we really enjoy the exercise) and eat whatever you want in whatever quantity you want. Having two, three, or four ice cream cones in a day is nothing if you go grind out 6 sets of heavy squats, lunges, leg press, extensions, dead lift, curls, and calf raises.

I can't help it my metabolism runs faster than I can eat. 😀

It doesn't, and one day you will realize that... your metabolism will eventually learn, and then, just a slight downturn will increase fat percentage... none are spared when the body is watching out for survival (or so it thinks)

That downturn is right about age 30. Trust me on this one. I have to be much more careful these days than when I was in my 20s.

 

[SagaLore]

1. Soda
2. "Low Fat" snacks, but increase sugar to replace flavor
3. Fast Food
4. Buffets
5. Increased portions
6. Lower nutritional value in crops, increased apetite
7. Remote controls for everything
8. More entertaining shows on TV
9. GYM class no longer encouraged in schools
10. Higher use of birth control pills
11. ATOT