Some numbers on obesity.

[psianime]

I'll stop eatting burgers when im head.

-psianime

 

[ElFenix]

you know the worst part is that after years of obesity many people lose the ability to properly maintain their weight and so their body goes into starvaton mode

 

[drum]

<---- 21y/o; 5'9.5"; 125lbs plus i bust my hump at UPS 5 days a week. (UPS is coming out with a new logo btw...)

 

[ReiAyanami]

"you can do it with brown"

uh no thanks.... well atleast fedex dont make commercials yet

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: pyonir
Skoorb, why do you care so much about how others live their lives?

its is nurturing nature 😛

Exactly!

 

[KGB1]

I just personally think that food production is just out of whack. Look into the ingredients of most of the products in the stores. Most definitely have High Fructose corn syrup, phosphates, a lot of sodium, preservatives the list goes on.

The vitamin "enriched" foods are bull also. The vitamins made in labs are inert, it cannot be absorbed by the body.

I'd recommend a person take a daily Fiber tablet, or eat food with high content of fiber. Also eating organic foods might help.
You can blame McDonald's all you want... but its the person's own desicion to choose either the salad or Big Mac. And McDonalds isnt forcing it down your throat.
Here's an idea.. if you want McIddy's... get a friend to punch you in the stomach 🙂 (because the inflicted pain feels very similar to the the effects of a Big Mac about a half hour later 😱 )

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: psianime
I'll stop eatting burgers when im head.

-psianime

That makes sense. I'm sure performing fellatio with a mouth full of Fuddrucker's is pretty difficult. 😛

 

[iwearnosox]

I don't mean to be gross but when I see fat people my mind goes wondering. Have they seen their toes? How do they wipe, or do they bother? Is it possible to have sex or do you just sort of play with the rumples?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: yobarman
I did an entire research paper on this topic last quarter... it is true that the BMI scale is pretty ridiculous for measuring obesity, but the percentages have gone up over the years, and that's what matters. Here's a quote from my "A" research paper haha!

There are many theories about what has caused the obesity epidemic, but as a matter of fact many aspects come into play. For instance, food portions have gotten noticibly larger, specifically at fast food restaurants. Fast foods tend to be high in saturated fat, while being low in nutrients. The soft drinks often served with a meal are nothing more than a mixture of empty calories and sugar. ?A large fast food meal (double cheeseburger, french fries, soft drink, dessert) could contain 2200 calories, which, at 85 calories per mile, would require a full marathon to burn off (Ebbling).? That is a chilling thought knowing that the Food and Drug Administration insists that the average person eat only 2,000 calories a day. Not only are unhealthy food products available at any fast food restaurant, they are also being sold in schools. Low-funded schools sign contracts with large corporations for ?pouring? rights. While schools do make significant amounts of money, soda vending machines are placed in the hallways and fast food restuarants are set up in cafeterias for all too easy access for students. ?Some 30 percent of public high school cafeterias sell food from companies like Taco Bell, McDonald?s, Pizza Hut, and Domino?s Pizza.(Smolowe)?

Also, more Americans insist on getting more "VALUE" for their buck. This crock of crap has made portion sizes huge. You can get a small whatever for 2.19, but the XXXL size is only a quarter more! Hey America! Stop giving a crap about value! Buy the smaller meal, eat half your plate. You're wasting a little money but you're not going to be a fat ass!

A lot of factors go into America getting fatter, especially kids. Billions is spent on advertising aimed at kids, who are already fat because they spend 20 hours a week watching TV! With computers on the rise it's won't be a suprise to find kids who have NEVER SEEN THE SUN BEFORE!

It won't stop unless there's one collective effort. Parents have to step in and teach their kids how to eat right and excersice, and get them out of the house. Advertisers have to stop spending 1.1 billion a year trying to get kids to eat their Sugar flakes. Money has to be put back in Physcial education programs, which are usually the first to go in budget cuts. Unless something is done, Type 2 diabetes will rise and psycological disorders will rise from the stigma of being the "fat kid". A healthy lifestyle is the way to go, but American society fails to see it while it's belt continues to loosen because it's goddamn belly is hanging over it's pants!

I agree with you. I cursed my parents as a kid for feeding us the way they did (we did get fast food, chips and such on occasion.....but only on occasion). We were generally fed veggies, lean meats, lots of milk and juice, etc. Additionally, we really never played inside unless it was raining. There was a good 10-20 acres of woods not too far from my house with plenty of trails for BMX bikes, a creek to mess around in (and play hockey on in the winter 😀 ) and such. God knows all I wanted was Doritos and Atari at the time, but looking back I can see it for what it was....good parenting.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

people are just lazy

and the environment encourages it

 

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I agree with you. I cursed my parents as a kid for feeding us the way they did (we did get fast food, chips and such on occasion.....but only on occasion). We were generally fed veggies, lean meats, lots of milk and juice, etc. Additionally, we really never played inside unless it was raining. There was a good 10-20 acres of woods not too far from my house with plenty of trails for BMX bikes, a creek to mess around in (and play hockey on in the winter ) and such. God knows all I wanted was Doritos and Atari at the time, but looking back I can see it for what it was....good parenting.

My mother fed us basically all the coke we could drink and my brothers and I would frequently binge on parent-endorsed junk food and bags of cookies. It's a miracle I'm not a fat ass but I've had to reject almost everything I did for eating when I was growing up and when I have kids their snacks are going to be carrots and lemon water! Mrsskoorb has never had to fight the sweet tooth I do because she wasn't allowed to have such junk when she grew up.

Some friends of ours with 3 kids (7,4,1) - the 4 year old for most lunches eats kraft singles and weiners and chicken fingers (seriously) and they recently started feeding the 1 year old cheetos for a snack (because the 1 year old saw the 4 year old eating some and wanted it). The 4 year old is, needless to say, quite overweight. The parents don't realize what they're doing to the kid. If he's 14 and 50 pounds overweight he'll likely never control it throughout his life.

 

[Isla]

I was fortunate enough to be raised by a health and nutrition nut as well. I had to eat wheat germ and play organized sports... Mom was a softball coach, jogger, etc. I was annoyed at the time but now I am grateful.

I have to really fight the media for my kid's minds concerning health. Marketing can be very powerful. But, so can good parenting. 🙂

Here's a good link for health and nutrition... Dr Weil Whole foods (as opposed to processed) are the best way to go.

Just remember... skinny people who drink heavily, smoke, do drugs (including diet pills), etc. are not healthier just because they are skinny. In fact, unhealthy people who are thin often at risk of obesity later in life because they haven't learned good health habits. Diet pills and diet Coke might work for a while, but in the long run, the body breaks down. Health and fitness is more than just what size you are.

<---off to take her kids to the park... it's Spring Break!

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

the environment and general culture are pretty bad here, concerning nutrition

I have to admit, - even i degraded, - for example, I no longer have a habbit of always washing my hands before eating

mostly I think though that it is all due to the fact that people do not move, - walk, - that much in the US, vs. most of other parts of the world, and the fact that eating healthy is so much more expensice than eating fast foods

also, the "on the run" lifestyle does not help

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
the environment and general culture are pretty bad here, concerning nutrition

I have to admit, - even i degraded, - for example, I no longer have a habbit of always washing my hands before eating

mostly I think though that it is all due to the fact that people do not move, - walk, - that much in the US, vs. most of other parts of the world, and the fact that eating healthy is so much more expensice than eating fast foods

also, the "on the run" lifestyle does not help

It's not really more expensive, just less convenient IMO. You have to go a bit out of your way to get something reasonably healthy (and you pass 50 fast-food places on your way there). Most people just cave and grab the nearest, quickest thing.

 

[yobarman]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I agree with you. I cursed my parents as a kid for feeding us the way they did (we did get fast food, chips and such on occasion.....but only on occasion). We were generally fed veggies, lean meats, lots of milk and juice, etc. Additionally, we really never played inside unless it was raining. There was a good 10-20 acres of woods not too far from my house with plenty of trails for BMX bikes, a creek to mess around in (and play hockey on in the winter ) and such. God knows all I wanted was Doritos and Atari at the time, but looking back I can see it for what it was....good parenting.

My mother fed us basically all the coke we could drink and my brothers and I would frequently binge on parent-endorsed junk food and bags of cookies. It's a miracle I'm not a fat ass but I've had to reject almost everything I did for eating when I was growing up and when I have kids their snacks are going to be carrots and lemon water! Mrsskoorb has never had to fight the sweet tooth I do because she wasn't allowed to have such junk when she grew up.

Some friends of ours with 3 kids (7,4,1) - the 4 year old for most lunches eats kraft singles and weiners and chicken fingers (seriously) and they recently started feeding the 1 year old cheetos for a snack (because the 1 year old saw the 4 year old eating some and wanted it). The 4 year old is, needless to say, quite overweight. The parents don't realize what they're doing to the kid. If he's 14 and 50 pounds overweight he'll likely never control it throughout his life.

I was also raised in a non junk food household. My mom never bought junkfood, and going to McDonalds was a treat every once in a while. She'd make us go outside all the time and call us fat asses if we didn't go outside. Haha it didn't work too well on me because i turned out fat, but I am working on it by hitting the gym and eating right. But i did learn a lot of lessons and now I know if i have kids they'll never see a cheeseburger until they get their own house

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

... mostly I think though that it is all due to the fact that people do not move, - walk, - that much in the US, vs. most of other parts of the world, and the fact that eating healthy is so much more expensice than eating fast foods

also, the "on the run" lifestyle does not help

It's not really more expensive, just less convenient IMO. You have to go a bit out of your way to get something reasonably healthy (and you pass 50 fast-food places on your way there). Most people just cave and grab the nearest, quickest thing.[/quote]

Well, a meal at SubWay is usually about double of a meal at McD's ... and, yes, it is much less convenient

Funny thing, - friends of mine, a couple from Ukraine, - they eat almost no vegetables and fruits (as in, - none at all, I'm serious ... well, besides potatoes), - pretty much resort to meat and bread and potatoes and ice cream and sweets ... they just recently joned a gym, they are both almost thirty, - and they are not overweight at all

 

[Amused]

The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Dieting is not the answer to this problem. If it were, the vast majority of dieters would not only be failing as they are now, but they also wouldn't be ending up fatter than when they started. Diets simply force the body to react as if it were starving, and it becomes much more efficient at storing fat in preparation for the next famine.

The key is more activity. The higher the intensity, frequency and duration (in that order), the better.

 

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Funny thing, - friends of mine, a couple from Ukraine, - they eat almost no vegetables and fruits (as in, - none at all, I'm serious ... well, besides potatoes), - pretty much resort to meat and bread and potatoes and ice cream and sweets ... they just recently joned a gym, they are both almost thirty, - and they are not overweight at all

Yeah but they aren't healthy either 🙂

Eating healthy can be more expensive, but then if you take something like a meal replacement bar or a shake those cost no more than a couple of bucks each - cheaper than mcdonalds. And yes it won't fill you up nearly as much but then the mcds has too many calories anyway!

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon

... mostly I think though that it is all due to the fact that people do not move, - walk, - that much in the US, vs. most of other parts of the world, and the fact that eating healthy is so much more expensice than eating fast foods

also, the "on the run" lifestyle does not help

It's not really more expensive, just less convenient IMO. You have to go a bit out of your way to get something reasonably healthy (and you pass 50 fast-food places on your way there). Most people just cave and grab the nearest, quickest thing.

Well, a meal at SubWay is usually about double of a meal at McD's ... and, yes, it is much less convenient

Funny thing, - friends of mine, a couple from Ukraine, - they eat almost no vegetables and fruits (as in, - none at all, I'm serious ... well, besides potatoes), - pretty much resort to meat and bread and potatoes and ice cream and sweets ... they just recently joned a gym, they are both almost thirty, - and they are not overweight at all[/quote]
Well, it all really comes down to how much you shovel in your face, regardless of what that may be. A McD's lunch might total almost 1,000 calories, but if you don't gorge yourself the rest of the day as well and maybe get in some exercise you won't end up fat. It's the people who have three fat-bomb meals per day + plenty of soda/beer/chips for snacks the rest of the time that end up overweight. I eat a LOT, but I don't eat junk for the most part and I get a lot of exercise....hence, I'm not fat.

 

[dr wily]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
"you can do it with brown"

uh no thanks.... well atleast fedex dont make commercials yet

Uhh except those FEDEX commercials with the daily show guys that are on ALL THE TIME!! 😛

 

[vi edit]

The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Yes and no. Baring some sort of medical problems, most people won't turn into the goodyear blimp eating a fairly well rounded 1800-2000 calories a day. It just takes some self control. PUT THE COOKIES DOWN!

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

The reason we have an obesity problem is exemplified by the most common response in this thread. People blame foods and eating habits when neither has changed much in 30 years, while the rate of obesity has skyrocketed.

What HAS changed in the last 30 or so years? Our activity levels. Obesity has risen with cable TV, video games and the Internet. The more our leisure activities move indoors and become less physically demanding, the fatter we get.

Yes and no. Baring some sort of medical problems, most people won't turn into the goodyear blimp eating a fairly well rounded 1800-2000 calories a day. It just takes some self control. PUT THE COOKIES DOWN!

I like the opposite approach. Eat whatever you like that's reasonably healthy, have a few beers if you like, but get some damn exercise! I hate thinking about calories or being hungry, so I just put in a lot of saddle time on the bike and all is well. 🙂

 

[alm99]

Originally posted by: yobarman

There are many theories about what has caused the obesity epidemic, but as a matter of fact many aspects come into play.

You should have received an E for this statement or the other variation of it,

Due to the fact that.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

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Well, it all really comes down to how much you shovel in your face, regardless of what that may be. A McD's lunch might total almost 1,000 calories, but if you don't gorge yourself the rest of the day as well and maybe get in some exercise you won't end up fat. It's the people who have three fat-bomb meals per day + plenty of soda/beer/chips for snacks the rest of the time that end up overweight. I eat a LOT, but I don't eat junk for the most part and I get a lot of exercise....hence, I'm not fat.

I agree on the portion size, but as far as McD's and other places, - it is not even about the calories and fat percentage, - it is just plain bad cheap mass, designed to taste and look like food, but is unhealthy, no matter how lean

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Funny thing, - friends of mine, a couple from Ukraine, - they eat almost no vegetables and fruits (as in, - none at all, I'm serious ... well, besides potatoes), - pretty much resort to meat and bread and potatoes and ice cream and sweets ... they just recently joned a gym, they are both almost thirty, - and they are not overweight at all

Yeah but they aren't healthy either 🙂

Eating healthy can be more expensive, but then if you take something like a meal replacement bar or a shake those cost no more than a couple of bucks each - cheaper than mcdonalds. And yes it won't fill you up nearly as much but then the mcds has too many calories anyway!

About feeling filled up, - most times it is thirst, not hunger. Drink before You eat!